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Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 11:06:25
January 14 2010 11:04 GMT
#921
On January 14 2010 20:01 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 19:59 Corrupt wrote:
On January 14 2010 19:52 raga4ka wrote:
Ok i get Kwanro's build ... But why no upgrades for mutas ?

I wonder about the same goddamn thing man..


that would probably require a 2nd spire in order to not delay the guardians timing.

the 2nd spire + upgrade resources would reduce muta count by 3, and those three mutas in the midgame actually matter alot


he needs the mutas to delay anything from flash until his guards come, so having the armor upgrade is worth several mutas itself. the first game for example, flash got the +1 weapon quickly and killed a lot of mutas with less marines. not that it would've changed the outcome with the armor but he had a better chance of doing more damage. a second spire could have helped considering he had three gas, after the initial armor upgrade from his first spire.

still i don't think it would've mattered what he did with that build, the only chance he had was winning with muta harass and flash making too few turrets
@QxGDarkCell ._.
t_co
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States702 Posts
January 14 2010 11:04 GMT
#922
On January 14 2010 20:00 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 19:57 Waxangel wrote:
funny, Flash doing his interview assuming Jaedong would be his opponent in his finals, and he realized towards the end Jaedong has to play Kal first -_-


omg if kal was watching that lol


I thought Kal and Flash were close friends lol

Maybe this is Flash's way of doing an inside joke here, needling Kal for having to play the Beast. Although Flash and Jaedong are kind of close too. Seems a lot of the top players have mutual respect for one another and tend to hate the same people (e.g. go.go) or not have respect for posers like Kwanro.

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if, after the MSL Finals, Flash takes Jaedong, Kal, Bisu, Stork all out for galbi and booze or something. (But no Kwanro though, did you see how little respect Flash held for him lol)
"Look, don't congratulate us when we buy a company, congratulate us when we sell it. Because any fool can overpay and buy a company, so long as there is money to buy it." --Henry Kravis
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 14 2010 11:04 GMT
#923
On January 14 2010 20:02 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 20:01 Roffles wrote:
On a side note, the Chinese infestation must stop. I don't appreciate 6000+ viewers on my stream and also killing my MBC direct streams. Not appreciated.

But I did enjoy Flash's cheeses. Hella fun to watch =D


can you ip-ban by country?

it's better for OGN games because I think they have a direct stream with livecast themselves.

Can't really do anything about it to be honest. They have stalkers on TL all the time basically. I only care cause 6k+ is liable to get me banned more easily while killing my MBC direct streams due to overflooding MBC servers just gets me pissed cause I have to find another stream source somewhere.
God Bless
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
January 14 2010 11:05 GMT
#924
On January 14 2010 20:04 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 20:03 DoX.) wrote:
On January 14 2010 20:01 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
On January 14 2010 19:57 Waxangel wrote:
funny, Flash doing his interview assuming Jaedong would be his opponent in his finals, and he realized towards the end Jaedong has to play Kal first -_-

you have a translation ??

pls...

a kind soul will put the translations up when they are ready..no use rushing them =)


Word on the street is, Kona will be doing the translation, and it's going to be her last one in a loooong time.

his
POGGERS
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 14 2010 11:05 GMT
#925
On January 14 2010 20:04 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 20:03 Holgerius wrote:
When was the last time a player was in 2 finals at the same time?

im thinking savior, vs nada and bisu?

+1
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
kawatan
Profile Joined January 2010
288 Posts
January 14 2010 11:05 GMT
#926
On January 14 2010 20:04 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 20:03 DoX.) wrote:
On January 14 2010 20:01 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
On January 14 2010 19:57 Waxangel wrote:
funny, Flash doing his interview assuming Jaedong would be his opponent in his finals, and he realized towards the end Jaedong has to play Kal first -_-

you have a translation ??

pls...

a kind soul will put the translations up when they are ready..no use rushing them =)


Word on the street is, Kona will be doing the translation, and it's going to be her last one in a loooong time.


is that true? kona's a girl?
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
January 14 2010 11:05 GMT
#927
On January 14 2010 20:03 Holgerius wrote:
When was the last time a player was in 2 finals at the same time?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/SAviOr
#1 Terran hater
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 14 2010 11:05 GMT
#928
On January 14 2010 20:04 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 20:03 DoX.) wrote:
On January 14 2010 20:01 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
On January 14 2010 19:57 Waxangel wrote:
funny, Flash doing his interview assuming Jaedong would be his opponent in his finals, and he realized towards the end Jaedong has to play Kal first -_-

you have a translation ??

pls...

a kind soul will put the translations up when they are ready..no use rushing them =)


Word on the street is, Kona will be doing the translation, and it's going to be her last one in a loooong time.


lol he's not a girl
beep boop
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 14 2010 11:05 GMT
#929
On January 14 2010 20:04 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 20:03 DoX.) wrote:
On January 14 2010 20:01 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
On January 14 2010 19:57 Waxangel wrote:
funny, Flash doing his interview assuming Jaedong would be his opponent in his finals, and he realized towards the end Jaedong has to play Kal first -_-

you have a translation ??

pls...

a kind soul will put the translations up when they are ready..no use rushing them =)


Word on the street is, Kona will be doing the translation, and it's going to be her last one in a loooong time.

NO WAI
iMarshall
Profile Joined July 2008
Norway190 Posts
January 14 2010 11:06 GMT
#930
I can't believe Kwanro went guardians again! I was sitting on ventrilo with a friend of mine and we were both screaming: "don't do it, Kwanro!" He actually did a fairly good job with keeping Flash in his base with the mutas. He should IMO have transitioned to lurkers followed up later by cracklings/defilers instead, when it was so obvious guardians would fail.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
January 14 2010 11:06 GMT
#931
On January 14 2010 20:05 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 20:04 Mooncat wrote:
On January 14 2010 20:03 DoX.) wrote:
On January 14 2010 20:01 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
On January 14 2010 19:57 Waxangel wrote:
funny, Flash doing his interview assuming Jaedong would be his opponent in his finals, and he realized towards the end Jaedong has to play Kal first -_-

you have a translation ??

pls...

a kind soul will put the translations up when they are ready..no use rushing them =)


Word on the street is, Kona will be doing the translation, and it's going to be her last one in a loooong time.

his


Shush, what do you know?
TranslatorBaa!
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 14 2010 11:06 GMT
#932
On January 14 2010 20:05 kawatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 20:04 Mooncat wrote:
On January 14 2010 20:03 DoX.) wrote:
On January 14 2010 20:01 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
On January 14 2010 19:57 Waxangel wrote:
funny, Flash doing his interview assuming Jaedong would be his opponent in his finals, and he realized towards the end Jaedong has to play Kal first -_-

you have a translation ??

pls...

a kind soul will put the translations up when they are ready..no use rushing them =)


Word on the street is, Kona will be doing the translation, and it's going to be her last one in a loooong time.


is that true? kona's a girl?


Dont be deceived.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
January 14 2010 11:06 GMT
#933
On January 14 2010 20:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 20:05 konadora wrote:
On January 14 2010 20:04 Mooncat wrote:
On January 14 2010 20:03 DoX.) wrote:
On January 14 2010 20:01 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
On January 14 2010 19:57 Waxangel wrote:
funny, Flash doing his interview assuming Jaedong would be his opponent in his finals, and he realized towards the end Jaedong has to play Kal first -_-

you have a translation ??

pls...

a kind soul will put the translations up when they are ready..no use rushing them =)


Word on the street is, Kona will be doing the translation, and it's going to be her last one in a loooong time.

his


Shush, what do you know?


I guess Flash's play made me a little dizzy again :>
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
January 14 2010 11:06 GMT
#934
On January 14 2010 20:04 t_co wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 20:00 alffla wrote:
On January 14 2010 19:57 Waxangel wrote:
funny, Flash doing his interview assuming Jaedong would be his opponent in his finals, and he realized towards the end Jaedong has to play Kal first -_-


omg if kal was watching that lol


I thought Kal and Flash were close friends lol

Maybe this is Flash's way of doing an inside joke here, needling Kal for having to play the Beast. Although Flash and Jaedong are kind of close too. Seems a lot of the top players have mutual respect for one another and tend to hate the same people (e.g. go.go) or not have respect for posers like Kwanro.

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if, after the MSL Finals, Flash takes Jaedong, Kal, Bisu, Stork all out for galbi and booze or something. (But no Kwanro though, did you see how little respect Flash held for him lol)

If you look at flash's round of 8 interview he was exreamly good mannered towards kwanro, he said that hes a very good player and is fun to play against
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 14 2010 11:06 GMT
#935
On January 14 2010 20:04 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 20:02 Cambium wrote:
On January 14 2010 20:01 Roffles wrote:
On a side note, the Chinese infestation must stop. I don't appreciate 6000+ viewers on my stream and also killing my MBC direct streams. Not appreciated.

But I did enjoy Flash's cheeses. Hella fun to watch =D


can you ip-ban by country?

it's better for OGN games because I think they have a direct stream with livecast themselves.

Can't really do anything about it to be honest. They have stalkers on TL all the time basically. I only care cause 6k+ is liable to get me banned more easily while killing my MBC direct streams due to overflooding MBC servers just gets me pissed cause I have to find another stream source somewhere.


When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
January 14 2010 11:06 GMT
#936
On January 14 2010 20:05 kawatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 20:04 Mooncat wrote:
On January 14 2010 20:03 DoX.) wrote:
On January 14 2010 20:01 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
On January 14 2010 19:57 Waxangel wrote:
funny, Flash doing his interview assuming Jaedong would be his opponent in his finals, and he realized towards the end Jaedong has to play Kal first -_-

you have a translation ??

pls...

a kind soul will put the translations up when they are ready..no use rushing them =)


Word on the street is, Kona will be doing the translation, and it's going to be her last one in a loooong time.


is that true? kona's a girl?


lol

but yeah, we're now guranteed a good matchup for the finals. i'm content with either flash v jaedong or flash v kal.
boomer hands
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 14 2010 11:07 GMT
#937
So Flash is the first one since the last bonjwa? New bonjwa in the making... Gogo Flash!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 14 2010 11:08 GMT
#938
On January 14 2010 20:04 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 20:01 Cambium wrote:
On January 14 2010 19:59 Corrupt wrote:
On January 14 2010 19:52 raga4ka wrote:
Ok i get Kwanro's build ... But why no upgrades for mutas ?

I wonder about the same goddamn thing man..


that would probably require a 2nd spire in order to not delay the guardians timing.

the 2nd spire + upgrade resources would reduce muta count by 3, and those three mutas in the midgame actually matter alot


he needs the mutas to delay anything from flash until his guards come, so having the armor upgrade is worth several mutas itself. the first game for example, flash got the +1 weapon quickly and killed a lot of mutas with less marines. not that it would've changed the outcome with the armor but he had a better chance of doing more damage. a second spire could have helped considering he had three gas, after the initial armor upgrade from his first spire.

still i don't think it would've mattered what he did with that build, the only chance he had was winning with muta harass and flash making too few turrets


i agree. maybe we'll see some 2 spire builds in the future for transitioning into guardians
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
January 14 2010 11:08 GMT
#939
It is fitting that Flash will make both finals, and it'll be the first time since the Maestro himself!

What a great season it has been to be a Flash fan. Redemption for 20+ months of disappointment.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
January 14 2010 11:08 GMT
#940
On January 14 2010 20:01 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 20:00 Emon_ wrote:
This is what a Shine vs Flash OSL final would have looked like



hmmm, kinda. but not exactly.... imho shine is a more intelligent and adaptable player than kwanro. shine exploits maps and weaknesses offered to him, while kwanro just goes for some weird all-in-ish tactics every game.


What you're saying is Shine is a different kind of cheese? Mining out minerals on HBR and going for all-in hydras 3/3 games against Bisu doesn't really say diversity to me.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
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