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On December 15 2009 07:57 De4ngus wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2009 07:40 SuperArc wrote:On December 15 2009 07:24 OneOther wrote:On December 15 2009 03:05 On_Slaught wrote: He beat Best and Bisu in one night. That is as impressive as it gets in PvP. In fairness, Best's PvP hasn't been that good for a while, and Bisu's play has been pretty questionable in the last 2 weeks. in all fairlness, give the man credit where it's deserved. beating best and bisu on the same night IS as impressive it gets in PvP, considering those three are still arguably top three in the matchup. While it is very impressive indeed, Best is nowhere top3 in PvP anymore. Are you kidding me? Then who else would be the third person in top 3?
Actually he's right... in terms of ELO, shuttle and horang2 are ahead of Best. He's like number 7 or 8 for PvP right now...
The top 3 are bork and kal followed closely by violet
I would put movie a bit higher or at the same level as Best too considering he beat Stork in a pvp recently.
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DoctorHelvetica called it, as expected Stork vs. Bisu was amazing. Sure it was looking to be pretty one-sided after Stork's blind BO counter of Bisu's DTs, but his subsequent shuttlefail made it look like a good game...
Then slowly but surely, Stork pulled all kinds of shit to pile up an advantage.It wasn't the methodical army dancing I usually expect to see in a high-level PvP... No, splinters of zealots suiciding here and there. Manly templar drops... it was dirty, it was rough, but it was amazing!
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Does anyone have links to VODs for these games? I haven't been able to find them on Jon747. Thanks.
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On December 15 2009 08:11 lone_hydra wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2009 07:57 De4ngus wrote:On December 15 2009 07:40 SuperArc wrote:On December 15 2009 07:24 OneOther wrote:On December 15 2009 03:05 On_Slaught wrote: He beat Best and Bisu in one night. That is as impressive as it gets in PvP. In fairness, Best's PvP hasn't been that good for a while, and Bisu's play has been pretty questionable in the last 2 weeks. in all fairlness, give the man credit where it's deserved. beating best and bisu on the same night IS as impressive it gets in PvP, considering those three are still arguably top three in the matchup. While it is very impressive indeed, Best is nowhere top3 in PvP anymore. Are you kidding me? Then who else would be the third person in top 3? Actually he's right... in terms of ELO, shuttle and horang2 are ahead of Best. He's like number 7 or 8 for PvP right now... The top 3 are bork and kal followed closely by violet I would put movie a bit higher or at the same level as Best too considering he beat Stork in a pvp recently. kal is not top 3 pvp. also, ELO is a terrible measurement considering horang2 and shuttle have played like 10 games. i would say it's
1) stork 2) bisu 3) best + movie 4) kal
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On December 15 2009 08:18 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2009 08:11 lone_hydra wrote:On December 15 2009 07:57 De4ngus wrote:On December 15 2009 07:40 SuperArc wrote:On December 15 2009 07:24 OneOther wrote:On December 15 2009 03:05 On_Slaught wrote: He beat Best and Bisu in one night. That is as impressive as it gets in PvP. In fairness, Best's PvP hasn't been that good for a while, and Bisu's play has been pretty questionable in the last 2 weeks. in all fairlness, give the man credit where it's deserved. beating best and bisu on the same night IS as impressive it gets in PvP, considering those three are still arguably top three in the matchup. While it is very impressive indeed, Best is nowhere top3 in PvP anymore. Are you kidding me? Then who else would be the third person in top 3? Actually he's right... in terms of ELO, shuttle and horang2 are ahead of Best. He's like number 7 or 8 for PvP right now... The top 3 are bork and kal followed closely by violet I would put movie a bit higher or at the same level as Best too considering he beat Stork in a pvp recently. kal is not top 3 pvp. also, ELO is a terrible measurement considering horang2 and shuttle have played like 10 games. i would say it's 1) stork 2) bisu 3) best + movie 4) kal
I have to horribly disagree with you on putting kal below best. You must not have watched Kal's recent PvPs vs Stork and Gosl[flying]. He showed Gosl whats what and he had a very tight game vs. Stork where as Stork just dismembered Best. based on recent games, there is no way you can support best's pvp>Kal.
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you guys forget jangbi............
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On December 15 2009 08:18 OneOther wrote: 1) stork 2) bisu 3) best + movie 4) kal That's being VERY generous to Best. Look at his PvP record. The last time he beat anyone notable was Stork, EIGHT months ago. In all of 2009 he's gone 4-8, with that win against Stork being the only really noteworthy win.
While an 8-8 record in 2009 doesn't look stellar for Movie, he's won 7 of his last 8. Certainly at least in current form, Movie is better than Best by quite a bit.
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On December 15 2009 08:24 syndromepdp wrote: you guys forget jangbi............
And Violet
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On December 15 2009 08:24 syndromepdp wrote: you guys forget jangbi............ He had the #2 pvp with stork a while back, until he started slumping.
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Might wanna give some credit to Violet's PvP. 68% winrate and, since his break out, has only lost 2 games -- one to Movie who he's also beaten before, and one to Guemchi's DTs.
He doesn't play the dragons very often but he also has that one dominating win over PvP godmode Bisu which only Stork seemed able to crack as well.
/ktfanboy
edit-- Beaten
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anyone know where to find VODs? jon747 doesnt have them yet
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Turn is very impressive. I want to see how good he is at T v T
Good night for me - Stork winning twice landed me a ton of points =)
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Wow just watched turn vs Bisu on wfbrood and damn how was he able to do that attack? Skipped a bit of the start of the match, so I assume no ebay, academy, but did he also cut scvs in order to do that attack?
That was just sick game, if Turn had won the game then it would have been perfect. Though a come back is exciting too. I'm really glad it was in the recommended games.
The Bisu vs Stork game was also great, Stork's zealots were all over the place.
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the best protoss right now is bisu
no clue why people are hyping stork so much...
and dont call me a stork hater, i like stork more than bisu. actually i dont even like bisu
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On December 15 2009 13:54 lyhb wrote: the best protoss right now is bisu
no clue why people are hyping stork so much...
and dont call me a stork hater, i like stork more than bisu. actually i dont even like bisu
Because Stork is currently looking better than Bisu in all 3 matchups.
Also Stork is currently in one more starleague than Bisu.
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You're not a Stork hater, but you are either bad at evaluating skill or don't watch enough Starcraft to be able to make a good evaluation.
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On December 15 2009 14:02 Elyvilon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2009 13:54 lyhb wrote: the best protoss right now is bisu
no clue why people are hyping stork so much...
and dont call me a stork hater, i like stork more than bisu. actually i dont even like bisu
Because Stork is currently looking better than Bisu in all 3 matchups. Also Stork is currently in one more starleague than Bisu.
bisu: 6-4 last 10 games
stork: 5-5 last 10 games
looking better? lmao! man, these dickriders crack me up
well shine knocked out bisu... if stork wins the set then you can bump the post but for now 'plsssss'
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On December 15 2009 14:16 Avidkeystamper wrote: You're not a Stork hater, but you are either bad at evaluating skill or don't watch enough Starcraft to be able to make a good evaluation.
read my post above then be quite
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