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Gorgy
Chile65 Posts
im sorry for the "strong" language but he didnt commentate much on idras play or strat, he just went "idra will win" mode and just keep on telling how xiaozl ( ? ) had lost. i think the most technical thing he said was "idra has 7 rax" or sth. maybe its the korean air or homesickness but he tends to overcheer foreigners that are in korea (the other one being ret) | ||
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Polygamy
Austria1114 Posts
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[X]Ken_D
United States4653 Posts
On January 31 2010 07:06 7mk wrote: that is very true of course but personally I feel that tasteless isnt as great a caster as he used to be, and I think he hasnt been for awhile. Recently when I rewatched Jaedong vs Flash in the GOM finals on motbobs stream I was like holy shit I had completely forgotten how amazing he was at casting, the games were so bad and he still managed to make them so freaking exciting, his enthusiasm was just so huge, shouting at everything that happened  . Maybe he's just better at solo commentating or sth.Of course he is still very good and one of the best there are but imho he used to be better because he used to be more excited. I agree. After Tasteless joined up with SuperDaniel in GOM, the quality of his cast went down from there. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On January 31 2010 07:08 purgerinho wrote: 5am > excitement/enthusiasm Yeah that is understandable but my post was more of a general statement, not just talking about the games tonight. For example Tasteless solo casting at gom >>> Casting with Daniel Lee, although I used to like Daniel Lee a lot. | ||
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
On January 31 2010 07:09 Gorgy wrote: im sorry for the "strong" language but he didnt commentate much on idras play or strat, he just went "idra will win" mode and just keep on telling how xiaozl ( ? ) had lost. i think the most technical thing he said was "idra has 7 rax" or sth. maybe its the korean air or homesickness but he tends to overcheer foreigners that are in korea (the other one being ret) By the time they were calling the game for Idra, he'd long since won. Artosis does favour the guys that have been to korea admittedly, but I don't there was a single thing he said out of line tonight. | ||
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exp
New Zealand91 Posts
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purgerinho
Croatia919 Posts
i was excited before every TSL game but tonight.... after two games idra vs xiaozi i was x.x and same thing was with sen vs draco | ||
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vRoOk
United States1024 Posts
On January 31 2010 06:51 [X]Ken_D wrote: It's like watching 2007 PvZ vs 2009 ZvP. Exactly. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
Although SEn's ZvP in 2007 was just as dominating  | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
A lot of people seemed to hate Daniel's commentaries but i actually liked his a lot. He mentions things you can try to improve your game, things you're suppose to do, what you're suppose to have at this situation, how progamers train, and even little stories about the pros. Things like in sc weekly by artosis when he mentions how flash took his nat gas and with scvs that he was going to use to maynard to nat cc he made them mine gas first before cc was up to get his fact earlier. Though I noticed it when i was watching the game before but im sure a lot of people missed it while watching and didnt know until artosis mentioned it out. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
He also always has some really strange analysis like with the game 1 starvation strategy he didn't really explain that the point was to cut off the amount of bases P can get but emphasized the easy fourth gas, which was kind of strange... I just don't like his casting too much nowadays. His analysis has never been too great but his humor seems to have dropped down quite a lot. I remember watching GSI and smiling and laughing at numerous points during the games. Watching this series, nothing he said made me even crack a smile. I think Artosis had better humor today, and actually has the better humor overall, nowadays. Many of Tasteless's current comments seem like faked excitement and also some strange attempts of analysis that don't seem to work too well. Unrelated to this, I believe it was very strange how neither Tasteless nor Artosis catched the obvious Hydralurk strat on Outsider in Idra vs Xiaozi. It was extremely obvious when the 4th hatch went down, and the fact that neither caught it(or at least mentioned it) when Xiaozi started researching ranged attack was quite shocking. Overall, I think that Artosis was the better caster here by far. Tasteless made me feel kind of like what Gentho did while I was watching the Ascension cast way back in 2008. I pretty much was just waiting for Artosis to start talking again. On January 31 2010 07:09 Gorgy wrote: im sorry for the "strong" language but he didnt commentate much on idras play or strat, he just went "idra will win" mode and just keep on telling how xiaozl ( ? ) had lost. i think the most technical thing he said was "idra has 7 rax" or sth. maybe its the korean air or homesickness but he tends to overcheer foreigners that are in korea (the other one being ret) The strat was 3 tank push into SK Terran, and he did mention upgrades and the speed of teching in every game iirc. There's not too much in-depth analysis you can do about such standard play, and I think he did fine. I think it's quite objective to say that Idra would win. And he did. It wasn't even close, it was a total crushing. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On January 31 2010 07:09 Gorgy wrote: im sorry for the "strong" language but he didnt commentate much on idras play or strat, he just went "idra will win" mode and just keep on telling how xiaozl ( ? ) had lost. i think the most technical thing he said was "idra has 7 rax" or sth. maybe its the korean air or homesickness but he tends to overcheer foreigners that are in korea (the other one being ret) You never thought of possibility that Artosis he got them into korea because they were talented? >.> Thus hypes talented people - only ones that deserve hyping lol | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Thats why GSI and GSL1 were so awesome. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On January 31 2010 07:32 Ilikestarcraft wrote: Personally i really prefer commentaries where people dont shout. Enthusiasm is alrite but what i look for in commentaries and have always looked for in commentaries is when the commentators try to get inside the players' head and talk about what decisions they make, what decisions they can make etc. I watch games for entertainment but I also watch games to learn about starcraft. Its a bit more for competitve players then casual players and there are a lot more casual players here cant do anything about it i suppose. A lot of people seemed to hate Daniel's commentaries but i actually liked his a lot. He mentions things you can try to improve your game, things you're suppose to do, what you're suppose to have at this situation, how progamers train, and even little stories about the pros. Things like in sc weekly by artosis when he mentions how flash took his nat gas and with scvs that he was going to use to maynard to nat cc he made them mine gas first before cc was up to get his fact earlier. Though I noticed it when i was watching the game before but im sure a lot of people missed it while watching and didnt know until artosis mentioned it out. This is what I love about artosis' casting in general, I think we have that in common, but still, its not like tasteless has evolved from mindless shouter -> superanalytical caster, to me it just feels like he lost some of that fire (to use a cheesy word) he used to have. @Shikyo I think you are a bit too harsh but I definitely agree that tasteless has acquired some habits, like you mentioned that he always says great game no matter if it was good, or something that I dislike is that when his partner says something very often he's immediately like "yeah definitely, 100% I have to agree with you absolutely" ( like when artosis said destination was the best map ever), it just sounds pretty fake to me and as if it didnt even matter what his partner said. | ||
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purgerinho
Croatia919 Posts
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MartT
United Kingdom88 Posts
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
Yeah, that about sums it up. | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13092 Posts
On January 31 2010 06:51 [X]Ken_D wrote: It's like watching 2007 PvZ vs 2009 ZvP. This is preety much what happened in that match lol. | ||
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barthos
United States30 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States8196 Posts
On January 31 2010 08:25 MartT wrote: I thought the casted games were chosen based on their potential entertainment value. I realise the admins can't predict exactly what will happen but it's not much fun seeing A players crush C level. - judging from what was on display tonight. All of the Ro16 games are casted . | ||
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