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[H] PvP how do i beat this noob

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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5529 Posts
December 18 2009 04:25 GMT
#1
Hi i played this game on ICCup, this guy seemed really bad but I dont know how i could have beaten him.

I think my major problems were in my build order. His build order was very bad so i didnt know what to do vs it. Normally I win games no problem at D/D+ level in pvp but this guy threw me off, he didnt do at all what I expected. Thats why I hate playing vs bad players..they always make weird choices and i am forced to adapt from their noobness.

He went 2 gate goons into into observers..this is something I only see D/D- players do so i quickly adapted and went three gate goon reaver. I think i should have gone 5 gate goons perhaps or maybe even 6 and completely smashed him.

Anyways another mistake i made was when i went out I didnt keep an eye on my shuttle and it got sniped. Normally I dont have to do this vs good players because they are afraid for their goons to die but this guy was bad and didnt care i guess.

Then he attacked at me which was unexpected but I used my good micro skills and picked off his shuttle, but i was overrun by dragoons so i had to back off. Clearly he was all-in goons at this point. Gah. Anyways he attacks me at my choke and micro my reaver perfectly but he breaks my nat anyways cause is is all in goons so i lose the game.

But yeah, I had no idea what to do vs this bad play so im asking for some help.


Here is the replay and a link to his ICCup account. Some how this noob is undefeated. His name "KTRolster1" looks very familiar, is he a teamliquid poster?

http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/KTRolster1.html

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And once again, Please watch the replay before you post advice
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9107 Posts
December 18 2009 04:30 GMT
#2
um... troll right?
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5529 Posts
December 18 2009 04:30 GMT
#3
Oh i forgot to add, my friend luckyfool played this guy too. He is B- and lost to him as well. He would also like advice.

[image loading]
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
December 18 2009 04:44 GMT
#4
rofl I played so horrible. siege was late and got supply stuck at 60 for a million years.
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
December 18 2009 04:57 GMT
#5
Rofl, I got confused during the chat at first. Lol.

Easy, Go D.T Rush. Perfect Build. You dont even need to see what your opponent does. Duh!.
BeefyEnchilada
Profile Joined October 2009
United States50 Posts
December 18 2009 04:59 GMT
#6
First off, I dunno why you think he's so bad. He played better than you did that game, and his account is 5-0, so he's not a total noob.

And he just macroed slightly better that game, and you made a few small errors that added up. Losing the shuttle, bad positioning in the last fight. It was kinda a close game, but he had reaver advantage and good position at the end.
Death is the road to awe
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
December 18 2009 05:10 GMT
#7
Seriously... troll? This guy is not a noob, he had very high apm, he had very solid mechanics, he was not at all, all in goons (infact, he didnt even have his 3rd or 4th gateway up before the game was decided in the last fight), he was ahead of you economically and just outmacrod you. 2gate obs expand is a fairly std build order, not a noob one... Things you could've done better were obvious, such as not losing your shuttle (that played a huge roll), and having better mechanics yourself...
@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
Nogardeci89
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States113 Posts
December 18 2009 05:13 GMT
#8
Troll??

First off, did you even watch ur own replay? Most of what you describe is the exact opposite of what really happened. Mostly the part about him being bad.

His build order was very bad so i didnt know what to do vs it.


u both did roughly the same build order until you added 3rd gate and he went for expo. Try watching your own replays with a discerning eye? Its clear why you lost. You did a timing attack 3gate goon +2reaver but lost both the reavers. he had an expo and equal units while you had no expo. gg
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
December 18 2009 05:14 GMT
#9
i wonder if ktrolster1 is the same as kt_rolster a+ last season
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
December 18 2009 05:17 GMT
#10
Hot damn
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-18 05:19:13
December 18 2009 05:18 GMT
#11
God man none of you guys know who jimmy is tisk tisk tisk

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Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
December 18 2009 05:23 GMT
#12
Well clearly, only D/D- players have 328 apm.
RLTY
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States965 Posts
December 18 2009 05:24 GMT
#13
He's being saracastic guys....
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5529 Posts
December 18 2009 05:45 GMT
#14
Haha for those who didn't get it, the protoss "ktrolster1" is KT_Stats. He says so in game 1 and hotkeys verify that it is him.

He also added me to his friends list :O
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PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
December 18 2009 05:49 GMT
#15
post is sad
1)who goes 6 gate goon off 1 base
2)he sniped your shuttle containing reaver and you were surprised he came after you?

take a look at yourself
Once again back is the incredible!
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
December 18 2009 05:56 GMT
#16
On December 18 2009 14:45 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Haha for those who didn't get it, the protoss "ktrolster1" is KT_Stats. He says so in game 1 and hotkeys verify that it is him.

He also added me to his friends list :O

i think most people got it (asking if u were trolling), nobody laughed cos it isnt very funny . Something like this would probably be better off blogged =]
@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9107 Posts
December 18 2009 06:55 GMT
#17
On December 18 2009 14:45 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Haha for those who didn't get it, the protoss "ktrolster1" is KT_Stats. He says so in game 1 and hotkeys verify that it is him.

He also added me to his friends list :O


Oh cool, didn't even bother watching the replay. I will now though!
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 18 2009 07:48 GMT
#18
Shouldn't you just post this in the who is who thread? Actually, where IS the whois who thread?
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
December 18 2009 10:30 GMT
#19
On December 18 2009 16:48 Nevuk wrote:
Shouldn't you just post this in the who is who thread? Actually, where IS the whois who thread?

basically this is a brag post in disguise so people can 'discover' things and give him e-cred. But instead nobody cared and he had to tell us who his opponent was.
Marines > everything
Altair
Profile Joined August 2009
243 Posts
December 18 2009 17:50 GMT
#20
You just beat him Protoss style:
1a2a3a4a5a6a7a...
+ Show Spoiler +
Where numbers=day count a=hours of practice


GG
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
December 18 2009 17:59 GMT
#21
On December 18 2009 13:25 jimminy_kriket wrote:
...

His build order was very bad so i didnt know what to do vs it.

...


very Idraesque :D
http://twitter.com/jhNz
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
December 18 2009 18:12 GMT
#22
On December 18 2009 13:30 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Oh i forgot to add, my friend luckyfool played this guy too. He is B- and lost to him as well. He would also like advice.

[image loading]



Uhhh... Didn't watch the replay but obviously if luckyfool lost to his he is he is NOT a "Bad" player... I'll watch the replay and see what happens but I don't see how you think he is bad when he is at a way higher level... Ill repost when i watch it
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5529 Posts
December 18 2009 18:22 GMT
#23
I look forward to it ^^
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
December 18 2009 19:01 GMT
#24
On December 19 2009 03:12 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2009 13:30 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Oh i forgot to add, my friend luckyfool played this guy too. He is B- and lost to him as well. He would also like advice.

[image loading]



Uhhh... Didn't watch the replay but obviously if luckyfool lost to his he is he is NOT a "Bad" player... I'll watch the replay and see what happens but I don't see how you think he is bad when he is at a way higher level... Ill repost when i watch it



I don't think you know just how bad LuckyFool is.
Chains none
RiZn
Profile Joined March 2009
United States22 Posts
December 18 2009 20:25 GMT
#25
maybe you should quit thinking that everyone is worse than you and believe the fact that he is better. i dont know about pvp that much, but i do know that opening up 2 gate goon and observer is probably the safest pvp build that i have yet to see. that is not a weird build -.- i've seen it multiple times if not all the time LOL

i didnt get to look at your replay, but trust me, unless you're stork or bisu- you should quit thinking that everyone that you meet on iccup is worse than you LOL
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
December 18 2009 20:25 GMT
#26
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5529 Posts
December 18 2009 20:36 GMT
#27
On December 19 2009 05:25 RiZn wrote:
maybe you should quit thinking that everyone is worse than you and believe the fact that he is better. i dont know about pvp that much, but i do know that opening up 2 gate goon and observer is probably the safest pvp build that i have yet to see. that is not a weird build -.- i've seen it multiple times if not all the time LOL

i didnt get to look at your replay, but trust me, unless you're stork or bisu- you should quit thinking that everyone that you meet on iccup is worse than you LOL

Watch the replay man, this guy was wayyy worse than me. Anyone D- and up could tell you that

Dont bother reading the thread either
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
December 18 2009 20:40 GMT
#28
I suffer from thinking everybody on ICCup is better than me. Any advice on that, RiZn?
Chains none
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
December 18 2009 20:42 GMT
#29
On December 19 2009 04:01 LordWeird wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 03:12 GreEny K wrote:
On December 18 2009 13:30 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Oh i forgot to add, my friend luckyfool played this guy too. He is B- and lost to him as well. He would also like advice.

[image loading]



Uhhh... Didn't watch the replay but obviously if luckyfool lost to his he is he is NOT a "Bad" player... I'll watch the replay and see what happens but I don't see how you think he is bad when he is at a way higher level... Ill repost when i watch it



I don't think you know just how bad LuckyFool is.

you have a big mouth now dont you?

LuckyFool hwaiting
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5529 Posts
December 18 2009 20:52 GMT
#30
no luckyfool really is bad. just ask him
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-18 21:30:06
December 18 2009 21:29 GMT
#31
On December 19 2009 05:52 jimminy_kriket wrote:
no luckyfool really is bad. just ask him

lol

though he seems to think its the whole terran race, not him, judging from his blogs
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
December 18 2009 21:32 GMT
#32
I'm fucking pro as shit stats aint got nothing on me fucking lowass apm scrub if I didnt miss a depot at 60 that kid is fukin raped.
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