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Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
December 26 2009 09:20 GMT
#461
That game was just goofy.

Sure Kwanro... go ahead and 3 hatch, I'll just put down my 2 Rax and hang out at my nat for 10 minutes.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
December 26 2009 09:20 GMT
#462
Kwanro definitely went outside his comfort zone that game. I've never seen him with so many bases lol.
Graphics
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 26 2009 09:22 GMT
#463
On December 26 2009 18:19 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2009 18:15 Chen wrote:
On December 26 2009 18:13 Harem wrote:
On December 26 2009 18:07 Chen wrote:
On December 26 2009 18:04 Nevuk wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:59 Orbifold wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:57 OneOther wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:55 Shikyo wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:52 OneOther wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:50 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
[quote]
Yeah, man. It's more like 1a2a3a4a 7t t t t

it's not that
the hardest part about late game pvt vs 3-3 terran army is the decision making. knowing when to attack, when to recall, when to expand, where to hit. if you make one slip with your army then you lose. best made incredible decisions throughout the game

If not maxed -> macro until maxed

If maxed -> stasis a load of shit, amove army,


Also, the fact that Protoss has an answer againt 3-3 Terran mech at all makes the MU quite imbalanced in my eyes, since that's the only way T should be able to beat a P. P has too huge of an advantage in every single other kind of an encounter.

pvt is the least imbalanced matchup out of pvt tvz and zvp


I dunno about that, think about the following three questions:

Who are a couple "good" TvPers?
Who are a couple "good" ZvTers?
Who are a couple "good" PvZers?

TvP - Really/Fantasy
ZvT - Yarnc
PvZ - Free

(All these players break their racial stereotypes. Some are slumping but all of them have their race's weakest matchup as their best one. Free might have switched over to PvT now by a bit, but until this year his PvZ was far and away better than his PvT. Kal was really good PvZ as well).

Were there any good PvZers before Bisu's revolution? or was it all like Ra/Reach who struggled against zerg?

.....No good pvz'ers before Bisu? I can't believe that you are serious.



im talking about specialists like Yarnc, 60+% in one MU 40-50 in the others

I cannot remember this person's name but there was one protoss player in very very early days... like pre 2002 who was like that, I think. (P)SONJJANG, that's right. There are some replays in the replay section. Comments indicate that he was supposed to have the best PvZ of all time.


That July vs Sonjjang replay is one of my favorites, he played everything perfect to the standards of his time and July still won lol
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
December 26 2009 09:22 GMT
#464
BBS incoming?
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
December 26 2009 09:23 GMT
#465
Longinus III, here we go.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
mmgoose
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
769 Posts
December 26 2009 09:23 GMT
#466
god i hate this map, it's so nakedly terran favored
And you know if a grandmother had a penis she would be a grandfather.
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
December 26 2009 09:23 GMT
#467
You know what build I haven't seen for a long time in TvZ? 2Port Wraiths. What ever happened to that build? lol
Graphics
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
December 26 2009 09:24 GMT
#468
c'mon ultimatum, do the job you were created for (eliminating mediocre zergs from the msl)
brood war for life, brood war forever
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 26 2009 09:24 GMT
#469
dont let me down bogus =D
hatred outlives the hateful
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
December 26 2009 09:24 GMT
#470
So how many zergs remain in the MSL so far?
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Pokeball
Profile Joined December 2009
94 Posts
December 26 2009 09:24 GMT
#471
5 pool incoming.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 26 2009 09:24 GMT
#472
Ultimatum doesn't look that bad TvZ, is there something I'm missing here?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
mmgoose
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
769 Posts
December 26 2009 09:24 GMT
#473
On December 26 2009 18:24 Disregard wrote:
So how many zergs remain in the MSL so far?


mediocre terrans
And you know if a grandmother had a penis she would be a grandfather.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 26 2009 09:25 GMT
#474
On December 26 2009 18:23 SilverskY wrote:
You know what build I haven't seen for a long time in TvZ? 2Port Wraiths. What ever happened to that build? lol

It only works if you don't know it's coming, and also 2h muta, which is quite popular these days, is like a direct counter and autowin against it.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
December 26 2009 09:25 GMT
#475
Wow... this thread seems so unbelievably mellow after last nights OSL thread.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 26 2009 09:26 GMT
#476
On December 26 2009 18:22 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2009 18:19 Nevuk wrote:
On December 26 2009 18:15 Chen wrote:
On December 26 2009 18:13 Harem wrote:
On December 26 2009 18:07 Chen wrote:
On December 26 2009 18:04 Nevuk wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:59 Orbifold wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:57 OneOther wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:55 Shikyo wrote:
On December 26 2009 17:52 OneOther wrote:
[quote]
it's not that
the hardest part about late game pvt vs 3-3 terran army is the decision making. knowing when to attack, when to recall, when to expand, where to hit. if you make one slip with your army then you lose. best made incredible decisions throughout the game

If not maxed -> macro until maxed

If maxed -> stasis a load of shit, amove army,


Also, the fact that Protoss has an answer againt 3-3 Terran mech at all makes the MU quite imbalanced in my eyes, since that's the only way T should be able to beat a P. P has too huge of an advantage in every single other kind of an encounter.

pvt is the least imbalanced matchup out of pvt tvz and zvp


I dunno about that, think about the following three questions:

Who are a couple "good" TvPers?
Who are a couple "good" ZvTers?
Who are a couple "good" PvZers?

TvP - Really/Fantasy
ZvT - Yarnc
PvZ - Free

(All these players break their racial stereotypes. Some are slumping but all of them have their race's weakest matchup as their best one. Free might have switched over to PvT now by a bit, but until this year his PvZ was far and away better than his PvT. Kal was really good PvZ as well).

Were there any good PvZers before Bisu's revolution? or was it all like Ra/Reach who struggled against zerg?

.....No good pvz'ers before Bisu? I can't believe that you are serious.



im talking about specialists like Yarnc, 60+% in one MU 40-50 in the others

I cannot remember this person's name but there was one protoss player in very very early days... like pre 2002 who was like that, I think. (P)SONJJANG, that's right. There are some replays in the replay section. Comments indicate that he was supposed to have the best PvZ of all time.


That July vs Sonjjang replay is one of my favorites, he played everything perfect to the standards of his time and July still won lol

I need to watch it. Apparently he wasn't even actively gaming when he played that game, being in the army and all. I actually am interested in getting a bunch of sonjjang replays now, but all the links are dead.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 26 2009 09:26 GMT
#477
On December 26 2009 18:25 Orbifold wrote:
Wow... this thread seems so unbelievably mellow after last nights OSL thread.


maybe zero should 4 pool flash to stir up excitement
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-26 09:26:41
December 26 2009 09:26 GMT
#478
On December 26 2009 18:25 Orbifold wrote:
Wow... this thread seems so unbelievably mellow after last nights OSL thread.


No JD vs Flash here.

edit: Lets just hope its Best vs Flash finals :D
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
December 26 2009 09:26 GMT
#479
On December 26 2009 18:25 Orbifold wrote:
Wow... this thread seems so unbelievably mellow after last nights OSL thread.


No one has the energy to argue after canata v best
skating
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 26 2009 09:26 GMT
#480
On December 26 2009 18:23 SilverskY wrote:
You know what build I haven't seen for a long time in TvZ? 2Port Wraiths. What ever happened to that build? lol


lomo started crying v_v
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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