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Valhalla18444 Posts
On December 14 2009 19:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i know HyuN made the right decision and played it safe but watching how well flash compared to his army compared to HyuN made him look pretty unimpressive
I still give him credit for the win, Flash made clear mistakes in the early game and lost in a fair match.
if that's "unimpressive" to you then this game is pretty much just shooting over your head. flash's unit control looked great because he was always controlling his units. he was always controlling his units because hyun had a massive economical advantage and every marine is important. hyun's best move at that point is to force flash to micro his ass off until the money runs out. unit control is an afterthought. you think zerglings matter in that situation?
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12nex cross map
:/
Violet wins
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On December 14 2009 19:16 meeple wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2009 19:14 Jakalo wrote:On December 14 2009 19:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On December 14 2009 19:11 meegrean wrote:
FLASH I ARE SO DISAPPOINTED IN YOU RIGHT NOW.
oh well, hyun played well anyway. not really he pretty much just built units and a-moved Mutalisk harrass was top notch While that's true... that's pretty much the only part of his play that was awesome. He suicided scourge like crazy and konga-lined lings. But he had so many bases that he could just throw them away and still win.
Thats all true but when you have such an advantage all you really need is macro.
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On December 14 2009 19:23 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2009 19:21 MrHoon wrote:
It's been a while since I saw so many KT fans not rage after flash lost
yay <3 I think people respect Hyun more than most non-JD zergs, at least, they should. Can you imagine the general outrage if it were Juni, Odin, or Hyuk that ended Flash's streak? That'd just be funny.
Hey, don't hate on Hyuk >O
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12 nexus.. cross positions... arbitor tech incoming (crazy prediction I know)
I think Violet has this :D
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Im still in awe from Flashs late game, seriously that was fucking TvZ perfection, perfect unit movements and vessel usage....
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On December 14 2009 19:25 topspinserve wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2009 19:23 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On December 14 2009 19:21 MrHoon wrote:
It's been a while since I saw so many KT fans not rage after flash lost
yay <3 I think people respect Hyun more than most non-JD zergs, at least, they should. Can you imagine the general outrage if it were Juni, Odin, or Hyuk that ended Flash's streak? That'd just be funny. Hey, don't hate on Hyuk >O
Hyuk's ZvT is funny. The bad kind of funny.
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On December 14 2009 19:22 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2009 19:20 Tianx wrote:
Hyun played safe and didn't throw it away, sealing the lategame victory. His decisionmaking that game really shouldn't be underestimated. Is it really safe to go into lategame against a player who has better mechanics and superior multitasking? If you can end it early? I guess not T_T
Actually, the last 5 or 6 TvZs has been his opponents trying ridiculous nonstandard builds and Flash punished them for it. So yes, late game would be a better option based on history.
Hyun did an excellent job of studying Flash's build because every other zerg failed at it. Go back and watch all the latest Flash TvZ. he never puts turrets in main. He sticks a few on the outskirts, but never one protecting main min line. too overconfident with m and m i guess and he paid dearly for his overconfidence in his micro once again.
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Okay
Violet cross map 12nex + Sea scouting LAST
This is over 
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Sea doing some sort of weird zigzag scouting... perhaps for proxies??
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
it's the white dood with the camera again
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rofl female announcer orgasming over french cameraman
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On December 14 2009 19:25 topspinserve wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2009 19:23 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On December 14 2009 19:21 MrHoon wrote:
It's been a while since I saw so many KT fans not rage after flash lost
yay <3 I think people respect Hyun more than most non-JD zergs, at least, they should. Can you imagine the general outrage if it were Juni, Odin, or Hyuk that ended Flash's streak? That'd just be funny. Hey, don't hate on Hyuk >O
The commonality between the three zergs I listed is that their ZvT's are absolutely the WORST in the game, was not a general jab at poor Hyuk.
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when it shows the white dood she says "hello..." lol and who is the female caster, is it that seo rim person or whatever?
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USE YOUR ADVANTAGE WISELY, VIOLET
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On December 14 2009 19:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2009 19:22 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On December 14 2009 19:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On December 14 2009 19:16 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
And now the jackasses swoop in to devalue Hyun's play and blab on about turrets. Just accept that it was a good game. it was a great game but HyuN didn't really do well in the mid/lategame. he pretty much jsut a-moved and lost incredible amounts of units due to having awful control you're totally misreading the game. with that many hatcheries and a significant lead over a player of flash's calibur that is EXACTLY how you play it out. you multitask your ass off to get all your larva turned into units and you just grind out the win. match point is not the sort of map you seem to think it is, if you think about these things at all  i know HyuN made the right decision and played it safe but watching how well flash compared to his army compared to HyuN made him look pretty unimpressive I still give him credit for the win, Flash made clear mistakes in the early game and lost in a fair match.
i dont understand how anyone can be expected to have multitask so perfect that he can have perfect scourgeling defense against drops, lurk/sunk/sporing up expansions, spread units for vision, 6 base macro, and perfect consume/swarm battle micro
hyun's micro was more than impressive, you can't criticize him for not having 600 apm multitask
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On December 14 2009 19:22 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2009 19:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On December 14 2009 19:16 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
And now the jackasses swoop in to devalue Hyun's play and blab on about turrets. Just accept that it was a good game. it was a great game but HyuN didn't really do well in the mid/lategame. he pretty much jsut a-moved and lost incredible amounts of units due to having awful control you're totally misreading the game. with that many hatcheries and a significant lead over a player of flash's calibur that is EXACTLY how you play it out. you multitask your ass off to get all your larva turned into units and you just grind out the win. match point is not the sort of map you seem to think it is, if you think about these things at all
yeah. the longer hyun lets both their armies build up the worse his advantage will because. making sure he doesn't let flash get a big enough army(including vessel count) where hyuns supply advantage won't be as effective. it's especially important since he was using ultraling(melee) vs SK Terran(range), and unless he would be able to get some sick flanks/swarms off it's easier to just not let flash build up at all.
his actual control could have been better I guess, as in trying to at least flank with the units he did 1a2a3a, but his advantage was strong enough where he didn't even have to do that.
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Violet able to kill a mine with his goons using amazing micro.
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Mismicro by Violet leads to his goon getting hit by mine.
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LOL WTF Violet ate a mine
Did that hit 2 goons + the zeal?
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EPT
