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Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2528 Posts
December 10 2009 01:00 GMT
#441
Damn it. Pure finally beats zero. I'm kind of hoping yarnc wins so we can have a tiebreaker and zero gets another chance to stomp both of these players.
eNoq
Profile Joined June 2009
Netherlands502 Posts
December 10 2009 02:18 GMT
#442
Funny how mOvie been playing really well in most of his games, and Jaedong schools him like no other
Proburu
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
December 10 2009 02:27 GMT
#443
Games are up on Jon747

Jaedong vs Movie


Pure vs Zero


Shine vs Calm


Stork vs Kwanro
POGGERS
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
December 10 2009 03:23 GMT
#444
Oh, man! Effort is out?! That is terrible!

Oh, yeah, before I forget. HELL YEAH, STORK! Dino>Pikachu ftw.
lyhb
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada208 Posts
December 10 2009 05:02 GMT
#445
On December 10 2009 11:18 eNoq wrote:
Funny how mOvie been playing really well in most of his games, and Jaedong schools him like no other




jaedong is very underated these days...


i blame the flashtards



lyhb
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada208 Posts
December 10 2009 05:14 GMT
#446
and people thought movie and jeadong would be epic





all i saw there was epic ownage :d

jd is just gosu
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 10 2009 05:48 GMT
#447
Jaedong isn't underrated. Flash is underrated for sure- I have actually seen people try to make the case that Flash is bad or that he is not innovative.

Which is like saying Jaedong has bad muta micro
RIP Aaliyah
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
December 10 2009 07:55 GMT
#448
On December 10 2009 07:59 NguN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 06:01 TDK wrote:
JAEDONG and FLASH finals seems more and more likely now. Those two seem invincible


Stork. Still regarded as the best PvT out there, and he was soooo close to taking down Jaedong in WCG. This is Stork's OSL to win.


Amen to that.

Stork HAD that first game at WCG. He killed like a million drones! But it didn't work out for him that time.

Stork is playing awesome now, but I dont want to get too excited. After all, Canata and Hero knocked him and Movie out of the MSL. I really hope Stork goes far. . . He does play his best against S-class players, so the Ro8 will be epic. Cant wait for the Ro8 matches to be announced!!
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-10 09:02:48
December 10 2009 09:01 GMT
#449
Watching these VODs taught me 3 things:

1. Pure has regained his vZ play... and then some!
2. Stork is becoming more awesome by the day. God, have I longed for a progamer who laughs/smiles during games!
3. Kwanro makes me think of one very harry-potterish word: "Slytherin". To me he looks like the exact mental image I have of a Slytherin-child. Wormy, sneaky, little creature who's all trick and no straight up play.

edit: damn I made a TL post on my bday.. the shame :/
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
December 10 2009 22:31 GMT
#450
looks like Jaedong and Stork will advance comfortably into the OSL semi's or at least finals
very nice
cw)minsean(ru
lyhb
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada208 Posts
December 11 2009 01:14 GMT
#451
On December 10 2009 14:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Jaedong isn't underrated. Flash is underrated for sure- I have actually seen people try to make the case that Flash is bad or that he is not innovative.

Which is like saying Jaedong has bad muta micro




im talking about people here in tl in general
lyhb
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada208 Posts
December 11 2009 01:16 GMT
#452
On December 09 2009 12:16 AzureEye wrote:
Top 5 Zergs imo (overall skill over recent performance)
1. Jaedong
2. Calm
3. Effort
4. Zero
5. Luxury





how can you have calm over effort and zero?
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
December 11 2009 01:27 GMT
#453
On December 11 2009 10:14 lyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 14:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Jaedong isn't underrated. Flash is underrated for sure- I have actually seen people try to make the case that Flash is bad or that he is not innovative.

Which is like saying Jaedong has bad muta micro




im talking about people here in tl in general


We worship the ground Jaedong stands on...it's just that him doing amazing is nothing new, lately. Flash is on an 18 game TvT streak and 11 game TvZ streak lately, so of course he's getting a lot of attention here lately.

Like Doc said, we still get some people who call Flash a 'boring turtle', which makes me think that they must not have watched basically any of his games this season (especially his TvZ).
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
December 11 2009 01:40 GMT
#454
On December 11 2009 10:14 lyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 14:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Jaedong isn't underrated. Flash is underrated for sure- I have actually seen people try to make the case that Flash is bad or that he is not innovative.

Which is like saying Jaedong has bad muta micro




im talking about people here in tl in general


No, everyone knows Jaedong is still the top zerg and the best player. He's just looking mortal becauser JvZ doesn't exist anymore and that's because of all the zergs catching up to him in ZvZ understanding.
lyhb
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada208 Posts
December 11 2009 01:58 GMT
#455
On December 11 2009 10:27 Hinanawi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2009 10:14 lyhb wrote:
On December 10 2009 14:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Jaedong isn't underrated. Flash is underrated for sure- I have actually seen people try to make the case that Flash is bad or that he is not innovative.

Which is like saying Jaedong has bad muta micro




im talking about people here in tl in general


We worship the ground Jaedong stands on...it's just that him doing amazing is nothing new, lately. Flash is on an 18 game TvT streak and 11 game TvZ streak lately, so of course he's getting a lot of attention here lately.

Like Doc said, we still get some people who call Flash a 'boring turtle', which makes me think that they must not have watched basically any of his games this season (especially his TvZ).



imo flashes streak of late isnt legit and should not be regarded the way some people... most of his win streaks are from pl, always matched with b class terrans and zergs... when he faces s class he loses (best/stork)


i mean flash is very good i get that but i dont think he is better than jaedong like people here make it out to be


jaedong beat bisu/stork in b03 and also beat kal/movie 4 s class players... also beat canata a very good tvz'er and stats a very solid pvz'er

jaedong zvz i think is transitioning to a comfort zone with all the new zergs coming into the scene.... once he is done with that, his 'slump' would be over



people say that flash is playing the best sc right now but i beg to differ


p53
Profile Joined September 2009
297 Posts
December 11 2009 02:11 GMT
#456
Thank goodness Calm won/
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-11 02:32:45
December 11 2009 02:18 GMT
#457
On December 11 2009 10:58 lyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2009 10:27 Hinanawi wrote:
On December 11 2009 10:14 lyhb wrote:
On December 10 2009 14:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Jaedong isn't underrated. Flash is underrated for sure- I have actually seen people try to make the case that Flash is bad or that he is not innovative.

Which is like saying Jaedong has bad muta micro




im talking about people here in tl in general


We worship the ground Jaedong stands on...it's just that him doing amazing is nothing new, lately. Flash is on an 18 game TvT streak and 11 game TvZ streak lately, so of course he's getting a lot of attention here lately.

Like Doc said, we still get some people who call Flash a 'boring turtle', which makes me think that they must not have watched basically any of his games this season (especially his TvZ).



imo flashes streak of late isnt legit and should not be regarded the way some people... most of his win streaks are from pl, always matched with b class terrans and zergs... when he faces s class he loses (best/stork)


i mean flash is very good i get that but i dont think he is better than jaedong like people here make it out to be


jaedong beat bisu/stork in b03 and also beat kal/movie 4 s class players... also beat canata a very good tvz'er and stats a very solid pvz'er

jaedong zvz i think is transitioning to a comfort zone with all the new zergs coming into the scene.... once he is done with that, his 'slump' would be over



people say that flash is playing the best sc right now but i beg to differ




You're right, Flash was playing his best during the 08 Bacchus OSL period. When he went through Bisu 3-2, Jaedong 3-1, then demolished Stork 3-0 in under 50 minutes.

Flash's TvP looks weak because of everyone has adapted to him just like all of the zergs now know as much as Jaedong about ZvZ - that is the power of replays and VODs. There was period where Flash rolled protoss players left and right and was pretty much the only terran who could win on Katrina and Medusa.

Stats is not a good PvZer. There is no proof of his PvZ skill besides the two games against July, which only shows why July is never in STX's proleague lineup not Stat's PvZ skill.

Always matched with B Class terrans and Zergs? You just hate Flash, just admit it. His TvZ streak are against "nobodies" but his TvT streak is very legit. The only terran he hasn't run through is Sea.
lyhb
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada208 Posts
December 11 2009 03:11 GMT
#458
On December 11 2009 11:18 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2009 10:58 lyhb wrote:
On December 11 2009 10:27 Hinanawi wrote:
On December 11 2009 10:14 lyhb wrote:
On December 10 2009 14:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Jaedong isn't underrated. Flash is underrated for sure- I have actually seen people try to make the case that Flash is bad or that he is not innovative.

Which is like saying Jaedong has bad muta micro




im talking about people here in tl in general


We worship the ground Jaedong stands on...it's just that him doing amazing is nothing new, lately. Flash is on an 18 game TvT streak and 11 game TvZ streak lately, so of course he's getting a lot of attention here lately.

Like Doc said, we still get some people who call Flash a 'boring turtle', which makes me think that they must not have watched basically any of his games this season (especially his TvZ).



imo flashes streak of late isnt legit and should not be regarded the way some people... most of his win streaks are from pl, always matched with b class terrans and zergs... when he faces s class he loses (best/stork)


i mean flash is very good i get that but i dont think he is better than jaedong like people here make it out to be


jaedong beat bisu/stork in b03 and also beat kal/movie 4 s class players... also beat canata a very good tvz'er and stats a very solid pvz'er

jaedong zvz i think is transitioning to a comfort zone with all the new zergs coming into the scene.... once he is done with that, his 'slump' would be over



people say that flash is playing the best sc right now but i beg to differ




You're right, Flash was playing his best during the 08 Bacchus OSL period. When he went through Bisu 3-2, Jaedong 3-1, then demolished Stork 3-0 in under 50 minutes.

Flash's TvP looks weak because of everyone has adapted to him just like all of the zergs now know as much as Jaedong about ZvZ - that is the power of replays and VODs. There was period where Flash rolled protoss players left and right and was pretty much the only terran who could win on Katrina and Medusa.

Stats is not a good PvZer. There is no proof of his PvZ skill besides the two games against July, which only shows why July is never in STX's proleague lineup not Stat's PvZ skill.

Always matched with B Class terrans and Zergs? You just hate Flash, just admit it. His TvZ streak are against "nobodies" but his TvT streak is very legit. The only terran he hasn't run through is Sea.



its not how many games you win or win streaks... its about the quality and substance of the wins

yes reckon bacchus flash is legit adn back then you could argue that flash is better than jaedong/bisu


and stats is a very good pvz'er... the way he dominated july (someone with a very solid zvp [70% i think])... stats is an up and comer... been watching his plays and the guy has potential to be up there



and i dont hate flash tho it may sound like i do. im actually a big fan, have always been even in his 'rainy' days... until he wins againts people in his level or win individual leagues then we can compare him to jd

his tvt wins are legit but as i said i consider terrans right now to be in low (so in a way its not legit? makes sense?)... exept maybe a couple here and there
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-11 03:21:58
December 11 2009 03:20 GMT
#459
On December 11 2009 12:11 lyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2009 11:18 Womwomwom wrote:
On December 11 2009 10:58 lyhb wrote:
On December 11 2009 10:27 Hinanawi wrote:
On December 11 2009 10:14 lyhb wrote:
On December 10 2009 14:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Jaedong isn't underrated. Flash is underrated for sure- I have actually seen people try to make the case that Flash is bad or that he is not innovative.

Which is like saying Jaedong has bad muta micro




im talking about people here in tl in general


We worship the ground Jaedong stands on...it's just that him doing amazing is nothing new, lately. Flash is on an 18 game TvT streak and 11 game TvZ streak lately, so of course he's getting a lot of attention here lately.

Like Doc said, we still get some people who call Flash a 'boring turtle', which makes me think that they must not have watched basically any of his games this season (especially his TvZ).



imo flashes streak of late isnt legit and should not be regarded the way some people... most of his win streaks are from pl, always matched with b class terrans and zergs... when he faces s class he loses (best/stork)


i mean flash is very good i get that but i dont think he is better than jaedong like people here make it out to be


jaedong beat bisu/stork in b03 and also beat kal/movie 4 s class players... also beat canata a very good tvz'er and stats a very solid pvz'er

jaedong zvz i think is transitioning to a comfort zone with all the new zergs coming into the scene.... once he is done with that, his 'slump' would be over



people say that flash is playing the best sc right now but i beg to differ




You're right, Flash was playing his best during the 08 Bacchus OSL period. When he went through Bisu 3-2, Jaedong 3-1, then demolished Stork 3-0 in under 50 minutes.

Flash's TvP looks weak because of everyone has adapted to him just like all of the zergs now know as much as Jaedong about ZvZ - that is the power of replays and VODs. There was period where Flash rolled protoss players left and right and was pretty much the only terran who could win on Katrina and Medusa.

Stats is not a good PvZer. There is no proof of his PvZ skill besides the two games against July, which only shows why July is never in STX's proleague lineup not Stat's PvZ skill.

Always matched with B Class terrans and Zergs? You just hate Flash, just admit it. His TvZ streak are against "nobodies" but his TvT streak is very legit. The only terran he hasn't run through is Sea.



its not how many games you win or win streaks... its about the quality and substance of the wins

yes reckon bacchus flash is legit adn back then you could argue that flash is better than jaedong/bisu


and stats is a very good pvz'er... the way he dominated july (someone with a very solid zvp [70% i think])... stats is an up and comer... been watching his plays and the guy has potential to be up there



and i dont hate flash tho it may sound like i do. im actually a big fan, have always been even in his 'rainy' days... until he wins againts people in his level or win individual leagues then we can compare him to jd

his tvt wins are legit but as i said i consider terrans right now to be in low (so in a way its not legit? makes sense?)... exept maybe a couple here and there


Stats generally don't mean crap. July's ZvP was terribad in those two games. Did you even watch those games? Its too early to say Stats has good PvZ.
oatboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States198 Posts
December 11 2009 03:27 GMT
#460
On December 11 2009 12:20 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2009 12:11 lyhb wrote:
On December 11 2009 11:18 Womwomwom wrote:
On December 11 2009 10:58 lyhb wrote:
On December 11 2009 10:27 Hinanawi wrote:
On December 11 2009 10:14 lyhb wrote:
On December 10 2009 14:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Jaedong isn't underrated. Flash is underrated for sure- I have actually seen people try to make the case that Flash is bad or that he is not innovative.

Which is like saying Jaedong has bad muta micro




im talking about people here in tl in general


We worship the ground Jaedong stands on...it's just that him doing amazing is nothing new, lately. Flash is on an 18 game TvT streak and 11 game TvZ streak lately, so of course he's getting a lot of attention here lately.

Like Doc said, we still get some people who call Flash a 'boring turtle', which makes me think that they must not have watched basically any of his games this season (especially his TvZ).



imo flashes streak of late isnt legit and should not be regarded the way some people... most of his win streaks are from pl, always matched with b class terrans and zergs... when he faces s class he loses (best/stork)


i mean flash is very good i get that but i dont think he is better than jaedong like people here make it out to be


jaedong beat bisu/stork in b03 and also beat kal/movie 4 s class players... also beat canata a very good tvz'er and stats a very solid pvz'er

jaedong zvz i think is transitioning to a comfort zone with all the new zergs coming into the scene.... once he is done with that, his 'slump' would be over



people say that flash is playing the best sc right now but i beg to differ




You're right, Flash was playing his best during the 08 Bacchus OSL period. When he went through Bisu 3-2, Jaedong 3-1, then demolished Stork 3-0 in under 50 minutes.

Flash's TvP looks weak because of everyone has adapted to him just like all of the zergs now know as much as Jaedong about ZvZ - that is the power of replays and VODs. There was period where Flash rolled protoss players left and right and was pretty much the only terran who could win on Katrina and Medusa.

Stats is not a good PvZer. There is no proof of his PvZ skill besides the two games against July, which only shows why July is never in STX's proleague lineup not Stat's PvZ skill.

Always matched with B Class terrans and Zergs? You just hate Flash, just admit it. His TvZ streak are against "nobodies" but his TvT streak is very legit. The only terran he hasn't run through is Sea.



its not how many games you win or win streaks... its about the quality and substance of the wins

yes reckon bacchus flash is legit adn back then you could argue that flash is better than jaedong/bisu


and stats is a very good pvz'er... the way he dominated july (someone with a very solid zvp [70% i think])... stats is an up and comer... been watching his plays and the guy has potential to be up there



and i dont hate flash tho it may sound like i do. im actually a big fan, have always been even in his 'rainy' days... until he wins againts people in his level or win individual leagues then we can compare him to jd

his tvt wins are legit but as i said i consider terrans right now to be in low (so in a way its not legit? makes sense?)... exept maybe a couple here and there


Stats generally don't mean crap. July's ZvP was terribad in those two games. Did you even watch those games? Its too early to say Stats has good PvZ.


July played horrible that day.
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