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[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs. Hwaseung OZ - Page 19

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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
January 05 2010 15:23 GMT
#361
Jaedong was horribly outmicroed. CH was actually pretty impressive.
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Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 16:33:26
January 05 2010 16:23 GMT
#362
Should have sent JD. Just realized JD is exactly one year younger than me!
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 05 2010 16:32 GMT
#363
MVP always goes Wraiths in TvT and it never works for him...and yet he keeps doing it.

I didn't even recognize Zero in those pictures on the first page without his regular glasses on.
Zero fighting.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 05 2010 16:35 GMT
#364
On January 06 2010 01:32 Jaksiel wrote:
MVP always goes Wraiths in TvT and it never works for him...and yet he keeps doing it.

I didn't even recognize Zero in those pictures on the first page without his regular glasses on.

It's because MVP sucks horribly and never learns. With insane APM, he still manages to do terribly. But fear not Stars fans! Sair is here to save you guys!
God Bless
ndralcasid
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States524 Posts
January 05 2010 16:39 GMT
#365
I have no real complaints about Hiya being sent out. I think it's good that he has more responsibility with the team and helping JD a bit more.Though I don't expect him to win everytime, I do think he should get more Ace match practice, as the clear 2nd best player on the team.
I aint crying over some daggone danishes
ItsBigfoot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States432 Posts
January 05 2010 17:41 GMT
#366
build order advantage into loss is still bad

and no fanboy will ever deny twelve pool has the advantage on 9 pool speed, even if it isn't auto-win like 9 pool vs 12 hatch
Kal Fighting!
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
January 05 2010 17:47 GMT
#367
its ZvZ guys..the most unstable luck-based matchup. Even noobs can beat Bonjwas on good days, and that is exactly what happened here. Sending an overlord the wrong direction at the beginning can cost you the game in extreme cases

Feel sorry for Zerg players in general, they not only have to deal with TvZ imba BS but their own mirror matchup is unstable as hell
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 17:53:05
January 05 2010 17:50 GMT
#368
On January 06 2010 02:41 ItsBigfoot wrote:
build order advantage into loss is still bad

and no fanboy will ever deny twelve pool has the advantage on 9 pool speed, even if it isn't auto-win like 9 pool vs 12 hatch

You're wrong: 12-pool expand does not have the advantage over 9-pool speed no-expand.
(crazy-hydra's build was overpool, as it happens.)
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
January 05 2010 22:56 GMT
#369
On January 06 2010 02:47 AzureEye wrote:
its ZvZ guys..the most unstable luck-based matchup. Even noobs can beat Bonjwas on good days, and that is exactly what happened here. Sending an overlord the wrong direction at the beginning can cost you the game in extreme cases

Feel sorry for Zerg players in general, they not only have to deal with TvZ imba BS but their own mirror matchup is unstable as hell

Jaedong had a death grip on this matchup not 3 months ago. It sure as hell wasn't luck based back then... did mechanics just catch up or something?
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
January 05 2010 23:00 GMT
#370
Okay Jaedong NEEDS to go on a vocation or something. Like a major break. We need the Death Stare back. Jaedong is probably just tired and stuff.
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o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
January 05 2010 23:07 GMT
#371
On January 05 2010 18:56 thopol wrote:
Well I'm just going to make a radically false assumption here.

Jaedong don't give such a fuck. He is going to be drinking only the finest barley wines because it his his birthday. He will be eating the most glorious of foods, primarily turducken and its seafood equivalent, sharmartunalmon. When he lowers himself to the mortal realm he realizes he has been placed in a game at which he excels. He dare not make this day normal. With a slug of his high-percentage brew fuming through his respiratory system and an extravagant slice of brutally slaughtered animal...s (plural here) all about his taste buds, he decides to please not one but himself. He plays the ZvZ with the indifference that only an exotically pleased expert can convey.

Happy Birthday JD. You the man so I don't care about your stats. You shouldn't either.


this is one of the best posts i've ever seen in a gameday thread
ItsBigfoot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States432 Posts
January 06 2010 00:11 GMT
#372
On January 06 2010 02:50 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2010 02:41 ItsBigfoot wrote:
build order advantage into loss is still bad

and no fanboy will ever deny twelve pool has the advantage on 9 pool speed, even if it isn't auto-win like 9 pool vs 12 hatch

You're wrong: 12-pool expand does not have the advantage over 9-pool speed no-expand.
(crazy-hydra's build was overpool, as it happens.)


then it's a moot point, cause 12 pool is an advantage on overpool, which was my original point, crazy hydra won off a BO disadvantage
Kal Fighting!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
January 06 2010 00:15 GMT
#373
It didn't get to the part where 12 pool's advantage over overpool kicks in because CH outmicroed Jaedong during the first ling battle.
Jaedong
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-06 00:17:43
January 06 2010 00:16 GMT
#374
On January 06 2010 09:11 ItsBigfoot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2010 02:50 qrs wrote:
On January 06 2010 02:41 ItsBigfoot wrote:
build order advantage into loss is still bad

and no fanboy will ever deny twelve pool has the advantage on 9 pool speed, even if it isn't auto-win like 9 pool vs 12 hatch

You're wrong: 12-pool expand does not have the advantage over 9-pool speed no-expand.
(crazy-hydra's build was overpool, as it happens.)


then it's a moot point, cause 12 pool is an advantage on overpool, which was my original point, crazy hydra won off a BO disadvantage


9pool speed is the strongest BO in ZvZ you can have if you have great micro.

I really dont know why Jaedong himself doesnt use it more.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-06 00:17:31
January 06 2010 00:17 GMT
#375
double post
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 06 2010 00:24 GMT
#376
why hiya. WHY
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
January 06 2010 00:56 GMT
#377
Sigh wtf.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-06 02:26:59
January 06 2010 02:26 GMT
#378
On January 05 2010 20:52 GTR wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

wtf? is that zero?! that must have been hilariously awkward
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 06 2010 02:32 GMT
#379
On January 06 2010 09:24 Kenpachi wrote:
why hiya. WHY

Jaedong needs a break once in a while. But I've realized that the less he plays, the worse his play gets. Or his overall play has just diminished for no reason.
God Bless
yhnmk
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada630 Posts
January 06 2010 02:35 GMT
#380
On January 06 2010 00:23 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Jaedong was horribly outmicroed. CH was actually pretty impressive.
I've watched quite a few of CH's zvz games, and genuinely his zvz is pretty damn good. Donno about his other mu's, but his zvz has potential IMO.
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