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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 06 2009 09:08 GMT
#721
CJ ENTUS! Best team ever!!!
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
December 06 2009 10:32 GMT
#722
On December 06 2009 15:05 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 15:04 okum wrote:
On December 06 2009 14:59 Hinanawi wrote:
Can someone clue me in on what (Z)sAviOr was trying to do in the second half of the game? He was throwing down hatcheries everywhere with no defense, did he think they wouldn't be spotted?

He was trying to influence the KT zergs and trick them into playing poorly. It worked.


I prefer the theory that Savior has to lose in order for CJ to win.


cj always uses savior to play the other teams ace's.
they are always avoiding to get their "easy" 3-1 with savior losing against other teams ace.
as long as savior doesnt care about his all-time record being fucked up its a good strategy. savior is team guy, isnt he?
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
December 06 2009 10:57 GMT
#723
On December 06 2009 14:59 Hinanawi wrote:
Oh well, at least Flash didn't lose.

Can someone clue me in on what (Z)sAviOr was trying to do in the second half of the game? He was throwing down hatcheries everywhere with no defense, did he think they wouldn't be spotted?


According to some guy's translations in the livestream, he said that the 9 o'clock hatchery was bait so that flash would not suspect the hidden hatchery at the 6 o'clock. Unfortunately, flash had superstar sense...
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
December 06 2009 10:58 GMT
#724
Props to CJ... Man KT lost the exact same way as last time (R1)....
Be it the ONLY loss for this round!!!
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7917 Posts
December 06 2009 11:07 GMT
#725
Oh god... I had both Violet and KT in my Fantasy.

-4 pts :'-(
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
December 06 2009 12:23 GMT
#726
Oh yeah CJ is back!!! It was really difficult for Savior to beat Flash, actually for anyone, but I´m sure he will win the next game. And yeah, sKyHigh get out of your slump!
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
December 06 2009 13:34 GMT
#727
it takes CJ again to beat KT, almost exactly the same way as last time, Savior losing to Flash ;p
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
December 06 2009 13:43 GMT
#728
On December 06 2009 22:34 pripple wrote:
it takes CJ again to beat KT, almost exactly the same way as last time, Savior losing to Flash ;p


And with Effort, Skyhigh and Movie winning the three CJ games, just in reverse order this time.
If Stats were playing instead of Violet, the same KT players would have lost too.

Next time don't send out Luxury and Firefist versus CJ please.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
December 06 2009 14:18 GMT
#729
On December 06 2009 19:32 Heimatloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 15:05 BlackMagister wrote:
On December 06 2009 15:04 okum wrote:
On December 06 2009 14:59 Hinanawi wrote:
Can someone clue me in on what (Z)sAviOr was trying to do in the second half of the game? He was throwing down hatcheries everywhere with no defense, did he think they wouldn't be spotted?

He was trying to influence the KT zergs and trick them into playing poorly. It worked.


I prefer the theory that Savior has to lose in order for CJ to win.


cj always uses savior to play the other teams ace's.
they are always avoiding to get their "easy" 3-1 with savior losing against other teams ace.
as long as savior doesnt care about his all-time record being fucked up its a good strategy. savior is team guy, isnt he?


it's a good strat and savior sometimes even beats their aces (like when he beated JD). He'll never be the bonwja he used to be but he's still a pretty good player
BW is back
QuanChi
Profile Joined February 2003
Brazil133 Posts
December 06 2009 14:43 GMT
#730
and the disappointing fact is that Luxury practices vs Flash T and show us this poor performance...
Luxury IS the KT zerg...
there and back again
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
December 06 2009 15:24 GMT
#731
On December 06 2009 19:57 chongu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 14:59 Hinanawi wrote:
Oh well, at least Flash didn't lose.

Can someone clue me in on what (Z)sAviOr was trying to do in the second half of the game? He was throwing down hatcheries everywhere with no defense, did he think they wouldn't be spotted?


According to some guy's translations in the livestream, he said that the 9 o'clock hatchery was bait so that flash would not suspect the hidden hatchery at the 6 o'clock. Unfortunately, flash had superstar sense...

?? He didn't know until he was ready to expand and flew his CC over...
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
December 06 2009 15:25 GMT
#732
Bad night for me. I lost all the LB and Fantasy lost while Skyhigh won to hurt my FPL.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 06 2009 15:42 GMT
#733
The theory that savior has to lose for CJ to win....

MAKES PERFECT SENSE
HOLY SHIT

If KT had matched up Luxury with EffOrt, KT wouldve taken this easy. It just happened to work out the wrong way.... T___T
:)
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
December 06 2009 17:24 GMT
#734
On December 07 2009 00:42 synapse wrote:
The theory that savior has to lose for CJ to win....

MAKES PERFECT SENSE
HOLY SHIT

If KT had matched up Luxury with EffOrt, KT wouldve taken this easy. It just happened to work out the wrong way.... T___T


Uh what makes you think that Luxury would have beaten Effort in a ZvZ?
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 06 2009 17:32 GMT
#735
On December 07 2009 02:24 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2009 00:42 synapse wrote:
The theory that savior has to lose for CJ to win....

MAKES PERFECT SENSE
HOLY SHIT

If KT had matched up Luxury with EffOrt, KT wouldve taken this easy. It just happened to work out the wrong way.... T___T


Uh what makes you think that Luxury would have beaten Effort in a ZvZ?

Well, more that it would've given a Violet v. Skyhigh MU. And Flash could take care of Movie.
Jaedong
milkancho
Profile Joined December 2009
Bulgaria4 Posts
December 06 2009 17:38 GMT
#736
As far as i know, the progaming teams pick their players according to the map, then they send the list of players to the SPL. Then their list is matched to the other team's list. So i don't think that they can choose saviour to play vs flash every time. It just happens.
asdasd
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
December 06 2009 18:20 GMT
#737
I wish Violet had won. tt
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
December 06 2009 19:00 GMT
#738
On December 07 2009 02:38 milkancho wrote:
As far as i know, the progaming teams pick their players according to the map, then they send the list of players to the SPL. Then their list is matched to the other team's list. So i don't think that they can choose saviour to play vs flash every time. It just happens.


Well no, but they can try to guess where Flash is going to be sent out. It just so happens that Coach Cho is a genius, and knew exactly where each KT player was going to go- which let him utterly abuse KT for the second straight time.

When (Z)EffOrt, (P)Movie, (T)sKyHigh win, I just feel so damn good.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 06 2009 19:53 GMT
#739
Considering no one really knew (Z)EffOrt, (P)Movie and (T)sKyHigh last year, it's damn scary.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 06 2009 19:56 GMT
#740
On December 07 2009 04:53 SuperArc wrote:
Considering no one really knew (Z)EffOrt, (P)Movie and (T)sKyHigh last year, it's damn scary.

I knew about Effort from one of his Ro128 games during GOM S1. ^ ^ Shameless self-plug.
Jaedong
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