EPTOn December 23 2009 02:58 Amarxist wrote:
Hmm, Flash. 23 wins vs Terran in official games. Pretttttttty nutty.
Hmm, Flash. 23 wins vs Terran in official games. Pretttttttty nutty.
thats insane.. im such a Flash fan now
ToT
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andiCR
Costa Rica2273 Posts
thats insane.. im such a Flash fan now ToT | ||
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SimonB
United States1088 Posts
815 and Violet got their best matchup. As for forgg, I think they're trying to get him in shape so that Flash can have a rest coming up with some heavy games. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On December 23 2009 03:00 Xiphos wrote: I think Flash's TvT winning streak was like JD ZvZ streak. Players might be able to catch up but not anytime soon. Jaedong never actually had a very long, uninterrupted ZvZ streak. He just went on several 7, 8, or 9 game winning streaks before dropping one, then continuing with another small streak. But I think it's not a stretch to say that Flash may very well have the most dominant match up of all time. Jaedong's long time consistency until recently was mind blowing, but +20 games in a row? And given the quality of the games it's not like other terrans are bad at TvT (Like was the case until recently with most zergs). He's just on such a different level. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On December 23 2009 04:52 TwoToneTerran wrote: Jaedong never actually had a very long, uninterrupted ZvZ streak. He just went on several 7, 8, or 9 game winning streaks before dropping one, then continuing with another small streak. But I think it's not a stretch to say that Flash may very well have the most dominant match up of all time. Jaedong's long time consistency until recently was mind blowing, but +20 games in a row? And given the quality of the games it's not like other terrans are bad at TvT (Like was the case until recently with most zergs). He's just on such a different level. Well TvT is much easier to get a streak at than ZvZ too. In ZvZ one error means you lose the whole game. In TvT comebacks are possible and not rare at all. | ||
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TriniMasta
United States1323 Posts
On December 23 2009 04:54 SuperArc wrote: Well TvT is much easier to get a streak at than ZvZ too. In ZvZ one error means you lose the whole game. In TvT comebacks are possible and not rare at all. So true so true... | ||
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Anduril
United States248 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On December 23 2009 05:08 gemini24 wrote: Even though KT loss, I liked that they put what people called a "mediocre" lineup. It gives the other players more confidence and helps towards building an even stronger team. Also, if these players can play consistently, then Flash may have a match or two off for rest while the team will still be competitive. 815 and forgg are old, sending them out hardly justifies towards building an even stronger team. If KT wants to experiment, send out Stats and one of their younger terrans. | ||
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Anduril
United States248 Posts
On December 23 2009 05:13 SuperArc wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On December 23 2009 05:08 gemini24 wrote: Even though KT loss, I liked that they put what people called a "mediocre" lineup. It gives the other players more confidence and helps towards building an even stronger team. Also, if these players can play consistently, then Flash may have a match or two off for rest while the team will still be competitive. 815 and forgg are old, sending them out hardly justifies towards building an even stronger team. If KT wants to experiment, send out Stats and one of their younger terrans. I understand that they are old, but I've always felt that veteran players are like the glue of a team while the youngsters are the dynamic breaths of fresh air. Keeping the veterans sharp will always help the atmosphere of the team. Developing younger players is always a good idea as it makes your team deeper, but having in-form veterans can have the same effect just not for the long term. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
Also Pure is totally awesome so him winning is a plus as well | ||
Waxangel
United States33578 Posts
Flash was going to kill Mind for sure, but the rest of it showed there was a very possible 3-1 coming. First off, Shine is very good at ZvZ and definitely should be favored against 815. If you've bothered to watch Shine's ZvZ, you'll know that besides his good results the quality of his ZvZ is excellent. Roro should easily be favored against a terrible player like ForGG who hasn't shown us anything meaningful for months. Violet is probably slightly favored over Pure, but as long as Wemade got that matchup they could feel pretty good about their chances at a 3-1. | ||
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SimonB
United States1088 Posts
815 was 9-1 in his last 10 against zergs including wins over Shine and Jaedong. He's always been an excellent ZvZer. Violet is a major favorite over Pure. He was 11-2 in his last PvP, including 2 wins over Pure and a win over Bisu in his best matchup. Violet has a 68% in PvP, with only 48% for Pure. There's no "slight" favorite here; Violet is a thousand times better at PvP (among other things), but games don't always go to the favorite. Forgg isn't the same player he used to be, but Roro never has been (Forgg as bad as he's been, still has a higher ELO). They're both mediocre players these days; there's no favorite anymore. | ||
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Ozarugold
2716 Posts
meh... | ||
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hyst.eric.al
United States2332 Posts
guess i will have to wait for the vod to see what happened | ||
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
Flash does such a good job being KT's anchor, though. They never have to suffer humiliating 0-3 defeats, so they can always think "Hey, if we could have just won ONE more game, we could have cleaned up in ace". And in the rare instances Flash does drop his game, it seems to send his teammates into revenge rape-mode and they pull through for him. | ||
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mog87
United States1586 Posts
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
O___O and Flash is still on his ridiculous TvT win streak | ||
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
On December 23 2009 10:42 Trezeguet23 wrote: God Flash really is the ultimate weapon. Too bad the rest of KT didn't show up. Flash has taken down just about every single big terran and seemingly with ease. Seriously, as long as he doesn't go for 14cc there doesn't seem to be an answer to his game. I bet a 5 pooling zerg that does not get scouted right away will beat flash hands down. | ||
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
On December 23 2009 10:48 lone_hydra wrote: I bet a 5 pooling zerg that does not get scouted right away will beat flash hands down. If it was that easy, someone would have tried it by now. Flash's SCV micro is probably way too good. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
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