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pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
November 14 2009 13:28 GMT
#1481
On November 14 2009 22:02 Baddieko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 21:51 pripple wrote:
hell yeah this Koll guy owns! hopefully we'll get VODs or something of those games aswell.

+ Show Spoiler +
JD 2-0 Bisu, THATS RIGHT! but how did JD drop one against Advokate?



advocate used 2 base mech, turtle and push out to destroy jd hydras and lurkers in tau cross.

ahh i see, thanks!
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
November 14 2009 13:29 GMT
#1482
Will Koll beat Stork? O_o
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
November 14 2009 13:31 GMT
#1483
On November 14 2009 22:29 Mykill wrote:
Will Koll beat Stork? O_o

i doubt it

since they're probably never going to play again
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
November 14 2009 13:34 GMT
#1484
yeah good point.
at least he got third
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
iG.SwOrD
Profile Joined October 2009
Bulgaria183 Posts
November 14 2009 13:37 GMT
#1485
looks like some idra fans (lol) are buttheart that their guru didnt reach semifinals..he lost so he didnt deserve shit to be there jesus christ give some props to kolll
Noodlez
Profile Joined September 2009
32 Posts
November 14 2009 13:38 GMT
#1486
On November 14 2009 22:34 Mykill wrote:
yeah good point.
at least he got third


Um...Bisu got Third, JD and Stork for first and second tomorrow ^^
Mr.Noodlez D Protoss
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
November 14 2009 13:38 GMT
#1487
Whoa, damn @ Fly100% tearing up the competition. Even the Koreans at Starcraft aren't undefeated the entire tournament up until the finals.
Writer
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
November 14 2009 13:44 GMT
#1488
On November 14 2009 22:23 Kaolla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 22:14 Camlito wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:12 iamho wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:10 Camlito wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:07 iamho wrote:
lame that this foreigner ive never heard of gets past idra and top chinese so he can get raped 4-0 by pros in one-sided games


..because you haven't heard of him... doesn't mean shit


that fact that he got destroyed does mean shit. at least someone like pj would put up a decent fight



Erm, a foreigner in his worst matchup vs the 2 best protosses ever... what fucking more do you want from a 14 year old kid?



the fact that it's his worst matchup of a 14 yr old doesnt rly matter here... he's just another semi finalist, so he is expected to play like one, and i think everyone who saw the games must have thought 'OMG how can that guy be in the semi finals'... The games were just that bad... I think most top foreigners would put up a better fight....

He did as well as could be expected by a foreigner vs a top pro =p
Did you see draco's game vs jaedong or dimaga's vs bisu lol? It's not like those were any prettier.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
November 14 2009 13:58 GMT
#1489
damn stork's macro is so strong, after killing 2 drones he can afford a scout knowing its safe anyway. In the end the scout's overperformed its opportunity cost and koll fall far behind.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
November 14 2009 13:58 GMT
#1490
On November 14 2009 22:23 Kaolla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 22:14 Camlito wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:12 iamho wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:10 Camlito wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:07 iamho wrote:
lame that this foreigner ive never heard of gets past idra and top chinese so he can get raped 4-0 by pros in one-sided games


..because you haven't heard of him... doesn't mean shit


that fact that he got destroyed does mean shit. at least someone like pj would put up a decent fight



Erm, a foreigner in his worst matchup vs the 2 best protosses ever... what fucking more do you want from a 14 year old kid?



the fact that it's his worst matchup or 14 yr old doesnt rly matter here... he's just another semi finalist, so he is expected to play like one, and i think everyone who saw the games must have thought 'OMG how can that guy be in the semi finals'... The games were just that bad... I think most top foreigners would put up a better fight....


like.. ret did vs jeadong e.g
hatred outlives the hateful
Noodlez
Profile Joined September 2009
32 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-14 14:01:34
November 14 2009 13:59 GMT
#1491
On November 14 2009 22:44 KlaCkoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 22:23 Kaolla wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:14 Camlito wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:12 iamho wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:10 Camlito wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:07 iamho wrote:
lame that this foreigner ive never heard of gets past idra and top chinese so he can get raped 4-0 by pros in one-sided games


..because you haven't heard of him... doesn't mean shit


that fact that he got destroyed does mean shit. at least someone like pj would put up a decent fight



Erm, a foreigner in his worst matchup vs the 2 best protosses ever... what fucking more do you want from a 14 year old kid?



the fact that it's his worst matchup of a 14 yr old doesnt rly matter here... he's just another semi finalist, so he is expected to play like one, and i think everyone who saw the games must have thought 'OMG how can that guy be in the semi finals'... The games were just that bad... I think most top foreigners would put up a better fight....

He did as well as could be expected by a foreigner vs a top pro =p
Did you see draco's game vs jaedong or dimaga's vs bisu lol? It's not like those were any prettier.


ya but like in game two Bisu had x3 supply count without really doing much except some early zel pressure that Kolll defended against pretty easily, at least Draco and Dimaga we could see them get owned, with kolll it was like he started with a handicap or something. I mean Zerg should have the most units in the game no matter the time right? So how is a Toss able to get x3 supply count without really killing anything early on. Maybe that 2 drone and 2OL is THAT HUGE I donno I'm no pro I'm just some lonely D/D+ Terran. I don't think anyone expected Kolll to beat Bisu but those games were just really below from kolll what everyone thought they were gonna be. Either way BO, nerves, and just plain Bisu are all accounted for and anyone would agree that Kolll kicks ass and is my 2nd favorite foreigner Zerg.
Mr.Noodlez D Protoss
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
November 14 2009 14:00 GMT
#1492
On November 14 2009 22:28 pripple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 22:02 Baddieko wrote:
On November 14 2009 21:51 pripple wrote:
hell yeah this Koll guy owns! hopefully we'll get VODs or something of those games aswell.

+ Show Spoiler +
JD 2-0 Bisu, THATS RIGHT! but how did JD drop one against Advokate?



advocate used 2 base mech, turtle and push out to destroy jd hydras and lurkers in tau cross.

ahh i see, thanks!


wouldnt describe the game like that ...

better check out yourself how advocate managed to destroy jd.

[image loading]
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
November 14 2009 14:02 GMT
#1493
mech is very dangerous against zerg, u know u can beat anyone when u gathered enough of them to push out.
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
November 14 2009 14:14 GMT
#1494
On November 14 2009 22:59 Noodlez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 22:44 KlaCkoN wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:23 Kaolla wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:14 Camlito wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:12 iamho wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:10 Camlito wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:07 iamho wrote:
lame that this foreigner ive never heard of gets past idra and top chinese so he can get raped 4-0 by pros in one-sided games


..because you haven't heard of him... doesn't mean shit


that fact that he got destroyed does mean shit. at least someone like pj would put up a decent fight



Erm, a foreigner in his worst matchup vs the 2 best protosses ever... what fucking more do you want from a 14 year old kid?



the fact that it's his worst matchup of a 14 yr old doesnt rly matter here... he's just another semi finalist, so he is expected to play like one, and i think everyone who saw the games must have thought 'OMG how can that guy be in the semi finals'... The games were just that bad... I think most top foreigners would put up a better fight....

He did as well as could be expected by a foreigner vs a top pro =p
Did you see draco's game vs jaedong or dimaga's vs bisu lol? It's not like those were any prettier.


ya but like in game two Bisu had x3 supply count without really doing much except some early zel pressure that Kolll defended against pretty easily, at least Draco and Dimaga we could see them get owned, with kolll it was like he started with a handicap or something. I mean Zerg should have the most units in the game no matter the time right? So how is a Toss able to get x3 supply count without really killing anything early on. Maybe that 2 drone and 2OL is THAT HUGE I donno I'm no pro I'm just some lonely D/D+ Terran. I don't think anyone expected Kolll to beat Bisu but those games were just really below from kolll what everyone thought they were gonna be. Either way BO, nerves, and just plain Bisu are all accounted for and anyone would agree that Kolll kicks ass and is my 2nd favorite foreigner Zerg.


Even one drone loss is huge for a Zerg because it causes ALL their timings to be off. Everything at the pro level for Zerg is so specific. (e.g. Jaedong's 30 second spire cancel caused him to lose 3 overlords to Bisu, and that cost him the whole game) Not to mention that he lost 3 mining drones by putting down sunkens for a rush that was never coming. Bisu just threw him that far behind by faking a rush and instead planting an expo.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
November 14 2009 14:25 GMT
#1495
The Jaedong/Bisu game was the game of the day. I just can't get over it. Jaedong and his Zerg are so damn strong now. Bisu didn't even get a chance to try out his dark archon build!
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
November 14 2009 14:27 GMT
#1496
btw stork vs. kolll
stork makes the scout look imba. so good ^^

[image loading]
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
November 14 2009 14:33 GMT
#1497
On November 14 2009 23:27 Corvi wrote:
btw stork vs. kolll
stork makes the scout look imba. so good ^^

[image loading]



it all started when koll was distracted by the zealot and did not move his overlord away from stork's base.

Stork killed it plus 2 drones and knew koll's supply and tech's timing is off, therefore can afford to make scout.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 14 2009 14:38 GMT
#1498
On November 14 2009 21:11 Bifur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 20:34 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
the fact that idra was raped by kolll is the best thing that could happen in this wcg. idra must be so pissed right now.


Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 20:53 dibbaN wrote:
koll beating idra is so fucking sick when you think about it


Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 20:57 Baddieko wrote:
all idra's training is useless up to this point, does he even get paid in proteam?

So is stork and jaedongs they dropped a game omg!

so were all those pros(effort/bisu) that got defeated at IEF omgz!

Koll pulled an upset, they happen big fucking deal anti fanboys
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
November 14 2009 14:42 GMT
#1499
On November 14 2009 22:58 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 22:23 Kaolla wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:14 Camlito wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:12 iamho wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:10 Camlito wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:07 iamho wrote:
lame that this foreigner ive never heard of gets past idra and top chinese so he can get raped 4-0 by pros in one-sided games


..because you haven't heard of him... doesn't mean shit


that fact that he got destroyed does mean shit. at least someone like pj would put up a decent fight



Erm, a foreigner in his worst matchup vs the 2 best protosses ever... what fucking more do you want from a 14 year old kid?



the fact that it's his worst matchup or 14 yr old doesnt rly matter here... he's just another semi finalist, so he is expected to play like one, and i think everyone who saw the games must have thought 'OMG how can that guy be in the semi finals'... The games were just that bad... I think most top foreigners would put up a better fight....


like.. ret did vs jeadong e.g

`
ret was inactive at that moment and not a top foreigner... ret vs nada would be more like it, that was when ret was active... draco hasnt been a top foreigner either for a long time so not sure why someone mentioned that...
not sure why you guys defending him so much, i think he should be able to take some criticism and be realistic after all he also was in that being b- in 5 months topic... Have to say i also thought he was a troll so yea thats damn impressive for sure and he's surely one to look out for in the future, but i dont know why ppl are making excuses for the games sucking... it was just a subpar performance and it woulda been more fun if a top foreigner filled the spot instead...
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
November 14 2009 14:45 GMT
#1500
On November 14 2009 23:42 Kaolla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 22:58 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:23 Kaolla wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:14 Camlito wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:12 iamho wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:10 Camlito wrote:
On November 14 2009 22:07 iamho wrote:
lame that this foreigner ive never heard of gets past idra and top chinese so he can get raped 4-0 by pros in one-sided games


..because you haven't heard of him... doesn't mean shit


that fact that he got destroyed does mean shit. at least someone like pj would put up a decent fight



Erm, a foreigner in his worst matchup vs the 2 best protosses ever... what fucking more do you want from a 14 year old kid?



the fact that it's his worst matchup or 14 yr old doesnt rly matter here... he's just another semi finalist, so he is expected to play like one, and i think everyone who saw the games must have thought 'OMG how can that guy be in the semi finals'... The games were just that bad... I think most top foreigners would put up a better fight....


like.. ret did vs jeadong e.g

`
ret was inactive at that moment and not a top foreigner... ret vs nada would be more like it, that was when ret was active... draco hasnt been a top foreigner either for a long time so not sure why someone mentioned that...
not sure why you guys defending him so much, i think he should be able to take some criticism and be realistic after all he also was in that being b- in 5 months topic... Have to say i also thought he was a troll so yea thats damn impressive for sure and he's surely one to look out for in the future, but i dont know why ppl are making excuses for the games sucking... it was just a subpar performance and it woulda been more fun if a top foreigner filled the spot instead...


well the top foreigner you're talking about LOST to koll, why do you think he would have fared better against Stork/Bisu?
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