Zealots vs Carriers - Page 5
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lightman
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MVP[eV]
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-GiveUpTheGhost-
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NonYold
United States2814 Posts
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neSix
United States1772 Posts
Can you imagine what the person who revived this thread was searching for ... ? "HOW U STOP CARRIERS!?" | ||
DooMeR
United States1519 Posts
On December 16 2004 14:02 NonY wrote: Considering the recent trend of analyzing matchups such as this, I thought I'd write my ideas about using zealots to defeat carriers. Sooooo... you are playing the artsy PvP matchup (or perhaps you were playing PvZ or PvT and your opponent hacks). You and your opponent are so evenly matched, or so dumb that you can't take advantage of each other's mistakes, that the game is lasting 30+ minutes. Your opponent decides to copy Grrrr... (he invented carriers) and go carriers. You prefer playing Protoss like a man and winning with zealots (go Reach fighting~) so you decide to counter with zealots. Now, the most important thing that I'd like to point out (and for you poker players this is similar to having 72o) is that YOU KNOW WHERE YOU STAND. He has carriers and you have zealots; you're in DEEP SHIT. However, the game is far from over. In fact, there are many things which you can do to even the tides. Some facts about Starcraft you may or may not already know: 1. All mineral patches and gas geysers are on the ground (unless he hacks) 2. Zealots move faster and have higher damage than a carrier (16 vs a girly 6 [no offense zia, you can kick my ass]) 3. All buildings are on the ground. 4. Your mission in the Brood Wars is to destroy all enemy buildings. Killing units is often times just a fancy exercise- your zealots are sufficient. So now that I have pointed out these little-known gems of information, you are starting to put together the pieces of the puzzle that spells "Victory". However, hold off on hitting those alt+j keys just yet. How exactly are we going to use these awesome advantages of the almighty zealot to triumph? Here are some helpful tactics: 1. Every 15 seconds or so, send in a few zealots to his carriers as if to attack. This will make him feel like he is beating you badly and will distract him from other happenings. 2. As the carriers go around the map ravaging your defenseless bases, you can go around even FASTER and STRONGER with your zealots to ravage HIS bases. He won't even know what's going on until it's too late. 3. If you are playing a pro, then he is likely to send his carriers at your zealots to defend his base. You have 2 options here: a.) Run your zealots away and attack another part of his base b.) Since pros often use mini-maps to observe the movements of the game you can use this against him. Send your zealots charging at his carriers in a large clump (do NOT send them single file because he will figure out they are zealots). He will freak out that a bigass army is coming at him and he'll run away or just alt+q+q right there (he'll F10+e+s+q if he's fancy or alt+x+x if he's pissed) Also a VERY important side note. I have conducted numerous tests with varying amounts of micro in order to simulate realistic in-game conditions and have concluded these results: Carriers will defeat zealots in small numbers and large numbers, but zealots will actually defeat carriers if the numbers are in the middle. That about wraps it up. I had to consider heavily for a very long time if I should release this sacred information so I hope you all deeply appreciate the fact that I did. Thank you and good luck. NonY I think probes are better.. i mean they are half the price, and when ur not using em to pilage and rape mass goons/zeal, u can use em to mine... | ||
Casper...
Liberia4948 Posts
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Sorrow_eyes
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Telemako
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Ceril
Sweden1343 Posts
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
On May 20 2005 07:51 Ceril wrote: I lost today, going all out zealots in mid-end when he had 3 gas and I had spotted sgates, to my mind came this thread and I decided for a try. It didnt work... with some temps in there it would probably have fried the entire carrier fleet. You just didn't follow this strat! You didn't do it properly! No one can lose with this strat vs carriers! | ||
poor newb
United States1879 Posts
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NeX-HamartiA
United States244 Posts
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Darki[CKG]
Peru60 Posts
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inc
Sweden889 Posts
On May 25 2005 08:56 Darki[CKG] wrote: nony are u retarded ? the guy making carriers only have to make some gay canons and with some zeal/archon army + his carriers + canons will own u pretty hard 8/ rofl, you are the retarded one, its a joke dumbass.. i hope you are joking to.. | ||
exalted
United States3612 Posts
a) cannot take a joke (stupid) b) doesn't find it funny (stupid) c) finds it funny (yes) d) wins becuase of this thread (godly) | ||
MVP[eV]
United States270 Posts
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RedMeat
United Kingdom490 Posts
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iNsaNe-
Finland5201 Posts
On May 25 2005 08:56 Darki[CKG] wrote: nony are u retarded ? the guy making carriers only have to make some gay canons and with some zeal/archon army + his carriers + canons will own u pretty hard 8/ Is that well done sarcasm or just stupid post? Because I can't say what it is ![]() | ||
HeaDr0x
Brazil97 Posts
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