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[SPL] CJ Entus vs KT Rolster - Page 2

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Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
December 05 2009 16:36 GMT
#21
aww yeah no mirrors this is gonna be awesome
Better than Pokebunny
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
December 05 2009 17:05 GMT
#22
if flash knows whats good for him, he would let savior win again.

on the other hand, effort vs violet is going to be epic
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
December 05 2009 17:11 GMT
#23
I see CJ has changed their name to "SUTNE JC"
ModeratorGood content always wins.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 05 2009 17:14 GMT
#24
Your predictions are (Z)Just wrong meeple. I can see (P)Violet and (Z)FireFist drop their games, but (T)sKyHigh>(Z)Luxury!? Are you fucking kidding me!? That's (Z)Just ridiculous, and is not going to happen. And since (T)Flash will pwn (Z)sAviOr, (Accept the truth fanboys.) that will in (P)Best case scenario for CJ equal in a 2-2 situation, whereas KT will simply send out (T)Flash again for the ACE match and win 3-2. Basically, even if CJ plays on the top of their game, it (Z)Just won't be enough. KT is going to win. The (T)Only question is with what numbers.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
December 05 2009 17:15 GMT
#25
On December 06 2009 02:14 HaXXspetten wrote:
Your predictions are (Z)Just wrong meeple. I can see (P)Violet and (Z)FireFist drop their games, but (T)sKyHigh>(Z)Luxury!? Are you fucking kidding me!? That's (Z)Just ridiculous, and is not going to happen. And since (T)Flash will pwn (Z)sAviOr, (Accept the truth fanboys.) that will in (P)Best case scenario for CJ equal in a 2-2 situation, whereas KT will simply send out (T)Flash again for the ACE match and win 3-2. Basically, even if CJ plays on the top of their game, it (Z)Just won't be enough. KT is going to win. The (T)Only question is with what numbers.


Umm no one has actually predicted savior > flash for real yet, stop talking to what you see in your mind and read?
sAviOr...
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
December 05 2009 17:15 GMT
#26
This match needs hype now.

This is going to be amazing. Literally perfect match-ups, with the added storyline of CJ being the only team to roll the rolster last time around.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 17:24:29
December 05 2009 17:21 GMT
#27
On December 06 2009 02:15 Camlito wrote:
Umm no one has actually predicted savior > flash for real yet, stop talking to what you see in your mind and read?


Try reading yourself. (Z)Where did I say that anyone had predicted (Z)sAviOr>(T)Flash? I didn't, but I know that so many people are (Z)sAviOr fanboys, so I (Z)Just pinpointed that out. And besides, THAT was definately NOT the (P)Point of my argument. That game is like the least important of the series.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
December 05 2009 17:24 GMT
#28
(T)Flash will pwn (Z)sAviOr, (Accept the truth fanboys.)


???

No one in this thread has said savior will win. 1 said he HOPES he wins.

What truth do they accept? Are you another anti-fan because you have a secret vendetta against savior fans? So many wish he does good, some predict and go crazy, there is no meaning to the prediction.

I don't see the need for the stab at savior "fanboys" when most accept the truth and all know flash will most likely win?
sAviOr...
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 05 2009 17:28 GMT
#29
On December 06 2009 02:14 HaXXspetten wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Your predictions are (Z)Just wrong meeple. I can see (P)Violet and (Z)FireFist drop their games, but (T)sKyHigh>(Z)Luxury!? Are you fucking kidding me!? That's (Z)Just ridiculous, and is not going to happen. And since (T)Flash will pwn (Z)sAviOr, (Accept the truth fanboys.) that will in (P)Best case scenario for CJ equal in a 2-2 situation, whereas KT will simply send out (T)Flash again for the ACE match and win 3-2. Basically, even if CJ plays on the top of their game, it (Z)Just won't be enough. KT is going to win. The (T)Only question is with what numbers
.


I don't mind you disagreeing with my predictions, but please for sake of everyone who has to read it, don't blindly tlpd'ize your post. Luxury is by no means a sure win... he may be performing better than skyhigh lately, but statistically Skyhigh has better tvz than Luxury has zvt.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 17:33:24
December 05 2009 17:31 GMT
#30
(Z)EffOrt > (P)Violet
Violet's doing good, but the zerg's he's managed to beat are Hyuk and Hyvaa, nothing special, and he lost to Effort 2-0 last time. I can't see Effort losing this as he's been on a Protoss tear.

(Z)sAviOr < Flash
I wish Ma Bonjwa will win, but Flash likely will. Beating Jaedong ZvZ would've been comparable to beating Flash ZvT maybe 3-4 months ago, but right now Flash is in a class of his own.

(P)Movie> (Z)FireFist
Hard to say; Movie's not doing too good against zerg lately, dropping his last 3, but his play is still strong, and his reaver play is still great. Firefist hasn't played too much for round 1, but beat Best and Guemchi in the MSL preseason and beat Movie in the STX Masters. I'm going to have to give this to Movie - it's close, but I think his sair-reaver will win on Outsider even if it's a bit imbalanced.

(T)sKyHigh < Luxury
Luxury hasn't beaten too mant Terrans lately... but Skyhigh is slumping pretty hard.

(Z)EffOrt > (T)Flash
Pure fanboyism.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 05 2009 17:52 GMT
#31
On December 06 2009 02:28 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 02:14 HaXXspetten wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Your predictions are (Z)Just wrong meeple. I can see (P)Violet and (Z)FireFist drop their games, but (T)sKyHigh>(Z)Luxury!? Are you fucking kidding me!? That's (Z)Just ridiculous, and is not going to happen. And since (T)Flash will pwn (Z)sAviOr, (Accept the truth fanboys.) that will in (P)Best case scenario for CJ equal in a 2-2 situation, whereas KT will simply send out (T)Flash again for the ACE match and win 3-2. Basically, even if CJ plays on the top of their game, it (Z)Just won't be enough. KT is going to win. The (T)Only question is with what numbers
.


I don't mind you disagreeing with my predictions, but please for sake of everyone who has to read it, don't blindly tlpd'ize your post. Luxury is by no means a sure win... he may be performing better than skyhigh lately, but statistically Skyhigh has better tvz than Luxury has zvt.

Statistically prediction for the last 10 games is better than overall since Skyhigh has been slumping whole season >_<
Also, I think Violet can if not win then atleast make a very nice game =)

remember fellow KT fans, CJ was the one who broke the KT win streak last time they must not be taken lightly.
also :+ Show Spoiler +
MOTHAFUCKING FLASH FIGHTING!!!!!
In the woods, there lurks..
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
December 05 2009 17:53 GMT
#32
On December 05 2009 23:01 SuperArc wrote:
If (Z)sAviOr beats (T)Flash I will forgive all his failures this year.

Flash has been destroying everyone in 2009, so by transitivity, Savior will make up for all his failures if he wins.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 05 2009 17:53 GMT
#33
Statistically, Skyhigh's bad at TvZ. Wait no, that's just from watching him try to TvZ. And on Tornado? No contest. Not to mention their recent PL forms? It borders on absurdity.
Jaedong
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 05 2009 17:57 GMT
#34
Does anyone know the specific differences between Old Moon Glaive and New Moon Glaive?
Remember Violet.
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
December 05 2009 17:57 GMT
#35
Effort's zvp is much stronger than Violet's pvz.
Flash should rickroll savior, as much as I love the maestro, I don't see it happening.
Out of the remaining two matches, both are pretty much tossups, which means we have a good shot of seeing this go to ace, where KT has a better chance. Nonetheless, should be a good matchup.
more weight
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
December 05 2009 18:01 GMT
#36
On December 06 2009 02:57 alphafuzard wrote:
Effort's zvp is much stronger than Violet's pvz.
Flash should rickroll savior, as much as I love the maestro, I don't see it happening.
Out of the remaining two matches, both are pretty much tossups, which means we have a good shot of seeing this go to ace, where KT has a better chance. Nonetheless, should be a good matchup.


Much stronger?

I don't know about that. I like Effort a lot but Violet has some really good PvZ. To consider it MUCH stronger is a bit of a stretch.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
December 05 2009 18:04 GMT
#37
On December 06 2009 02:53 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2009 23:01 SuperArc wrote:
If (Z)sAviOr beats (T)Flash I will forgive all his failures this year.

Flash has been destroying everyone in 2009, so by transitivity, Savior will make up for all his failures if he wins.
then savior, by the transitive property of ridiculousness, will get good at TvT.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
December 05 2009 18:06 GMT
#38
(Z)EffOrt > (P)Violet
(Z)sAviOr < (T)Flash
(P)Movie < (Z)FireFist
(T)sKyHigh < (Z)Luxury

3-1 KT Rolster
imweakless
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
757 Posts
December 05 2009 18:19 GMT
#39
flash is to hot in his FvZ that even the mighty savior cant handle it.
+ Show Spoiler +
sorry savior
KMK,Qri,GsD#1, UEE,stork jangbi for life!
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
December 05 2009 18:20 GMT
#40
no mirrors and a zerg in every match, yay!


MJY <3
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