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[MSL] Nate MSL Grand Finals - Flash vs Jaedong - Page 157

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LorDo
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden485 Posts
January 23 2010 11:01 GMT
#3121
On January 23 2010 19:53 CDRdude wrote:
I'm wondering if the power outage is even MBC's fault. Is it their venue, or are they renting it from another agency? Because of the stuff about the 1k spectator cap, I got the impression that they were renting the venue, and therefore have no control over backup power generators.

Also, are we sure they didn't have backup power generators? The power was out for only like 5 seconds. I'm not sure how long it takes to transfer to the backups, but I doubt it's instantaneous. And for all those people saying to look at the replay, there isn't a replay. Replays are autosaved when a game ends. Since the computers crashed, no replay was saved.



On my work they had backup power. In the case of thunder or a power sure of any kind, those would kick in instantly because we had many machines/computers/etc that couldn't be without power for even a ms or they would take hours to boot. Whenever there was thunder warning from the weather sites we would activate the backup power so that it would take over if anything would happen instantaneous.
Imagist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia484 Posts
January 23 2010 11:01 GMT
#3122
MESSAGE FROM THE MELBOURNE MSL PARTY:

Scaramanga is a douche for not being here. Also, these events have cast a pall over the proceedings. We are all very sad.
I enjoy Starcraft when I'm not too busy being dynamic and attractive.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 23 2010 11:01 GMT
#3123
... For the last time.

The KT team has left the building, citing their refusal to accept KESPA's decision.

Source:

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=103322&db=interview
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
January 23 2010 11:01 GMT
#3124
Rematch Killer vs ForGG imo
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42840 Posts
January 23 2010 11:02 GMT
#3125
On January 23 2010 19:58 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 19:56 7mk wrote:

Look, people like Idra and Kwark are lightyears ahead of you in terms of sc knowledge, just dont...


Idra said Jaedong was ahead but it shouldn't be given to him and who's Kwark?

A guy who knows what a 2 base allin looks like.
I also got A- on icc.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
trucane
Profile Joined January 2009
United States553 Posts
January 23 2010 11:02 GMT
#3126
Should be a rematch from the beginning, no point even discussing it. If the power went out when flash seemed to be within 2 minutes of winning he would have gained the win. So the only reason JD won this game is because the power didn't go out till 5 minutes later. How does it make sense that the time of the power shortage decided who won? I thought SC in korea was supposed to be serious business but this is what you would expect from a random game in a random mini tournament.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
January 23 2010 11:02 GMT
#3127
Nevergg's mom sounds wicked cool.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
January 23 2010 11:03 GMT
#3128
Theoretical solution 1: Jaedong saves the game right before it ends. Try to load.

Solution 2: Replay match, but Jaedong gets to pick the map, including older zerg era maps. Some restrictions apply.

Controversies make sports. Like USA vs USSR Olympic basketball. This will only make fans more rabid.
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
January 23 2010 11:03 GMT
#3129
Flash is back woo
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 23 2010 11:03 GMT
#3130
On January 23 2010 20:01 LordWeird wrote:
Gonna be some bans handed out after this is over with...

Lord, I hope so.

I have a personal request, but it wouldn't really justify a ban.

Some people in here though...
Well, lets just say I've seen more 4chan in this thread than everywhere else on this site at any one time put together.
yarders
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom194 Posts
January 23 2010 11:03 GMT
#3131
Flash is back not forfeiting
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
January 23 2010 11:03 GMT
#3132
On January 23 2010 19:52 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 19:50 johnnyspazz wrote:
On January 23 2010 19:47 Shikyo wrote:
On January 23 2010 19:45 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On January 23 2010 19:36 Shikyo wrote:
On January 23 2010 19:32 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
I'm with the people saying Flash is never out of a game. Both the first 2 games had large swings where the other player appeared to have a lead... then lost it. Jaedong was ahead, but he wasn't so far ahead that Flash was somehow all ready on the gallows.

One min only in the middle of the map, main and nat mined out, and with such perfect macro before that he wouldn't have anything saved up, with Flash's entire MnM force crushed right before the power cut, with defilers defending the base. First, JD wouldn't have lost the bottom left. Second, a Z with 2 bases with a third coming > T with one min only IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP how do you defend that?


Defend it the way you normally defend that type of thing. Don't mistake my post as those crazy enough to suggest Flash was ahead. He wasn't and Jaedong most definitely was in much better position. However, Flash still had some science vessles (unless more were scourged off screen), some reinforcements coming (albeit not enough to actually take 7), and for Jaedong to win he was still going to have to use those defilers and push into flash. Flash's attack might've been pushed back further away from JD's base, but it wasn't knocking on flash's natural.

And, others have stated... It's Flash. That's not fanboyism or a delusion; just a fact.

How do you normally defend against fully upgraded ultraling with defilers?

In fact, normally you don't. That's the point where Terran generally starts losing to the Zerg. However, 1 min only in the middle of the map vs 4 base Z with potential of 5 gas?

Puhleaze

rofl are you retarded?
flash vs calm game 3

Off..2 depleted geysers and 1 mineral base and factory? Good luck with that.

he asked how do you normally defend against ultraling with defilers
out of bitterness of what just happened, i called him a name but flash definitely had a working strategy in that game against fully upgraded ultraling with defilers
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 23 2010 11:04 GMT
#3133

On January 23 2010 19:48 ejac wrote:
[image loading]

Poll: Who was ahead
(Vote): JD won for sure
(Vote): JD ahead, but not decisive
(Vote): Even
(Vote): Flash ahead, but not decisive
(Vote): Flash won for sure

When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
January 23 2010 11:04 GMT
#3134
And with tonight's events: so begins the revival of GomTV!

Or, we can hope at least.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 23 2010 11:04 GMT
#3135
On January 23 2010 20:01 LordWeird wrote:
Gonna be some bans handed out after this is over with...


For what?...
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 23 2010 11:04 GMT
#3136
MBC is shameless to run commercials when they screwed up. Do they think their customers are going to be happy and stay loyal?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
BraveNewWorld
Profile Joined December 2009
United States229 Posts
January 23 2010 11:04 GMT
#3137
yeah flash is confirmed as having left the building.

sorry folks, but this is too good to resist. i love esports drama
"who is bisu anyway" - torm3ntin (Jan. 19th, 2009)
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
January 23 2010 11:04 GMT
#3138
noone can say this is not epic... even in it's own way...
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
January 23 2010 11:04 GMT
#3139
Minute-to-minute drama update on OrangeTV guys>

FLash came back in the booth, HOT forever evidently is still somewhat pissed.

Result for 3rd game has no been altered.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
January 23 2010 11:04 GMT
#3140
bo7 is the best solution imo
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