EPTI'm actually protoss player but nowdays I play almost as much TvP TvZ and ZvP and ZvT than protoss.
So can Some good player (like DaZe himself) come here and clear up what that shiftattack actually means.
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Piste
6184 Posts
I'm actually protoss player but nowdays I play almost as much TvP TvZ and ZvP and ZvT than protoss. So can Some good player (like DaZe himself) come here and clear up what that shiftattack actually means. | ||
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ShabZzoY!
Great Britain760 Posts
On July 20 2007 22:18 epidion wrote: Well yeah, obviously. But if you target any Dragoon and he micros it out the same thing will happen. We're talking about having some sense of how a battle is going. I don't shift-click his base, go take a shower and come back, I'm still checking in on the battle. I think its best to only target in VERY small battles (talking 3-5 goons or so) In larger battles formation is key and moving back the goons that are receiving most fire Shift clicking is stupid both for the reasons above and that say if you have exactly 9 goons left then each round of shots will leave 1 goon with like 5 hp and then a whole round of shots will be wasted on it Also this will make your goons walk awkwardly to get in range of the specified target | ||
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istealhotelsoap
United States514 Posts
gogogo zealots~! | ||
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Naib
Hungary4952 Posts
On July 20 2007 13:53 epidion wrote: GrandInquisitor has a good point. I'm not sure that it would mess it up because when I'm observing I usually shift+attack to have them kill each other and it works. But who knows, that might be an issue that they are your SCV's. Since the topic seems to be answered, I have a question. In PvP low-number goon battles, do you target and shift+attack their goons? Let's say you have eight goons versus your opponent's eight. I will usually select all eight, right click one of their goons, then shift+click the rest of them so they always target the same ones and I can go back to macro-ing. If the numbers are larger (like 12) I'll usually do it with groups of six so excess shots aren't wasted. What do you think? Imo, you need to be a quick counter in the head, and calculate how many shots / shot-cycles do you need to melt a target enemy goon with focus-fire. They got 180 hp, so I focus fire with 9, or 5 goons (depending on the size of the battle) Not 8, cause he'll regen 1 hp between the 2 shoot-cycles. This only goes for focusing full-hp goons, you need to keep the shots counting and adjust focus-firing appropiately  | ||
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Lord_of_Chaos
Sweden372 Posts
On July 21 2007 12:26 Naib wrote: Imo, you need to be a quick counter in the head, and calculate how many shots / shot-cycles do you need to melt a target enemy goon with focus-fire. They got 180 hp, so I focus fire with 9, or 5 goons (depending on the size of the battle) Not 8, cause he'll regen 1 hp between the 2 shoot-cycles. This only goes for focusing full-hp goons, you need to keep the shots counting and adjust focus-firing appropiately 9*20=180? and then -1 because of shield regen? So you should use 10 instead, or groups of five to not destroy your formation too much.. Or maybe I'm just so tired my math doesn't even work.. | ||
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LeoTheLion
China958 Posts
what i do is right click on a goon, then hold shift and right click on some more tanks never hit zeals, as long as goons are in range | ||
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Oracle
Canada411 Posts
the allied scv thing has the same effect | ||
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
On July 21 2007 02:00 R_I wrote: umm guys, I think Daze meant shift clicking tanks as in shift deselecting like when splitting your scvs say. Select all your tanks, right click on a goon, then hold shift and click on some of the tank wireframes and then right click on another goon etc. This tactic works pretty damn well No, in fact daze thought me a lot about terran. And i've seen him play numerous times offline, and he does shift-click the goons not shit-deslect his tanks. | ||
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Scorpion
United States1974 Posts
But, if the Toss has carriers or storm, or arbs, or distruption web(rofl?), then gee gee. :D Or at least slow it down so you can mass. | ||
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R_I
New Zealand42 Posts
On July 21 2007 21:52 meRz wrote: No, in fact daze thought me a lot about terran. And i've seen him play numerous times offline, and he does shift-click the goons not shit-deslect his tanks. Oh, alright. In any case, I think it's worth considering de-selecting tanks to attack various goons. I'm decent at it (yay for years of splitting scvs the noob way) and it's worked pretty well for me so far. Tanks don't hit zealots as much and the goons just melt. | ||
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~Legit~
United States408 Posts
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