• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:05
CET 07:05
KST 15:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
uThermal 2v2 Circuit OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays I would like to say something about StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Empty tournaments section on Liquipedia A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! General RTS Discussion Thread Beyond All Reason Elden Ring Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
GOAT of Goats list
BisuDagger
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1331 users

[SPL] CJ Entus vs KT Rolster - Page 37

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 Next All
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 06 2009 09:08 GMT
#721
CJ ENTUS! Best team ever!!!
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
December 06 2009 10:32 GMT
#722
On December 06 2009 15:05 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 15:04 okum wrote:
On December 06 2009 14:59 Hinanawi wrote:
Can someone clue me in on what (Z)sAviOr was trying to do in the second half of the game? He was throwing down hatcheries everywhere with no defense, did he think they wouldn't be spotted?

He was trying to influence the KT zergs and trick them into playing poorly. It worked.


I prefer the theory that Savior has to lose in order for CJ to win.


cj always uses savior to play the other teams ace's.
they are always avoiding to get their "easy" 3-1 with savior losing against other teams ace.
as long as savior doesnt care about his all-time record being fucked up its a good strategy. savior is team guy, isnt he?
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
December 06 2009 10:57 GMT
#723
On December 06 2009 14:59 Hinanawi wrote:
Oh well, at least Flash didn't lose.

Can someone clue me in on what (Z)sAviOr was trying to do in the second half of the game? He was throwing down hatcheries everywhere with no defense, did he think they wouldn't be spotted?


According to some guy's translations in the livestream, he said that the 9 o'clock hatchery was bait so that flash would not suspect the hidden hatchery at the 6 o'clock. Unfortunately, flash had superstar sense...
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
December 06 2009 10:58 GMT
#724
Props to CJ... Man KT lost the exact same way as last time (R1)....
Be it the ONLY loss for this round!!!
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7941 Posts
December 06 2009 11:07 GMT
#725
Oh god... I had both Violet and KT in my Fantasy.

-4 pts :'-(
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
December 06 2009 12:23 GMT
#726
Oh yeah CJ is back!!! It was really difficult for Savior to beat Flash, actually for anyone, but I´m sure he will win the next game. And yeah, sKyHigh get out of your slump!
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
December 06 2009 13:34 GMT
#727
it takes CJ again to beat KT, almost exactly the same way as last time, Savior losing to Flash ;p
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
December 06 2009 13:43 GMT
#728
On December 06 2009 22:34 pripple wrote:
it takes CJ again to beat KT, almost exactly the same way as last time, Savior losing to Flash ;p


And with Effort, Skyhigh and Movie winning the three CJ games, just in reverse order this time.
If Stats were playing instead of Violet, the same KT players would have lost too.

Next time don't send out Luxury and Firefist versus CJ please.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
December 06 2009 14:18 GMT
#729
On December 06 2009 19:32 Heimatloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 15:05 BlackMagister wrote:
On December 06 2009 15:04 okum wrote:
On December 06 2009 14:59 Hinanawi wrote:
Can someone clue me in on what (Z)sAviOr was trying to do in the second half of the game? He was throwing down hatcheries everywhere with no defense, did he think they wouldn't be spotted?

He was trying to influence the KT zergs and trick them into playing poorly. It worked.


I prefer the theory that Savior has to lose in order for CJ to win.


cj always uses savior to play the other teams ace's.
they are always avoiding to get their "easy" 3-1 with savior losing against other teams ace.
as long as savior doesnt care about his all-time record being fucked up its a good strategy. savior is team guy, isnt he?


it's a good strat and savior sometimes even beats their aces (like when he beated JD). He'll never be the bonwja he used to be but he's still a pretty good player
BW is back
QuanChi
Profile Joined February 2003
Brazil133 Posts
December 06 2009 14:43 GMT
#730
and the disappointing fact is that Luxury practices vs Flash T and show us this poor performance...
Luxury IS the KT zerg...
there and back again
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
December 06 2009 15:24 GMT
#731
On December 06 2009 19:57 chongu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 14:59 Hinanawi wrote:
Oh well, at least Flash didn't lose.

Can someone clue me in on what (Z)sAviOr was trying to do in the second half of the game? He was throwing down hatcheries everywhere with no defense, did he think they wouldn't be spotted?


According to some guy's translations in the livestream, he said that the 9 o'clock hatchery was bait so that flash would not suspect the hidden hatchery at the 6 o'clock. Unfortunately, flash had superstar sense...

?? He didn't know until he was ready to expand and flew his CC over...
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
December 06 2009 15:25 GMT
#732
Bad night for me. I lost all the LB and Fantasy lost while Skyhigh won to hurt my FPL.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 06 2009 15:42 GMT
#733
The theory that savior has to lose for CJ to win....

MAKES PERFECT SENSE
HOLY SHIT

If KT had matched up Luxury with EffOrt, KT wouldve taken this easy. It just happened to work out the wrong way.... T___T
:)
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
December 06 2009 17:24 GMT
#734
On December 07 2009 00:42 synapse wrote:
The theory that savior has to lose for CJ to win....

MAKES PERFECT SENSE
HOLY SHIT

If KT had matched up Luxury with EffOrt, KT wouldve taken this easy. It just happened to work out the wrong way.... T___T


Uh what makes you think that Luxury would have beaten Effort in a ZvZ?
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 06 2009 17:32 GMT
#735
On December 07 2009 02:24 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2009 00:42 synapse wrote:
The theory that savior has to lose for CJ to win....

MAKES PERFECT SENSE
HOLY SHIT

If KT had matched up Luxury with EffOrt, KT wouldve taken this easy. It just happened to work out the wrong way.... T___T


Uh what makes you think that Luxury would have beaten Effort in a ZvZ?

Well, more that it would've given a Violet v. Skyhigh MU. And Flash could take care of Movie.
Jaedong
milkancho
Profile Joined December 2009
Bulgaria4 Posts
December 06 2009 17:38 GMT
#736
As far as i know, the progaming teams pick their players according to the map, then they send the list of players to the SPL. Then their list is matched to the other team's list. So i don't think that they can choose saviour to play vs flash every time. It just happens.
asdasd
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
December 06 2009 18:20 GMT
#737
I wish Violet had won. tt
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
December 06 2009 19:00 GMT
#738
On December 07 2009 02:38 milkancho wrote:
As far as i know, the progaming teams pick their players according to the map, then they send the list of players to the SPL. Then their list is matched to the other team's list. So i don't think that they can choose saviour to play vs flash every time. It just happens.


Well no, but they can try to guess where Flash is going to be sent out. It just so happens that Coach Cho is a genius, and knew exactly where each KT player was going to go- which let him utterly abuse KT for the second straight time.

When (Z)EffOrt, (P)Movie, (T)sKyHigh win, I just feel so damn good.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 06 2009 19:53 GMT
#739
Considering no one really knew (Z)EffOrt, (P)Movie and (T)sKyHigh last year, it's damn scary.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 06 2009 19:56 GMT
#740
On December 07 2009 04:53 SuperArc wrote:
Considering no one really knew (Z)EffOrt, (P)Movie and (T)sKyHigh last year, it's damn scary.

I knew about Effort from one of his Ro128 games during GOM S1. ^ ^ Shameless self-plug.
Jaedong
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 56m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 244
NeuroSwarm 168
StarCraft: Brood War
Zeus 494
Shuttle 72
ZergMaN 49
JulyZerg 42
Bale 13
Icarus 7
NotJumperer 4
Dota 2
XaKoH 391
League of Legends
C9.Mang0592
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King44
Other Games
summit1g9559
JimRising 752
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick31402
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 47
• Kozan
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 101
• Diggity8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2942
League of Legends
• Stunt435
Other Games
• Scarra2811
• Shiphtur324
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 56m
Wardi Open
5h 56m
RotterdaM Event
11h 26m
Patches Events
13h 56m
PiGosaur Cup
18h 56m
OSC
1d 5h
SOOP
1d 21h
OSC
2 days
OSC
3 days
SOOP
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
IPSL
6 days
DragOn vs Sziky
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 21
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.