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SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
December 26 2009 09:17 GMT
#441
Kwanro's 5th base going up at 9 o'clock.
Graphics
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7816 Posts
December 26 2009 09:17 GMT
#442
Say what you want about Bogus but he's giving a more entertaining game than Savior would.
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
December 26 2009 09:18 GMT
#443
ouch, 1-2 marines vs 4-1 ultras
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
December 26 2009 09:18 GMT
#444
On December 26 2009 18:15 Sinedd wrote:
please loose this series Kwanro ... i dont want more boring zergs please ...

Kwanro is a lot of things... Boring is never one of them.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
December 26 2009 09:18 GMT
#445
Kwanro just raping shit with his ultras, though he now has to retreat with his remaining ones.

More troops filing in for Kwanro, but he now has to retreat.

Kwanro needs to control that vessel cloud plz.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
December 26 2009 09:18 GMT
#446
Rofll 7 base zerg vs 3 base?
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
mmgoose
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
769 Posts
December 26 2009 09:18 GMT
#447
wow bogus hanging on like a champ!
And you know if a grandmother had a penis she would be a grandfather.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 26 2009 09:19 GMT
#448
has kwanro ever had this many bases before?
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-26 09:19:42
December 26 2009 09:19 GMT
#449
On December 26 2009 18:15 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2009 18:13 Harem wrote:
On December 26 2009 18:07 Chen wrote:
On December 26 2009 18:04 Nevuk wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:59 Orbifold wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:57 OneOther wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:55 Shikyo wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:52 OneOther wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:50 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:49 OneOther wrote:
[quote]
shut the fuck up
i tried my best to ignore your posts but damn

Yeah, man. It's more like 1a2a3a4a 7t t t t

it's not that
the hardest part about late game pvt vs 3-3 terran army is the decision making. knowing when to attack, when to recall, when to expand, where to hit. if you make one slip with your army then you lose. best made incredible decisions throughout the game

If not maxed -> macro until maxed

If maxed -> stasis a load of shit, amove army,


Also, the fact that Protoss has an answer againt 3-3 Terran mech at all makes the MU quite imbalanced in my eyes, since that's the only way T should be able to beat a P. P has too huge of an advantage in every single other kind of an encounter.

pvt is the least imbalanced matchup out of pvt tvz and zvp


I dunno about that, think about the following three questions:

Who are a couple "good" TvPers?
Who are a couple "good" ZvTers?
Who are a couple "good" PvZers?

TvP - Really/Fantasy
ZvT - Yarnc
PvZ - Free

(All these players break their racial stereotypes. Some are slumping but all of them have their race's weakest matchup as their best one. Free might have switched over to PvT now by a bit, but until this year his PvZ was far and away better than his PvT. Kal was really good PvZ as well).

Were there any good PvZers before Bisu's revolution? or was it all like Ra/Reach who struggled against zerg?

.....No good pvz'ers before Bisu? I can't believe that you are serious.



im talking about specialists like Yarnc, 60+% in one MU 40-50 in the others


Up until March 2007, free was 65% PvZ, 25% PvT, 50% PvP. Does that count?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
December 26 2009 09:19 GMT
#450
On December 26 2009 18:17 Vasoline73 wrote:
Say what you want about Bogus but he's giving a more entertaining game than Savior would.

considering he eliminated Bisu with that proxy 2-fact i think that would be a better comparison. Id say Bisu-kwanro could be more entertaining than this
Especially since Bogus has very sloppy vessel controll, loses most of them again
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
December 26 2009 09:19 GMT
#451
what the fuck ?

he just lost 3 vessels ... for nothing

sloppyyyyyyy
T H C makes ppl happy
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
December 26 2009 09:19 GMT
#452
Comon Bogus.... Wheres that gg.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 26 2009 09:19 GMT
#453
OneOther: I know that, and wasn't being completely serious especially in some statements, but still it's amazing how the best terran players in the world except solely, like, Flash in his absolute TvP prime are unable to position their units properly against arbiters. But yeah you're right of course, still I'm quite afraid of what'll happen when P players learn to use their arbiters better.

Kwanro taking way longer than necessary. I guess there's a reason for him always going for the aggressive style of play, since this seems kind of... lackluster.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-26 09:21:18
December 26 2009 09:19 GMT
#454
On December 26 2009 18:15 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2009 18:13 Harem wrote:
On December 26 2009 18:07 Chen wrote:
On December 26 2009 18:04 Nevuk wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:59 Orbifold wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:57 OneOther wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:55 Shikyo wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:52 OneOther wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:50 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:49 OneOther wrote:
[quote]
shut the fuck up
i tried my best to ignore your posts but damn

Yeah, man. It's more like 1a2a3a4a 7t t t t

it's not that
the hardest part about late game pvt vs 3-3 terran army is the decision making. knowing when to attack, when to recall, when to expand, where to hit. if you make one slip with your army then you lose. best made incredible decisions throughout the game

If not maxed -> macro until maxed

If maxed -> stasis a load of shit, amove army,


Also, the fact that Protoss has an answer againt 3-3 Terran mech at all makes the MU quite imbalanced in my eyes, since that's the only way T should be able to beat a P. P has too huge of an advantage in every single other kind of an encounter.

pvt is the least imbalanced matchup out of pvt tvz and zvp


I dunno about that, think about the following three questions:

Who are a couple "good" TvPers?
Who are a couple "good" ZvTers?
Who are a couple "good" PvZers?

TvP - Really/Fantasy
ZvT - Yarnc
PvZ - Free

(All these players break their racial stereotypes. Some are slumping but all of them have their race's weakest matchup as their best one. Free might have switched over to PvT now by a bit, but until this year his PvZ was far and away better than his PvT. Kal was really good PvZ as well).

Were there any good PvZers before Bisu's revolution? or was it all like Ra/Reach who struggled against zerg?

.....No good pvz'ers before Bisu? I can't believe that you are serious.



im talking about specialists like Yarnc, 60+% in one MU 40-50 in the others

I cannot remember this person's name but there was one protoss player in very very early days... like pre 2002 who was like that, I think. (P)SONJJANG, that's right. There are some replays in the replay section. Comments indicate that he was supposed to have the best PvZ of all time.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
December 26 2009 09:19 GMT
#455
Unless Bogus is secretly massing tanks, please leave.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
December 26 2009 09:20 GMT
#456
Bogus's army just getting run over.

GG from Bogus.

GAME 3 HERE WE GO!
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
December 26 2009 09:20 GMT
#457
Kwanrooooooooooolled
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
December 26 2009 09:20 GMT
#458
bogus finally gg's
hopefully he will take game 3
brood war for life, brood war forever
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
December 26 2009 09:20 GMT
#459
disgusting game , just disgusting
T H C makes ppl happy
nebffa
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Australia776 Posts
December 26 2009 09:20 GMT
#460
bogus put up a pretty good fight for a while at least
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