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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
December 30 2009 06:08 GMT
#241
On December 30 2009 15:07 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 15:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On December 30 2009 15:05 Megalisk wrote:
This is why I sunken up alot wen I play those damned 1-base builds..


I'm not even sure he knew it was a one-base build... it IS Outsider.


Good point. He didn't try floating an OL there did he?


Not to both sides I don't think.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Guilty
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada812 Posts
December 30 2009 06:08 GMT
#242
well, when one twin is up, the other is down; luxury comeback time anyone?
"How hard could it be?" -J. Clarkson
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
December 30 2009 06:08 GMT
#243
Ya i really like seeing these goon builds.
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
December 30 2009 06:09 GMT
#244
interesting play by kal... looks like something most zergs would lose to
( ・´ー・`)
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
December 30 2009 06:09 GMT
#245
On December 30 2009 15:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 15:05 Megalisk wrote:
This is why I sunken up alot wen I play those damned 1-base builds..


I'm not even sure he knew it was a one-base build... it IS Outsider.

Well he could have done SOME effort to try get some scouting intel. He saw Kal not putting up anything after the core finishes and waited for his goon to pop, still he just moved away his lord and never tried poking in again trying to see whats up.

Sure the build kinda rapes when the Z don`t scout it and only masses drones, but he really should have made some effort to scout what was up.
God Hates a Coward
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 06:11:22
December 30 2009 06:10 GMT
#246
On December 30 2009 15:09 Oystein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 15:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On December 30 2009 15:05 Megalisk wrote:
This is why I sunken up alot wen I play those damned 1-base builds..


I'm not even sure he knew it was a one-base build... it IS Outsider.

Well he could have done SOME effort to try get some scouting intel. He saw Kal not putting up anything after the core finishes and waited for his goon to pop, still he just moved away his lord and never tried poking in again trying to see whats up.

Sure the build kinda rapes when the Z don`t scout it and only masses drones, but he really should have made some effort to scout what was up.


Easier said that done. His goon was guarding any possibility of OL scouting. Besides, his gates were built in the corner of his base and his OL would never have made it there in time.
n.Die_Jaedong <3
nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
December 30 2009 06:11 GMT
#247
(P)By.GooJiLa!!!
티라노사저그 렉스 화이팅~!
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
December 30 2009 06:11 GMT
#248
On December 30 2009 15:09 Oystein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 15:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On December 30 2009 15:05 Megalisk wrote:
This is why I sunken up alot wen I play those damned 1-base builds..


I'm not even sure he knew it was a one-base build... it IS Outsider.

Well he could have done SOME effort to try get some scouting intel. He saw Kal not putting up anything after the core finishes and waited for his goon to pop, still he just moved away his lord and never tried poking in again trying to see whats up.

Sure the build kinda rapes when the Z don`t scout it and only masses drones, but he really should have made some effort to scout what was up.


Oh, definitely. Thus his abyssmal ZvP reputation.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
December 30 2009 06:17 GMT
#249
Lolzzz... MBC is currently showing that Bisu vs [NC]..YellOw game on HBR for one of the best picks of 2009. ^_^
n.Die_Jaedong <3
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
December 30 2009 06:21 GMT
#250
Hwasin vs Kal tommorow.

Smug toss has mental advantage from tonight's match.
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
December 30 2009 06:44 GMT
#251
nooo i wanted Calm to be sent to the ace and win it ;<
Hite never seems to win the ace matches.
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 30 2009 07:35 GMT
#252
On December 30 2009 15:44 pripple wrote:
nooo i wanted Calm to be sent to the ace and win it ;<
Hite never seems to win the ace matches.


Last season Leta was the king of Ace Matches.

TIMES HAVE CHANGED
Remember Violet.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
December 30 2009 07:39 GMT
#253
Leta basically just fizzled out after his TvZ Wraith usage was figured out, that was the main thing that was carrying him.
TranslatorBaa!
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 30 2009 07:41 GMT
#254
His TvT was arguably the best in the world at the time, too.

His TvP is nowhere near as good but he was capable of pulling out crazy wins, as seen in his sparse games vs the Dragons.
Remember Violet.
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
December 30 2009 08:44 GMT
#255
Kal fighting! Thank god he finally got a chance in the ace again, I'm not even sure when was he last sent out as ace.
BW fighting!
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
December 30 2009 10:40 GMT
#256
On December 30 2009 16:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Leta basically just fizzled out after his TvZ Wraith usage was figured out, that was the main thing that was carrying him.

Similar thing to Lomo, I believe.
Abyzou
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden209 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 14:17:15
December 30 2009 14:15 GMT
#257
On December 30 2009 15:10 asdfTT123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 15:09 Oystein wrote:
On December 30 2009 15:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On December 30 2009 15:05 Megalisk wrote:
This is why I sunken up alot wen I play those damned 1-base builds..


I'm not even sure he knew it was a one-base build... it IS Outsider.

Well he could have done SOME effort to try get some scouting intel. He saw Kal not putting up anything after the core finishes and waited for his goon to pop, still he just moved away his lord and never tried poking in again trying to see whats up.

Sure the build kinda rapes when the Z don`t scout it and only masses drones, but he really should have made some effort to scout what was up.


Easier said that done. His goon was guarding any possibility of OL scouting. Besides, his gates were built in the corner of his base and his OL would never have made it there in time.

I agree. There just wasn't a easy way, he would have to have insane game sense to recognize that Kal wasn't going to tech and go for goon pressure.

And as for floating dual ovies to scout his base... Really now? How standard is that? He didn't have a reason to believe there was anything weird going on.

Face it, it was a really solid build.
Savior and Jaedong, how come zerg progamers are so awesome?
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
December 30 2009 17:47 GMT
#258
On December 30 2009 23:15 Abyzou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 15:10 asdfTT123 wrote:
On December 30 2009 15:09 Oystein wrote:
On December 30 2009 15:07 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On December 30 2009 15:05 Megalisk wrote:
This is why I sunken up alot wen I play those damned 1-base builds..


I'm not even sure he knew it was a one-base build... it IS Outsider.

Well he could have done SOME effort to try get some scouting intel. He saw Kal not putting up anything after the core finishes and waited for his goon to pop, still he just moved away his lord and never tried poking in again trying to see whats up.

Sure the build kinda rapes when the Z don`t scout it and only masses drones, but he really should have made some effort to scout what was up.


Easier said that done. His goon was guarding any possibility of OL scouting. Besides, his gates were built in the corner of his base and his OL would never have made it there in time.

I agree. There just wasn't a easy way, he would have to have insane game sense to recognize that Kal wasn't going to tech and go for goon pressure.

And as for floating dual ovies to scout his base... Really now? How standard is that? He didn't have a reason to believe there was anything weird going on.

Face it, it was a really solid build.
I did not suggest floating dual ovies into the base, but he could have used the one ovie he had right outside his ramp that he floated away to at least TRY and scout what was up. Hell if he had moved it up into his main and sacrificed it he would have seen the spinning core, you don`t have to be a rocket scientist to expect goons then. What he opted for was moving away his lord and relying on a single ling for scouting, hell he did not even realize what Kal was doing until Kals army was already outside his own natural which left him with no time getting up sunks\units. Hell even if Kal had did 3gate speed zeals he would probably have raped him also.

And no it was not a SOLID build, it was an all in build that relied on Zerg not scouting it, because if he do its pretty much an auto loss. There is a reason for the saying "Assumptions, the mother of all fuck ups". If you make no effort to find out what someone who is 1baseing is doing, then you can`t complain when they roll you with something unexpected. Now maybe he would not have gained any intel with sacking his overlord, but he would at least have tried to find out what Kal was up to and then his loss would be easier to accept.
God Hates a Coward
Abyzou
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden209 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 18:55:13
December 30 2009 18:54 GMT
#259
I meant solid as in, it works when you can anticipate how the zerg will react. Saccing the overlord to scout isn't all that common.

In short, a good play led to a well deserved win.
Savior and Jaedong, how come zerg progamers are so awesome?
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