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lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
May 19 2005 01:53 GMT
#81
I saw earlier a "funniest TL thread", this one should be nominated up there
Chuck Norris owns the greatest Poker Face of all-time. It helped him win the 1983 WSOP holding just a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, and a green #4 card from the game UNO, against an AAA KK flop and his rival folding AK after Chuck raised him ALL-IN
MVP[eV]
Profile Joined May 2005
United States270 Posts
May 19 2005 02:08 GMT
#82
...or we can let this worthless thread die.
USWest - op eV)
-GiveUpTheGhost-
Profile Joined May 2005
United States8 Posts
May 19 2005 02:35 GMT
#83
This is the thread that caused me to join the TL.net community ;-)!
Star Craft, help my everlasting battle against the sun.
NonYold
Profile Joined April 2004
United States2814 Posts
May 19 2005 03:17 GMT
#84
<3
neSix
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1772 Posts
May 19 2005 09:54 GMT
#85
lmfao NonY <33333


Can you imagine what the person who revived this thread was searching for ... ? "HOW U STOP CARRIERS!?"
DooMeR
Profile Joined July 2003
United States1519 Posts
May 19 2005 11:09 GMT
#86
On December 16 2004 14:02 NonY wrote:
Considering the recent trend of analyzing matchups such as this, I thought I'd write my ideas about using zealots to defeat carriers.

Sooooo... you are playing the artsy PvP matchup (or perhaps you were playing PvZ or PvT and your opponent hacks). You and your opponent are so evenly matched, or so dumb that you can't take advantage of each other's mistakes, that the game is lasting 30+ minutes. Your opponent decides to copy Grrrr... (he invented carriers) and go carriers. You prefer playing Protoss like a man and winning with zealots (go Reach fighting~) so you decide to counter with zealots.

Now, the most important thing that I'd like to point out (and for you poker players this is similar to having 72o) is that YOU KNOW WHERE YOU STAND. He has carriers and you have zealots; you're in DEEP SHIT. However, the game is far from over. In fact, there are many things which you can do to even the tides.

Some facts about Starcraft you may or may not already know:
1. All mineral patches and gas geysers are on the ground (unless he hacks)
2. Zealots move faster and have higher damage than a carrier (16 vs a girly 6 [no offense zia, you can kick my ass])
3. All buildings are on the ground.
4. Your mission in the Brood Wars is to destroy all enemy buildings. Killing units is often times just a fancy exercise- your zealots are sufficient.

So now that I have pointed out these little-known gems of information, you are starting to put together the pieces of the puzzle that spells "Victory". However, hold off on hitting those alt+j keys just yet. How exactly are we going to use these awesome advantages of the almighty zealot to triumph? Here are some helpful tactics:

1. Every 15 seconds or so, send in a few zealots to his carriers as if to attack. This will make him feel like he is beating you badly and will distract him from other happenings.
2. As the carriers go around the map ravaging your defenseless bases, you can go around even FASTER and STRONGER with your zealots to ravage HIS bases. He won't even know what's going on until it's too late.
3. If you are playing a pro, then he is likely to send his carriers at your zealots to defend his base. You have 2 options here:
a.) Run your zealots away and attack another part of his base
b.) Since pros often use mini-maps to observe the movements of the game you can use this against him. Send your zealots charging at his carriers in a large clump (do NOT send them single file because he will figure out they are zealots). He will freak out that a bigass army is coming at him and he'll run away or just alt+q+q right there (he'll F10+e+s+q if he's fancy or alt+x+x if he's pissed)

Also a VERY important side note. I have conducted numerous tests with varying amounts of micro in order to simulate realistic in-game conditions and have concluded these results: Carriers will defeat zealots in small numbers and large numbers, but zealots will actually defeat carriers if the numbers are in the middle.

That about wraps it up. I had to consider heavily for a very long time if I should release this sacred information so I hope you all deeply appreciate the fact that I did. Thank you and good luck.

NonY


I think probes are better.. i mean they are half the price, and when ur not using em to pilage and rape mass goons/zeal, u can use em to mine...
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
May 19 2005 12:14 GMT
#87
KAKA
KAKAKA
JAM THE FUCKER!
Sorrow_eyes
Profile Joined February 2005
United States1007 Posts
May 19 2005 12:20 GMT
#88
Meh, we should revive the firebat vs hydra thread too! <3
Myacctmessup: People tried to create a Perfect language that the whole world can communicate with out difficulty, that it is universal and easy to learn. Do you hapen to know what language is it? Fireblast: You mean love?
Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1636 Posts
May 19 2005 18:20 GMT
#89
This is funny, but thinking about it, I have defeated lots of zergs muta rushing with mass zealots so...

I've been around since it all started, and it feels good
Ceril
Profile Joined April 2003
Sweden1343 Posts
May 19 2005 22:51 GMT
#90
I lost today, going all out zealots in mid-end when he had 3 gas and I had spotted sgates, to my mind came this thread and I decided for a try. It didnt work... with some temps in there it would probably have fried the entire carrier fleet.
Just because you can now store where everyone was and is, what they like, what they fear who they talk to and who they love. It does not mean we should so spy upon our fellow man in a dystopia far worse then 1984
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
May 21 2005 22:11 GMT
#91
On May 20 2005 07:51 Ceril wrote:
I lost today, going all out zealots in mid-end when he had 3 gas and I had spotted sgates, to my mind came this thread and I decided for a try. It didnt work... with some temps in there it would probably have fried the entire carrier fleet.


You just didn't follow this strat! You didn't do it properly! No one can lose with this strat vs carriers!
It takes a fool to remain sane.
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-22 00:10:44
May 22 2005 00:06 GMT
#92
not if i make a pylon on an island, pwned gg no re zealots
How do you mine minerals?
NeX-HamartiA
Profile Joined May 2005
United States244 Posts
May 22 2005 00:27 GMT
#93
Such a funny post :-D!
In The Arms Of.
Darki[CKG]
Profile Joined March 2005
Peru60 Posts
May 24 2005 23:56 GMT
#94
nony are u retarded ? the guy making carriers only have to make some gay canons and with some zeal/archon army + his carriers + canons will own u pretty hard 8/
EL PAPITOSS
inc
Profile Joined June 2003
Sweden889 Posts
May 25 2005 00:00 GMT
#95
On May 25 2005 08:56 Darki[CKG] wrote:
nony are u retarded ? the guy making carriers only have to make some gay canons and with some zeal/archon army + his carriers + canons will own u pretty hard 8/


rofl, you are the retarded one, its a joke dumbass.. i hope you are joking to..
i savour every bit of the numerous gifts life is offering me, having no worries, goals or regrets, constantly trading time for pleasure
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
May 25 2005 00:14 GMT
#96
Haha, nostalgic memories - I love threads like these because we can quickly rule out the people that
a) cannot take a joke (stupid)
b) doesn't find it funny (stupid)
c) finds it funny (yes)
d) wins becuase of this thread (godly)
too easy
MVP[eV]
Profile Joined May 2005
United States270 Posts
May 25 2005 00:22 GMT
#97
This is as useless as a Medic vs Observer thread.
USWest - op eV)
RedMeat
Profile Joined September 2002
United Kingdom490 Posts
May 25 2005 03:33 GMT
#98
This thread rocks, sorry MVP :p.
I am the mirror, I am the destiny, I am the herald that points the way...
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
May 25 2005 03:37 GMT
#99
On May 25 2005 08:56 Darki[CKG] wrote:
nony are u retarded ? the guy making carriers only have to make some gay canons and with some zeal/archon army + his carriers + canons will own u pretty hard 8/


Is that well done sarcasm or just stupid post? Because I can't say what it is
It takes a fool to remain sane.
HeaDr0x
Profile Joined May 2005
Brazil97 Posts
May 25 2005 03:44 GMT
#100
I´m sure he really meant that... he took the post seriously ;pp
whatever
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