EPT[SPL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 - Page 45
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GW.Methos
United States249 Posts
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
The best games for me were the Stork PvP matches. Most PvP usually have players just holding position outside of their opponent's base or high terrain, but Stork's play is different. Stork's multitasking was insane. He was attacking all over the map constantly. In the same night Stork defeated 2 of the greatest PvP players. Best use to be #1 PvP in the league while Bisu is the more recent. Given that the last match was on Match Point, I guess that SKT1 was going to send Bisu. Sending Fantasy would be suicide since Samsung not only have 2 of the best protoss, but also the best terran killers. So it was either Stork or Jangbi. Stork is a better choice than Jangbi because Stork makes better decisions during the match whereas Jangbi goes on autopilot then get flustered if the opponent does something unorthodox. | ||
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Gangrel
United States137 Posts
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
And against 2 of the strongest P's in history, thats saying something It seemed as if Bisu and Stork had switched playing styles with Bisu landlocked and focusing on a large ground army and Stork concentrating on his harrassment But game 3 Bisu vs TurN was a great game. Its a testament to Bisu's unwavering will to win and the emergance of TurN as the next terran on KHAN. I hope Bisu will kick out of his weird funk and get back on his high horse as the king of toss | ||
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lyhb
Canada208 Posts
people were saying stork has the osl... well thats because he did not go through shine in round of 16 (32?) bisu would never get raped as bad as stork in that game | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
On December 18 2009 20:50 lyhb wrote: again proves my point that bisu is still the supreme protoss people were saying stork has the osl... well thats because he did not go through shine in round of 16 (32?) bisu would never get raped as bad as stork in that game considering most of Bisu's recent losses are cause he doesnt get enough Defense versus mutas, I'd have to disagree with you there | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
 A very, very, very successfull troll. | ||
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lyhb
Canada208 Posts
On December 18 2009 21:23 Holgerius wrote: lyhb is a troll. i get that a lot from members with the khan symbol... they always gang up on me :d | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13051 Posts
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
On December 18 2009 21:25 lyhb wrote: i get that a lot from members with the khan symbol... they always gang up on me :d guess what, I have 1 T1 symbol and i agree with him, as does a majority of TL | ||
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
The thread is here to discuss this series of games so people need to stop saying it should die. By the way I think Stork/Bisu are actually on equal playing fields... their strengths are too different to really say for sure who is the 'better' player. Stork is definitely PLAYING better right now, there's no doubt about that (well, after watching him vs Shine today I'm kind of doubting things) but that doesn't really mean that he's a better player than Bisu. They both have choked and have lost games against bad players and seen ups and downs. A three-week period of time can be no indication of skill o_O | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
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lyhb
Canada208 Posts
On December 18 2009 21:50 LordWeird wrote: Just because everyone (myself included) disagree with him, doesn't mean he deserves a ban. I don't think he's really broken any rules. Of course it's at the discretion of the MODERATORS and there is no doubt they have seen this thread so if he isn't banned already then just shut the fuck up and ignore him or continue to discuss things with him. The thread is here to discuss this series of games so people need to stop saying it should die. By the way I think Stork/Bisu are actually on equal playing fields... their strengths are too different to really say for sure who is the 'better' player. Stork is definitely PLAYING better right now, there's no doubt about that (well, after watching him vs Shine today I'm kind of doubting things) but that doesn't really mean that he's a better player than Bisu. They both have choked and have lost games against bad players and seen ups and downs. A three-week period of time can be no indication of skill o_O im trying to discuss and all i get in return are agressive/sarcastic remarks... i just feel that bisu is still the best protoss, is it a crime to think that way? i dont get why people dont think that is a valid argument and get so pissy about it even shine mentioned in the interview after stomping sotrk that he got lucky againts bisu and still think that he is the best protoss/pvz'er... get it a programmer thinks bisu is better and more of a threat than stork | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 19 2009 02:19 lyhb wrote: im trying to discuss and all i get in return are agressive/sarcastic remarks... i just feel that bisu is still the best protoss, is it a crime to think that way? i dont get why people dont think that is a valid argument and get so pissy about it even shine mentioned in the interview after stomping sotrk that he got lucky againts bisu and still think that he is the best protoss/pvz'er... get it a programmer thinks bisu is better and more of a threat than stork Your premise is fine. Your reasoning is flawed. Citing statistics that inherently are not equivalent does not prove your point. Assess the quality of the games they've played, and you'll probably get more reasonable debate. Comparing the quality of the Stork v Shine set and Bisu v Shine set might be reasonable. Just make sure you don't get banned for spoiling stuff. | ||
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On December 19 2009 02:19 lyhb wrote: im trying to discuss and all i get in return are agressive/sarcastic remarks... i just feel that bisu is still the best protoss, is it a crime to think that way? i dont get why people dont think that is a valid argument and get so pissy about it even shine mentioned in the interview after stomping sotrk that he got lucky againts bisu and still think that he is the best protoss/pvz'er... get it a programmer thinks bisu is better and more of a threat than stork Maybe because you don't read? Maybe because you haven't watched stork's last 10 games and bisu's last 10 games? Bisu is terrible right now. Hes nowhere near where he was half a year ago. | ||
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On December 19 2009 03:42 MuffinDude wrote: Maybe because you don't read? Maybe because you haven't watched stork's last 10 games and bisu's last 10 games? Bisu is terrible right now. Hes nowhere near where he was half a year ago. Terrible is a rather exaggerated statement. He may be terrible compared to his best, but he is by no means terrible overall. I would still easily put him in the top 5 Protoss players. Keep in mind, even though he is losing to "mediocre Zergs," a lot of Protoss players aren't in much better condition. To say that he is terrible would mean that he is on the same tier as players like Firebathero and Much. And I think that's just way too harsh. | ||
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On December 19 2009 03:47 Kyo Yuy wrote: Terrible is a rather exaggerated statement. He may be terrible compared to his best, but he is by no means terrible overall. I would still easily put him in the top 5 Protoss players. Keep in mind, even though he is losing to "mediocre Zergs," a lot of Protoss players aren't in much better condition. To say that he is terrible would mean that he is on the same tier as players like Firebathero and Much. And I think that's just way too harsh. He is terrible compared to his old standards. He used to be so imba. Now hes just any other protoss. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 19 2009 04:02 MuffinDude wrote: He is terrible compared to his old standards. He used to be so imba. Now hes just any other protoss. I don't think terrible is the right word to use here. Inconsistent would be more appropriate. Terrible, to me, seems to say that he's incapable of producing good games, which, as has been shown, is not true. He's perfectly capable of playing better than anyone else, he's just equally capable of losing to trash players. | ||
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lyhb
Canada208 Posts
he stomped roro in ace as well bisu is still the best protoss, i rest my case | ||
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