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Hmm, I think very little of most of the 'coachs' in starcraft other then the ex pro gamer coachs, and a female starcraft plaer that was never any great doesn't mean very much imo, TossGirl would be better as she's a better player which would translate to better coach. Most of these coachs can only really do 1 thing for the players and thats tell them to play more.
Tbh getting to that level you don't need any coaching as you already know the in's and out fo the game and its only dealing with pressure that is a problem for any of these players. I would like to see any coach tell Bisu or Jaedong to go and practice xyz strat or technique; not gonna happen ever.
Admitedly the very new players 'might' not know counters to xyz strat but all they need to do is practice & talk with their teamm8's and thats about it, any half decent player wouldn't need to be told they'd find out themselves what they need to do just by watching there own replays and others.
Imo coachs=overrated as this is a 1v1 game not football or something.
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wow, really nice, congratulations to her!
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On July 31 2009 17:28 Adeeler wrote:
Hmm, I think very little of most of the 'coachs' in starcraft other then the ex pro gamer coachs, and a female starcraft plaer that was never any great doesn't mean very much imo, TossGirl would be better as she's a better player which would translate to better coach. Most of these coachs can only really do 1 thing for the players and thats tell them to play more.
Tbh getting to that level you don't need any coaching as you already know the in's and out fo the game and its only dealing with pressure that is a problem for any of these players. I would like to see any coach tell Bisu or Jaedong to go and practice xyz strat or technique; not gonna happen ever.
Admitedly the very new players 'might' not know counters to xyz strat but all they need to do is practice & talk with their teamm8's and thats about it, any half decent player wouldn't need to be told they'd find out themselves what they need to do just by watching there own replays and others.
Imo coachs=overrated as this is a 1v1 game not football or something.
No wonder you're not a CJ fan.
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Congratulations to January. =)
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On July 31 2009 14:00 gunsharp wrote:
wow, 3.5 years of dating is really long
It's just right.
You don't even know a person until the 3rd year, when the 'dating honeymoon' is REALLY over.
Basically, two years isn't long enough to know whether they can put up with you for life 
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On July 31 2009 17:46 The Storyteller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2009 17:28 Adeeler wrote:
Hmm, I think very little of most of the 'coachs' in starcraft other then the ex pro gamer coachs, and a female starcraft plaer that was never any great doesn't mean very much imo, TossGirl would be better as she's a better player which would translate to better coach. Most of these coachs can only really do 1 thing for the players and thats tell them to play more.
Tbh getting to that level you don't need any coaching as you already know the in's and out fo the game and its only dealing with pressure that is a problem for any of these players. I would like to see any coach tell Bisu or Jaedong to go and practice xyz strat or technique; not gonna happen ever.
Admitedly the very new players 'might' not know counters to xyz strat but all they need to do is practice & talk with their teamm8's and thats about it, any half decent player wouldn't need to be told they'd find out themselves what they need to do just by watching there own replays and others.
Imo coachs=overrated as this is a 1v1 game not football or something. No wonder you're not a CJ fan.
Interestingly enough, January won more titles than Tossgirl (in the womens leagues), and never finished below semifinals in any of the women's leagues. She used to play zerg, and was compared to boxer back in the wild times of the beginning of starcraft as a professional venture.
January is also one of the only coaches to have played, which gives her kind of a unique view - most of the other coaches are business people, who really can't help very much when it comes to practice as you said.
Oov's been brought up, but january does a better job of raising her own players. Oov has shown that as well, but in terms of coaching...just go look at tlpd ^^ (january has been coaching since like 2002 iirc, where oov has been coaching since last year or so.
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On July 31 2009 17:28 Adeeler wrote:
Hmm, I think very little of most of the 'coachs' in starcraft other then the ex pro gamer coachs, and a female starcraft plaer that was never any great doesn't mean very much imo, TossGirl would be better as she's a better player which would translate to better coach. Most of these coachs can only really do 1 thing for the players and thats tell them to play more.
Tbh getting to that level you don't need any coaching as you already know the in's and out fo the game and its only dealing with pressure that is a problem for any of these players. I would like to see any coach tell Bisu or Jaedong to go and practice xyz strat or technique; not gonna happen ever.
Admitedly the very new players 'might' not know counters to xyz strat but all they need to do is practice & talk with their teamm8's and thats about it, any half decent player wouldn't need to be told they'd find out themselves what they need to do just by watching there own replays and others.
Imo coachs=overrated as this is a 1v1 game not football or something.
You don't know anything about what it's like in the team houses, nor how the players practice.
Coaches aren't necessary? How can you say that with ANY confidence? The players have said in the translated interviews here how much their coaches have helped them prepare, helped them do this and that, etc, many times. There are even interviews of coaches talking about their players and the teams and the leagues and whatnot.
God...get out. That's seriously one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.
On July 31 2009 17:50 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2009 17:46 The Storyteller wrote:On July 31 2009 17:28 Adeeler wrote:
Hmm, I think very little of most of the 'coachs' in starcraft other then the ex pro gamer coachs, and a female starcraft plaer that was never any great doesn't mean very much imo, TossGirl would be better as she's a better player which would translate to better coach. Most of these coachs can only really do 1 thing for the players and thats tell them to play more.
Tbh getting to that level you don't need any coaching as you already know the in's and out fo the game and its only dealing with pressure that is a problem for any of these players. I would like to see any coach tell Bisu or Jaedong to go and practice xyz strat or technique; not gonna happen ever.
Admitedly the very new players 'might' not know counters to xyz strat but all they need to do is practice & talk with their teamm8's and thats about it, any half decent player wouldn't need to be told they'd find out themselves what they need to do just by watching there own replays and others.
Imo coachs=overrated as this is a 1v1 game not football or something. No wonder you're not a CJ fan. Interestingly enough, January won more titles than Tossgirl (in the womens leagues), and never finished below semifinals in any of the women's leagues. She used to play zerg, and was compared to boxer back in the wild times of the beginning of starcraft as a professional venture. January is also one of the only coaches to have played, which gives her kind of a unique view - most of the other coaches are business people, who really can't help very much when it comes to practice as you said. Oov's been brought up, but january does a better job of raising her own players. Oov has shown that as well, but in terms of coaching...just go look at tlpd ^^ (january has been coaching since like 2002 iirc, where oov has been coaching since last year or so.
Ghostclaw, you quoted the wrong guy. I think you meant Adeeler.
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January is definitely the most influential female in SC progaming.
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On July 31 2009 17:50 miseiler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2009 14:00 gunsharp wrote:
wow, 3.5 years of dating is really long It's just right. You don't even know a person until the 3rd year, when the 'dating honeymoon' is REALLY over. Basically, two years isn't long enough to know whether they can put up with you for life
But if you realize they can't put up with you, you just wasted 3.something years.
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On July 31 2009 19:22 Sadistx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2009 17:50 miseiler wrote:On July 31 2009 14:00 gunsharp wrote:
wow, 3.5 years of dating is really long It's just right. You don't even know a person until the 3rd year, when the 'dating honeymoon' is REALLY over. Basically, two years isn't long enough to know whether they can put up with you for life But if you realize they can't put up with you, you just wasted 3.something years.
Divorce isn't so welcomed in some countries, ok?
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On July 31 2009 14:00 Avidkeystamper wrote:
I read this as
"After three and a half years of dating, January will get married to August. "
haha i read it as that too and I was thinking August == Autumn haha
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Congrats January.
And her husband is Ever)TT
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On July 31 2009 19:41 Batibot323 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2009 19:22 Sadistx wrote:On July 31 2009 17:50 miseiler wrote:On July 31 2009 14:00 gunsharp wrote:
wow, 3.5 years of dating is really long It's just right. You don't even know a person until the 3rd year, when the 'dating honeymoon' is REALLY over. Basically, two years isn't long enough to know whether they can put up with you for life But if you realize they can't put up with you, you just wasted 3.something years. Divorce isn't so welcomed in some countries, ok?
Also, 3.5 years is long enough to be able to tell if you can stand someone enough to marry them.
Congratulations Ga Eul!
On July 31 2009 19:51 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2009 14:00 Avidkeystamper wrote:
I read this as
"After three and a half years of dating, January will get married to August. " haha i read it as that too and I was thinking August == Autumn haha
January's Korean name is Autumn actually.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 31 2009 17:50 miseiler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2009 14:00 gunsharp wrote:
wow, 3.5 years of dating is really long It's just right. You don't even know a person until the 3rd year, when the 'dating honeymoon' is REALLY over. Basically, two years isn't long enough to know whether they can put up with you for life
im rapidly approaching 3.5 is it my time now?!
Regardless, cool news!
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 31 2009 17:28 Adeeler wrote:
Hmm, I think very little of most of the 'coachs' in starcraft other then the ex pro gamer coachs, and a female starcraft plaer that was never any great doesn't mean very much imo, TossGirl would be better as she's a better player which would translate to better coach. Most of these coachs can only really do 1 thing for the players and thats tell them to play more.
Tbh getting to that level you don't need any coaching as you already know the in's and out fo the game and its only dealing with pressure that is a problem for any of these players. I would like to see any coach tell Bisu or Jaedong to go and practice xyz strat or technique; not gonna happen ever.
Admitedly the very new players 'might' not know counters to xyz strat but all they need to do is practice & talk with their teamm8's and thats about it, any half decent player wouldn't need to be told they'd find out themselves what they need to do just by watching there own replays and others.
Imo coachs=overrated as this is a 1v1 game not football or something. You have no idea how important coaches are in SC. As an MBC fan, I know first hand how important they are. The current SKT Coach use to be the assistant coach of MBC when they won the proleague. Him and Coach Ha created a wonderful training environment and turned POS from a "piece of shit" team into MBCGame Hero coasting Starleague Champion July, Pusan, Sea, Light, Bisu, Shark etc... They were easily the deepest team in the tournament and they thoroughly deserved their win. They went on to nurture Bisu into 2 MSL wins and a Silver (and an OSL bronze). They had their shit down.
Now what? In 2008 SKT was at the bottom of the rankings (literally 9th place). They fired their coaching staff and hired Coach Park to be the lead coach (and oov/kingdom to be assistants) and they also bought Bisu off MBC. Coach Park has literally turned the team around and created an excellent practice environment for the team and SKT1 is now in first place. The players haven't changed (that much) but the coaching staff did - and thats why SKT is now much better off.
MBC's practice has turned to shit since Ha left and the new guy took over. The team is a wreck and the players do not like the practice atmosphere - and it painfully shows in their games. MBC is a joke of a team now.
There are other examples; Coach Cho of CJ is one (master at all kill format), and January is another.
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How could you january...
At least we'll still have Paris.
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NOOOOOOOO! some bastard beat me to it 
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January is definitely an accomplished coach!
Grats!
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wow, she's more popular than I thought... hehe congrats to her
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