[OSL] Ever 2009 OSL - Ro16 - Day 1 - Page 48

On November 25 2009 22:06 LetMeShine wrote:


If those terrans are called FBH or Casy then maybe. Against good terrans like Sea or Light, it would not have any chance of working. Calm's gameplan wasn't bad because he needed to catch up economically and whatnot after he lost the overlords. But the 5 o'clock expo was absolute suicide due to the disparity between the number of terran and zerg ground units...I can't believe he thought it had a chance of working: Fantasy's SCV (who was simply sitting there) saw the two hydralisks and lone drone if I'm not mistaken. The drone massacre during the transfer simply sealed the outcome of the game.

Fantasy had so many units piling outside of Calm's natural that he had to use lurkers to hold a impending break and even then, if Fantasy was daring enough and microed correctly he could probably have taken those lurkers, which had little zergling support. Also the fact Calm had no mutalisks meant that Fantasy could just enter macro mode and completely skip turrets thus saving tons of minerals for tanks, marines, and more barracks.

Fantasy's game, overall, probably required less unit control than Flash's game as there was simply little requirement to as Fantasy played solidly, Calm had no units, was behind the whole game, and made a really, really awful decision which resulted in around 1k minerals lost. Flash's game was even worse, but at least it was laughable because of how quickly Kwanro lost; the Fantasy vs. Calm game was simply a massive disappointment because a good player like Calm completely didn't deliver the goods while Fantasy obviously brought his A game with him.

Seriously people, only the Hwasin vs. Zero game could be considered good to watch and that is not because of Hwasin's overall play but because of Zero's amazing plagues and his comeback. All the other games showed bad play overall by the loser, though Pusan's cheese was kind of cute.

On November 26 2009 05:09 Chen wrote:

ROFL. since when does a sunk break require unit control? did you watch the game at all? A-move the marines at the 1 colony and keep 1 firebat behind the M&M to protect against ling backstab. that level of control should be child's play for any B level ICCUP terran.
Yeah Fantasy had a huge advantage but he still had to deal with swarm and lurkers, which requires something other than A-move.

On November 26 2009 05:40 Uligor wrote:
Why does this (indirect) "Flash vs Fantasy" discussion always have to occur. Both players are insanely awesome, both raped their opponent tonight and they're both friends.

On November 26 2009 06:19 Ace wrote:
its threads like these that make me hate reading LRs. Half of you need to stop trolling the thread with the useless progamer bashing. That shit was funny 2 years ago when a few people did it. Now everyone has a comment. It fucks up the entire thread reading "omg noob zerg!!1111"! for 2 pages straight.

On November 26 2009 05:40 Uligor wrote:
Why does this (indirect) "Flash vs Fantasy" discussion always have to occur. Both players are insanely awesome, both raped their opponent tonight and they're both friends.

On November 26 2009 06:47 yhnmk wrote:
You only say that because you know Flash is a better player than Fantasy. Of course you don't want a discussion you can never win. >.>

let the war continue!

On November 26 2009 07:10 TwoToneTerran wrote:


Flash is a better player than everyone, though.

On November 26 2009 07:19 Holgerius wrote:

Jaedong with the Golden Mouse begs to differ.

On November 26 2009 07:26 Orbifold wrote:


How many OSLs had JD won when he was 17?

On November 26 2009 07:26 Orbifold wrote:


How many OSLs had JD won when he was 17?