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oatboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States198 Posts
December 15 2009 10:33 GMT
#221
Hogil played well but Sangho just sucks
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
December 15 2009 10:33 GMT
#222
On December 15 2009 19:29 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
hello im sangho, i produce big army but i lose because i not want to prevent huge zerg eco


Hey sangho, it's me Hogil. Just wanted to thank you destroying my natural expansion. I needed a good laugh before I completely overran your tiny, yet absurdly expensive army. With love.
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Tianx
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1196 Posts
December 15 2009 10:35 GMT
#223
On December 15 2009 19:31 UGC4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2009 19:26 Oystein wrote:
Hogils ZvP is sooooooooooooooooooooooo good....... Seriously its INSANE.

tbh it was more sangho's aggression that lost him the game rather than hogil doing anything special. if sangho had just contained hogil at 3 bases with his superior army instead of charging for the natural he would have had a nice economic lead to finish him off later from 3 or 4 bases. hogil played well yeah, but sangho lost himself that game


Yeah, but to come back from an advantage like that your opponent has to screw up pretty hard no matter how well you play. Sangho's BO choice payed off but Hogil did exactly what he had to do. In particular Hogil's reaction time on the drone harass and control in the major battles were amazing, and he's definitely the best management-zerg that Hite has ever spawned.
Intrigue: "as i've said to many others your troubles in life may be directly correlated to your dirty protoss icon"
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
December 15 2009 10:36 GMT
#224
On December 15 2009 19:33 Oystein wrote:
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On December 15 2009 19:31 Holgerius wrote:
Hogil is so much better than his stats leads us to believe.

This is so true, as I mentioned on the first page of this thread I honestly believe Hogil have a top 5 at least, maybe even top3 ZvP of everyone, and his ZvT has showed some real promise lately. Its just that his ZvZ is so horrendously bad

And whenever Hite actually sends him out for PL, it ends up being ZvZ. -_-
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
December 15 2009 10:36 GMT
#225
On December 15 2009 19:36 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2009 19:33 Oystein wrote:
On December 15 2009 19:31 Holgerius wrote:
Hogil is so much better than his stats leads us to believe.

This is so true, as I mentioned on the first page of this thread I honestly believe Hogil have a top 5 at least, maybe even top3 ZvP of everyone, and his ZvT has showed some real promise lately. Its just that his ZvZ is so horrendously bad

And whenever Hite actually sends him out for PL, it ends up being ZvZ. -_-

Savior...;;
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Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
December 15 2009 10:37 GMT
#226
On December 15 2009 19:36 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2009 19:33 Oystein wrote:
On December 15 2009 19:31 Holgerius wrote:
Hogil is so much better than his stats leads us to believe.

This is so true, as I mentioned on the first page of this thread I honestly believe Hogil have a top 5 at least, maybe even top3 ZvP of everyone, and his ZvT has showed some real promise lately. Its just that his ZvZ is so horrendously bad

And whenever Hite actually sends him out for PL, it ends up being ZvZ. -_-

yup that`s the real sad part, especially since I have him on my FPL team hoping he can get ZvPs
God Hates a Coward
Tianx
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1196 Posts
December 15 2009 10:39 GMT
#227
Also I think that's the first time I've seen a protoss bust into a zerg's natural, kill the hatchery, and still come out behind from the exchange in a progame. That and the lolreaversplosion were so bad by Sangho.
Intrigue: "as i've said to many others your troubles in life may be directly correlated to your dirty protoss icon"
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
December 15 2009 10:39 GMT
#228
wat da hell r u guys talking about, how can hogil have top 5 zvp when hes untested like you said?

I dunno why sangho's play varies SO widely from absolutely pitts to deliciously awesome. you lost this game sangho, it was yours to lose
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Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
December 15 2009 10:41 GMT
#229
On December 15 2009 19:35 Tianx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2009 19:31 UGC4 wrote:
On December 15 2009 19:26 Oystein wrote:
Hogils ZvP is sooooooooooooooooooooooo good....... Seriously its INSANE.

tbh it was more sangho's aggression that lost him the game rather than hogil doing anything special. if sangho had just contained hogil at 3 bases with his superior army instead of charging for the natural he would have had a nice economic lead to finish him off later from 3 or 4 bases. hogil played well yeah, but sangho lost himself that game


Yeah, but to come back from an advantage like that your opponent has to screw up pretty hard no matter how well you play. Sangho's BO choice payed off but Hogil did exactly what he had to do. In particular Hogil's reaction time on the drone harass and control in the major battles were amazing, and he's definitely the best management-zerg that Hite has ever spawned.

I don`t know I would have to rewatch the game again, but from the looks of it Sangho was mined out at both his nat and main and Hogil had done a good job at denying him a 3rd and a 4th later, so it was not like he could just sit back and play 1 base vs 4 bases with hive tech, he had to try to finish hogil of before he got his entire side of the map. So in reality I don`t think he was that far ahead when he did his big attack. And as you mentioned Hogils harass reactions was flawless and his control in the major battles was SICK, just a perfect management game.
God Hates a Coward
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 15 2009 10:42 GMT
#230
perfect fantasy results so far zomgggg
RIP Aaliyah
Anduril
Profile Joined May 2009
United States248 Posts
December 15 2009 10:44 GMT
#231
I thought Sangho was playing well until he got trigger happy. He was not forcing anything,just poking around looking for opportunities. His zealot army also did way more damage than it should have by taking down two hatches, but he went for the kill, failed, lost composure and eventually lost the game. Hogil defense was spectacular as was his overall battle control.
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
December 15 2009 10:44 GMT
#232
match starts.
seiya at 8
leta at 12
You have the power to create your own destiny.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
December 15 2009 10:45 GMT
#233
kingdom sounds really happy to talk about his girlfriend, been mentioning her everyday lol
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-15 10:46:49
December 15 2009 10:46 GMT
#234
leta 12cc
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Tianx
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1196 Posts
December 15 2009 10:46 GMT
#235
On December 15 2009 19:44 gemini24 wrote:
I thought Sangho was playing well until he got trigger happy. He was not forcing anything,just poking around looking for opportunities. His zealot army also did way more damage than it should have by taking down two hatches, but he went for the kill, failed, lost composure and eventually lost the game. Hogil defense was spectacular as was his overall battle control.


Trading his entire zealot/goon army for two hatcheries was not at all in his favor, he hardly killed any drones the entire game. I'm no ZvP expert, but it looked to me like Hogil just threw up both hatcheries again immediately and was less behind after that. Particularly, just losing an entire control group of zealots after they had done the damage in the nat was huge.
Intrigue: "as i've said to many others your troubles in life may be directly correlated to your dirty protoss icon"
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
December 15 2009 10:47 GMT
#236
leta's expanding while seiya's teching.
You have the power to create your own destiny.
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
December 15 2009 10:48 GMT
#237
LOL leta's getting a bunker.
You have the power to create your own destiny.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
December 15 2009 10:48 GMT
#238
On December 15 2009 19:39 .risingdragoon wrote:
wat da hell r u guys talking about, how can hogil have top 5 zvp when hes untested like you said?

I dunno why sangho's play varies SO widely from absolutely pitts to deliciously awesome. you lost this game sangho, it was yours to lose

Untested? Hes played vs several of the best PvZ players, hes raped Stork, hes raped Free hes sitting at a 70% winrate ZvP now and have raped ZvP in the off line qualifiers. Not to mention you could do the most logical way of deciding it by actually WATCH his games and determine that the guy has a superb ZvP. If you can`t see this from his 10 last televised ZvP then I worry for your understanding of this game.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
December 15 2009 10:51 GMT
#239
gg as contain fails
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Tianx
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1196 Posts
December 15 2009 10:51 GMT
#240
Leta hoooooooooooooooolds against the 2fac! Quick gg from Really.
Intrigue: "as i've said to many others your troubles in life may be directly correlated to your dirty protoss icon"
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