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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
December 17 2009 11:08 GMT
#901
When the zerg is completely defensive against a terran like Flash, it's only a matter of time before he builds up a few tanks and just steam-rolls the zerg. I suppose I should of seen this comming even though Flash seemed shaky in the mid-game.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
December 17 2009 11:08 GMT
#902
On December 17 2009 20:07 MrHoon wrote:
You guys realize Zero was so low on gas he had to basically milk the shit out of his economy for anything else?

oh ya, I guess that super late third really fucked him over.
sauc
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada26 Posts
December 17 2009 11:08 GMT
#903
yeah zero was never really in the lead but he did a good impression of pretending he was by just turtling with endless swarms
Inflexion
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada560 Posts
December 17 2009 11:09 GMT
#904
Wow, Flash is too good.

Only way Flash loses in TvZ is when he comes out of the early/mid game at a significant disadvantage (as seen from game with HyuN). His macro/map control is too godly late game for anyone.

Only way I see Flash losing is when he makes a big mistake mid game or against someone who has sick sick muta harass (which he happen when he plays JD in OSL ).
Four wheels move the body; two wheels move the soul.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 17 2009 11:09 GMT
#905
On December 17 2009 20:08 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 20:07 mmgoose wrote:
On December 17 2009 20:05 Mastermind wrote:
On December 17 2009 20:05 Rucky wrote:
zero forgot attack upgrades to... ultras only at 1-3

He also forgot ling attack speed!! and fucking ultra speed.


invested shittons on scourges so no go

fucking ling attack speed is more important than a couple scourge isnt it?

he thought he could down all the vessels and buy more time

hence it was a terrible decision
dats racist
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 17 2009 11:09 GMT
#906
On December 17 2009 20:08 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 20:07 mmgoose wrote:
On December 17 2009 20:05 Mastermind wrote:
On December 17 2009 20:05 Rucky wrote:
zero forgot attack upgrades to... ultras only at 1-3

He also forgot ling attack speed!! and fucking ultra speed.


invested shittons on scourges so no go

fucking ling attack speed is more important than a couple scourge isnt it?

It is, that's a terrible excuse. You delay ultras if anything, crack upgrade you get the second after you put your defiler mound down. Every single time.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
mmgoose
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
769 Posts
December 17 2009 11:10 GMT
#907
On December 17 2009 20:08 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 20:07 mmgoose wrote:
On December 17 2009 20:05 Mastermind wrote:
On December 17 2009 20:05 Rucky wrote:
zero forgot attack upgrades to... ultras only at 1-3

He also forgot ling attack speed!! and fucking ultra speed.


invested shittons on scourges so no go

fucking ling attack speed is more important than a couple scourge isnt it?


well that's the trouble with zero he ain't no jaedong.


And you know if a grandmother had a penis she would be a grandfather.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 17 2009 11:10 GMT
#908
Zero is going to win 2-0 I hope
Ultimatum is out of the way
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10347 Posts
December 17 2009 11:10 GMT
#909
On December 17 2009 20:06 MrHoon wrote:
YAY FINALLY NO MORE "Flash's TvZ isn't legit" threads

FUCK UYALL NAGGERS


Well, I don't know who's dumb enough to call out Flash's TvZ, even if he lost to Kwanro.

It's unlikely that Zero win the next two in the series, but the fact remains that this series isn't yet won.
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lordmordor
Profile Joined February 2009
United States209 Posts
December 17 2009 11:10 GMT
#910
i just want to see JD take out firefist so i can get some sleep
Rucky
Profile Joined February 2008
United States717 Posts
December 17 2009 11:10 GMT
#911
zero's defense with defiler was as good as a top zerg can get...even jaedong would only defend in the same way.

the only thing that could have worked was to not let flash expand so much, but flash was making sure nothing of that.
Beyond the Game
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-17 11:11:22
December 17 2009 11:10 GMT
#912
actually flash was on 2base for a little too long, he was losing 2base to 4

he won on latelategame 4 base to 5, where his latelategameplay's just better than zero
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 17 2009 11:10 GMT
#913
On December 17 2009 20:09 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 20:08 Mastermind wrote:
On December 17 2009 20:07 mmgoose wrote:
On December 17 2009 20:05 Mastermind wrote:
On December 17 2009 20:05 Rucky wrote:
zero forgot attack upgrades to... ultras only at 1-3

He also forgot ling attack speed!! and fucking ultra speed.


invested shittons on scourges so no go

fucking ling attack speed is more important than a couple scourge isnt it?

he thought he could down all the vessels and buy more time

hence it was a terrible decision

I think that he just thought that it'd be cool to be the maestro. It's not like anyone could be that stupid.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
December 17 2009 11:11 GMT
#914
On December 17 2009 20:07 MrHoon wrote:
You guys realize Zero was so low on gas he had to basically milk the shit out of his economy for anything else?


Then why did he rush for ultras ? Lurker ling scourge with defilers would have been fine . Plague the damn vessels and pick them up with mutas . Not making 2 control groups of scourge and killing like 6 vessels .
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
December 17 2009 11:11 GMT
#915
On December 17 2009 20:10 samachking wrote:
Zero is going to win 2-0 I hope
Ultimatum is out of the way

2-1?
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
December 17 2009 11:11 GMT
#916
Flash always gets a 3rd and 4base up where other terrans fail because they never manage to control the center vs good defiler play. Probs to Flash.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 17 2009 11:11 GMT
#917
On December 17 2009 20:11 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 20:10 samachking wrote:
Zero is going to win 2-0 I hope
Ultimatum is out of the way

2-1?


2-0 in day 2 I mean
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
December 17 2009 11:12 GMT
#918
On December 17 2009 20:10 Rucky wrote:
zero's defense with defiler was as good as a top zerg can get...even jaedong would only defend in the same way.

the only thing that could have worked was to not let flash expand so much, but flash was making sure nothing of that.

I think Zero lost when he let Flash deny his third so many times. The second time he lost his drone was just sloppy play.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8142 Posts
December 17 2009 11:12 GMT
#919
So far the games have been pretty entertaining. All we need is an upset game to make the crowd angry...

Firefist?
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20667 Posts
December 17 2009 11:12 GMT
#920
3fac +1 tanks are so rape lategame
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