If they're going to lock half the pool of players into place they might as well go all the way, eliminate the group selection ceremonies, and do the groups entirely by previous MSL appearances/success. This ceremony is pointless if there's no drama of the big names exchanging smack talk when they move each other into & out of their groups.

Right now who is the most controversial character that isn't locked in a group? Hyuk? He's done a bit of smack talk. But seriously I don't see how anything interesting will come of the steal draft unless someone comes out of nowhere like (Z)

maGma did.

Anyways, I'm sure this will probably make for more interesting tournaments as a whole, instead of having the one or two all T, all Z or mostly P groups, there should be a fairly even mix and late round play will be more interesting in general.

oBlade

United States6255 Posts

November 18 2009 21:49 GMT

#222

Only a quarter of the pool is "locked" - seeds 1-8. 9-16 are placed in groups, but not locked into them. For instance, Bisu is stuck in Group F (can't move himself out of it, but he can trade two people out of it), but sAviOr is NOT stuck in Group F in that he can trade himself out of it.

Waxangel

United States33638 Posts

November 18 2009 22:26 GMT

#223

On November 19 2009 06:49 oBlade wrote:
Only a quarter of the pool is "locked" - seeds 1-8. 9-16 are placed in groups, but not locked into them. For instance, Bisu is stuck in Group F (can't move himself out of it, but he can trade two people out of it), but sAviOr is NOT stuck in Group F in that he can trade himself out of it.

no, 16 players are locked.

Deletrious

United States458 Posts

November 19 2009 00:58 GMT

#224

So we are guaranteed a (Z)

sAviOr v.

Bisu and

EffOrt v.

JangBi? I kind of like the new format, though there is less meaningful Freedom. As a (Z)

July fan, yes he has to play Jaedong, but of the remaining 16 players there aren't many I fear him playing.

Too_MuchZerg

Finland2818 Posts

November 19 2009 01:02 GMT

#225

On November 19 2009 09:58 Deletrious wrote:
So we are guaranteed a (Z)

sAviOr v.

Bisu and

EffOrt v.

JangBi? I kind of like the new format, though there is less meaningful Freedom. As a (Z)

July fan, yes he has to play Jaedong, but of the remaining 16 players there aren't many I fear him playing.

Bisu <map> player xx
player yy <map> Savior
Winners set
losers set
final set

Deletrious

United States458 Posts

November 19 2009 01:06 GMT

#226

On November 19 2009 10:02 Too_MuchZerg wrote:

Show nested quote +

Bisu <map> player xx
player yy <map> Savior
Winners set
losers set
final set

You are right, damn. Sorry for noob confusion.

EvoChamber

France2505 Posts

November 19 2009 01:18 GMT

#227

Flash and Iris in one group =

Scaramanga

Australia8093 Posts

November 19 2009 01:20 GMT

#228

On November 19 2009 10:18 EvoChamber wrote:
Flash and Iris in one group =

Fixed

yhnmk

Canada630 Posts

November 19 2009 01:33 GMT

#229

On November 19 2009 10:06 Deletrious wrote:

Show nested quote +

You are right, damn. Sorry for noob confusion.

Well, we are still practically guaranteed savior vs bisu, considering both are in decent enough form that they can be expected to win.

synapse

China13814 Posts

November 19 2009 01:39 GMT

#230

On November 19 2009 10:20 Scaramanga wrote:

Show nested quote +

Fixed

Flash ez mode

mucker

United States1120 Posts

November 19 2009 01:55 GMT

#231

On November 18 2009 23:08 29 fps wrote:
so MBC just ignored the whole 1-8, then 9-16 in reverse group order (1 + 16, 2 + 15, 3 + 14, etc)?

This is what I'm wondering too, how were the 9-16 players' groups determined?

GGQ

Canada2653 Posts

November 19 2009 03:17 GMT

#232

On November 19 2009 05:43 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
so erm. Jaedong and Bisu finals?

If that happens, I will thank the MBC execs for making this change.

Kyuukyuu

Canada6263 Posts

November 19 2009 04:57 GMT

#233

jd/bisu finals are destined to never occur

doubleupgradeobbies!

Australia1319 Posts

November 19 2009 05:06 GMT

#234

On November 19 2009 13:57 Kyuukyuu wrote:
jd/bisu finals are destined to never occur

And it'd be pretty one sided atm anyway.

sharkeyanti

United States1273 Posts

November 19 2009 05:22 GMT

#235

I'm looking forward to the matchups in the MSL moreso than the OSL right now. Then again there are only 16 people in the OSL at the moment, so.........

Movie v Hyuk finals?

jalstar

United States8198 Posts

November 19 2009 06:02 GMT

#236

we are getting robbed of a flash vs jaedong finals

although they might meet in Ro16 or Ro8

lone_hydra

Canada1460 Posts

November 19 2009 06:21 GMT

#237

On November 19 2009 14:06 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:

Show nested quote +

And it'd be pretty one sided atm anyway.

Damn, I know man.

Bisu would so rape Jaedong

dekuschrub

United States2069 Posts

November 19 2009 06:25 GMT

#238

wtf is this locking shit...

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

November 19 2009 06:35 GMT

#239

It should be that you can move someone from 9-16 rank, but only with another player in that range. would at least make the selection a little more interesting.