Tvp help vs 1 gate zeal to 2 gate range goon - Page 2

Reason

United Kingdom2770 Posts

January 03 2007 21:22 GMT

#21

9rax 9supply on luna will give you faster/more marines if he's two gate rushing. "scouting late" is a poor term to use as it may cost you the game... scout earlier, or send two. don't be an idiot.
if you rax standard time 3-4 scv's on ramp in case zeals come, even if you don't scout isn't going to hinder your economy.

so if you don't want to fast rax, or if you don't scout i'd put the scv's there anyway, any zeal rusher will come quickly with his zealots, if you have any idea of timing and you still haven't scouted him and the zealots have still not come, they never will...

DruggedMarine

79 Posts

January 04 2007 06:10 GMT

#22

On January 03 2007 20:00 skyglow1 wrote:

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I didn't make my post clear enough in that topic. The point is the marine can run through the gap while the zealot takes the long way around the buildings. You won't be able to get scv kills because I can shoot at you and if you decide to comes towards me I'll just move towards the gap. If you decide then to go back to the scvs, I'll shoot at you again, and if you decide instead to keep following me and try and attack me, I'll just run past the gap. In this way you can apply basically no damage and my marine is safe.

Only when theres 2 zealots then you can trap the marine so that it cant keep running through the gap. The first zealot can be taken care of quickly. Most of the time the first zealot simply runs away and waits for another zealot in this case.

So if he brings two zealot how do u micro agaisnt that? Also, sometimes when i have more then two marines and I try to send them thru the gap, the first marines might move a little slower casuing the secoond amrine in the back to try to go the other way around the depot or rax causing it to die. Do u use scvs with this build placement while using the gap with the marines or only marines to chase away the first zealot?

Another important question..When faced with a 2 gateway zealot proxy IN YOUR BASE and u KNOW ABOUT IT what is a clear cut way to win that? I did what nada did and sent all my scvs to kill BOTH gateways but he just kept on building more and more pylons/gates inside my base. Then I thought building a bunker by his gate/pylons would win me the game. Huge mistake. He just simply ran around the bunker with the constantly made zealots and started to attack my scvs. Since it's only 4 marines in bunks it would take forever to kill the gate/pylons. What I was thinking was kill the gateways like i did but build the bunker and all my buildings tight so that one bunker can reach everything instead of far away by the gateway/pylons where the zealots would jsut run past it. Then when i have enough marine/vulte/tank force go and and kill the proxies? Would this be the BEST way a terran can handle this situation?

skyglow1

New Zealand3962 Posts

January 04 2007 06:22 GMT

#23

If he has 2 zealots the gap becomes useless, so you need scvs to and micro to fight the 2 zealots off. If you're trying to run 2 marines through the gap just right click like mad and they should go through it. You shouldn't need scvs if you're in a situation like 2 marines vs zealot. Just run your rines back and forth through the gap and the zealot can't touch you. When the first zealot comes I usually have 3 rines ready anyway (but I have to retreat my 2 rines on the ramp to my main to delay some time for the 3rd marine to pop out).

Another important question..When faced with a 2 gateway zealot proxy IN YOUR BASE and u KNOW ABOUT IT what is a clear cut way to win that? I did what nada did and sent all my scvs to kill BOTH gateways but he just kept on building more and more pylons/gates inside my base. Then I thought building a bunker by his gate/pylons would win me the game. Huge mistake. He just simply ran around the bunker with the constantly made zealots and started to attack my scvs. Since it's only 4 marines in bunks it would take forever to kill the gate/pylons. What I was thinking was kill the gateways like i did but build the bunker and all my buildings tight so that one bunker can reach everything instead of far away by the gateway/pylons where the zealots would jsut run past it. Then when i have enough marine/vulte/tank force go and and kill the proxies? Would this be the BEST way a terran can handle this situation?

As soon as you see this just placea bunker very close to your minerals. If you were using the special building placement, you would normally place the rax+supply close to your minerals so the marine doesn't have to run too far away to get to the gap. This means that your rax+supply+bunker should be able to form a really tight base then its very easy to defend.

SnOwYdaY

Korea (South)19 Posts

January 04 2007 10:17 GMT

#24

Lol against a proxi like that... first off, sending all of your scvs might work, like nada did.. but it doesn't work all the time...

first off, place a bunker at your main and simply tech.. like a regular game... if he is going mainly zealots... get a vulture and take out your marines from bunker kill the zealot and kill the pylon/gateways... if he happens to stop his zealot production in order to produce goons. take that advantage and kill it then.... its really a difference of style...

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