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On October 28 2009 15:45 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 15:37 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Who was that one notable zerg who could ZvP and ZvZ but not ZvT? He still plays SC right now. Uh... there are a lot of zergs like that. Yarnc is the opposite. July can't zvz. Chojja? Silver? Oh, probably gorush actually.
ZERGMAN!!! khm...63% is good yes? vP he was like 51%. Who cares. But vT he was 35%. But he was retired. ChoJJa was decent againts all, as i remember, as Mr. 50% GGPlay.
But Silver makes the points, be he is retired also. ~60%vZ ~60%vP ~30%vT
Gorush was decent in all MU's (~it's like 50-55%)
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3:0, so raped. And whoa, Jaedong again buttfucked in a ZvZ :D
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On October 28 2009 21:55 Piy wrote:
Maybe now people will finally believe me when I say that Flash has been the best player for the last 2 years...probably not though.
i wouldn't say last 2 years, but i think he definitely's been the best terran, or even player, for a while.
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stop digging up statistics and reasons why JD does not suck atm "hey hes gone 12 hatch" so he picks the wrong strat HIS fault(especially if he does it over and over again on HBR) and things like "815 is good in zvz" or "he won 1 of his last 4 zvz"
PLEASE JD was a monster in zvz he could start 3 mins later than the other guy and play with one hand behind his back and still destroy zergs left and right If kespas number 1 who had around 1000 points more than guys like Bisu and Flash is loosing to ZerO,Hyuk and 815.... I mean come on 815!!! and you still don`t admit that he sucks right now who the hell should beat him that you get it? ..idra? HAHAHA no sorry that was silly
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On October 28 2009 15:37 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Who was that one notable zerg who could ZvP and ZvZ but not ZvT? He still plays SC right now.
oDin.
lol. (YellOw)?
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You people seriously think that one player can win ALL of his games ALL of the time? Lol
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On October 28 2009 11:18 Chen wrote:
Can you guys imagine the absolute devastation in FPL if 815 wins? 400 people who have him on their antis get ninja -4 and the 800 people with JD on their main team go home with nothing.
lol
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This happens every time JD loses a game, especially build order loss which is apparently an even worse way to lose because it shows how much you suck at guessing. If this is anything like last time the posts will go away when JD wins the next OSL. 
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OMG OZ and KHAN are 1-3... I'm a have to quit this whole watching starcraft hobby  .
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first savior, now jaedong... thats the way all big zergs go...
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Out of curiosity, why do you guys think that JD went for something as risky as 12 hatch on a 2 player map? Out of all the BO fails, 12 hatch vs. 9 pool is the only instant loss on a 2 player map. Any other BO, with good micro, it's more than possible to get back.
Is it because JD is lacking confidence in his muta and ling micro and is afraid to play a game without econ advantage?
Or is it because he's too cocky with his drone micro? Or is it because hes on a break and not really taking games seriously right now?
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On October 29 2009 00:10 lone_hydra wrote:
Out of curiosity, why do you guys think that JD went for something as risky as 12 hatch on a 2 player map? Out of all the BO fails, 12 hatch vs. 9 pool is the only instant loss on a 2 player map. Any other BO, with good micro, it's more than possible to get back.
Is it because JD is lacking confidence in his muta and ling micro and is afraid to play a game without econ advantage?
Or is it because he's too cocky with his drone micro? Or is it because hes on a break and not really taking games seriously right now?
you guys with your "seriously" .. thats like when michael schuhmacher didnt win a GP, people would say " he didnt take the race seriously" ..
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On October 28 2009 14:18 Hinanawi wrote:
What a fucking BEAST.
QFT - Flash is best player in the world right now hands down. Amazing amazing play as of late.
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Just watched the last game in this series... so friggin epic... and its too bad about JD... fantasy team fail for me
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I don't really understand all the Jaedong hate to be honest. ZvZ is the craziest mirror, it is the exact opposite of TvT. In ZvZ the first player to make a mistake loses the game, this includes choosing the wrong BO. In TvT there's far more room for error since terran is so defensive. Take Flash v Hiya last night, Flash made an enormous series of mistakes allowing Hiya to push him back to his base, if Flash did that in a ZvZ that would have been game right there. I think this makes what Jaedong accomplished all the more impressive, to master such a matchup. Sure it doesn't seem like JvZ anymore but this doesn't mean he sucks, more like he is mortal. I don't think that I would choose anyone as a favorite over Jaedong in ZvZ, even with his less than stellar performance in it as of late.
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On October 28 2009 21:45 Piste wrote:
Jd is so bad these days ^^
On October 28 2009 22:10 crucifix wrote:
3:0, so raped. And whoa, Jaedong again buttfucked in a ZvZ :D
Its called BO loss
When you play ZvZ, you will understand what rock-paper-scissors mean and how this mirror MU is the most luck-based
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I wish i watched this game, I really hope that flash stays perfect...
and how did JaeDong do against 815? easy win right, does he play FlaSh in the ace?
(lol JD for bonjwa hahahahaha)
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815 won with a 9pool versus 12 hatch BO win on a 2 player map, which was kind of dumb of Jaedong.
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On October 29 2009 00:10 lone_hydra wrote:
Out of curiosity, why do you guys think that JD went for something as risky as 12 hatch on a 2 player map? Out of all the BO fails, 12 hatch vs. 9 pool is the only instant loss on a 2 player map. Any other BO, with good micro, it's more than possible to get back.
Is it because JD is lacking confidence in his muta and ling micro and is afraid to play a game without econ advantage?
Or is it because he's too cocky with his drone micro? Or is it because hes on a break and not really taking games seriously right now?
12hatch and 12pool expand, and overgas are really popular builds on HBR for ZvZ. I guess Jaedong probably thought that 815 would play kinda normal and Jaedong took the risk with the greediest build of the three. 815 guessed correctly that Jaedong would use one of those three builds and went for 9pool. Jaedong also has been using greedy builds a lot in ZvZ the past little while, so 815 probably was confident that Jaedong would use a greedy build this time too.
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