On December 26 2009 18:23 SilverskY wrote:
You know what build I haven't seen for a long time in TvZ? 2Port Wraiths. What ever happened to that build? lol

It only works if you don't know it's coming, and also 2h muta, which is quite popular these days, is like a direct counter and autowin against it.

Orbifold

United States1922 Posts

December 26 2009 09:25 GMT

#475

Wow... this thread seems so unbelievably mellow after last nights OSL thread.

Nevuk

United States16280 Posts

December 26 2009 09:26 GMT

#476

On December 26 2009 18:22 writer22816 wrote:

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On December 26 2009 18:19 Nevuk wrote:

On December 26 2009 18:15 Chen wrote:

On December 26 2009 18:13 Harem wrote:

On December 26 2009 18:07 Chen wrote:

On December 26 2009 18:04 Nevuk wrote:

On December 26 2009 17:59 Orbifold wrote:

On December 26 2009 17:57 OneOther wrote:

On December 26 2009 17:55 Shikyo wrote:

On December 26 2009 17:52 OneOther wrote:
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it's not that
the hardest part about late game pvt vs 3-3 terran army is the decision making. knowing when to attack, when to recall, when to expand, where to hit. if you make one slip with your army then you lose. best made incredible decisions throughout the game

If not maxed -> macro until maxed

If maxed -> stasis a load of shit, amove army,

Also, the fact that Protoss has an answer againt 3-3 Terran mech at all makes the MU quite imbalanced in my eyes, since that's the only way T should be able to beat a P. P has too huge of an advantage in every single other kind of an encounter.

pvt is the least imbalanced matchup out of pvt tvz and zvp

I dunno about that, think about the following three questions:

Who are a couple "good" TvPers?
Who are a couple "good" ZvTers?
Who are a couple "good" PvZers?

TvP - Really/Fantasy
ZvT - Yarnc
PvZ - Free

(All these players break their racial stereotypes. Some are slumping but all of them have their race's weakest matchup as their best one. Free might have switched over to PvT now by a bit, but until this year his PvZ was far and away better than his PvT. Kal was really good PvZ as well).

Were there any good PvZers before Bisu's revolution? or was it all like Ra/Reach who struggled against zerg?

.....No good pvz'ers before Bisu? I can't believe that you are serious.

im talking about specialists like Yarnc, 60+% in one MU 40-50 in the others

I cannot remember this person's name but there was one protoss player in very very early days... like pre 2002 who was like that, I think. (P)

SONJJANG, that's right. There are some replays in the replay section. Comments indicate that he was supposed to have the best PvZ of all time.

That July vs Sonjjang replay is one of my favorites, he played everything perfect to the standards of his time and July still won lol

I need to watch it. Apparently he wasn't even actively gaming when he played that game, being in the army and all. I actually am interested in getting a bunch of sonjjang replays now, but all the links are dead.

jalstar

United States8198 Posts

December 26 2009 09:26 GMT

#477

On December 26 2009 18:25 Orbifold wrote:
Wow... this thread seems so unbelievably mellow after last nights OSL thread.

maybe zero should 4 pool flash to stir up excitement

Disregard

China10252 Posts

December 26 2009 09:26 GMT

#478

On December 26 2009 18:25 Orbifold wrote:
Wow... this thread seems so unbelievably mellow after last nights OSL thread.

No JD vs Flash here.

edit: Lets just hope its Best vs Flash finals :D

huameng

United States1133 Posts

December 26 2009 09:26 GMT

#479

On December 26 2009 18:25 Orbifold wrote:
Wow... this thread seems so unbelievably mellow after last nights OSL thread.

No one has the energy to argue after canata v best

Ace

United States16096 Posts

December 26 2009 09:26 GMT

#480

On December 26 2009 18:23 SilverskY wrote:
You know what build I haven't seen for a long time in TvZ? 2Port Wraiths. What ever happened to that build? lol

lomo started crying v_v