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zimz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States510 Posts
July 26 2009 11:24 GMT
#1
i loved watching him cast, it was so funny
zimz
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
July 26 2009 11:25 GMT
#2
Personally my favorite part was when d.lee in the middle of a tense part in the game just goes "Sorry, I forgot your name...."
"Urrr... my names jessie"
then jessie was silent for a good 2 minutes, hahaha
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zimz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States510 Posts
July 26 2009 11:26 GMT
#3
its just so funny watching him improvise and make up things mid thought
zimz
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-26 11:29:55
July 26 2009 11:28 GMT
#4
hahah it was very random having him cast and he sucked badly lol.

oh and hahaha how could he just forget his name lol. sdm dont know what the fuck is going every now and then
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
July 26 2009 11:31 GMT
#5
I think it is great he could have this experience. He has a great story to tell. Obviously he is not a professional nor is he trying to be.

That being said, it was a SEMI FINALS. Seriously GOM, if you are going to be Blizzard's chosen ones, you need to do a better job than that.
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iD.NicKy
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
France767 Posts
July 26 2009 11:31 GMT
#6
he did fine
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-26 11:39:50
July 26 2009 11:38 GMT
#7
On July 26 2009 20:31 Manifesto7 wrote:
I think it is great he could have this experience. He has a great story to tell. Obviously he is not a professional nor is he trying to be.

That being said, it was a SEMI FINALS. Seriously GOM, if you are going to be Blizzard's chosen ones, you need to do a better job than that.


I wholeheartedly agree, It's very nice they went out and did something like that but it was the semi-finals after all and they should be more professional but still it's free to watch.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
July 26 2009 11:41 GMT
#8
switched to the korean stream before the first game started
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dataXploit
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada81 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-26 11:55:51
July 26 2009 11:54 GMT
#9
I thought he was okay. He's not nearly as bad as some of tasteless's old co-casters from old WCG events. There were ysome casters worse than DJWheat.(No offence to wheat, he just doesnt know anything about starcraft)



This guy claims to play zerg, but later wonders if the players are trying to make their opponent's hatcheries more difficult to select. I ROFLed
ChoBz
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada836 Posts
July 26 2009 11:56 GMT
#10
On July 26 2009 20:41 GTR wrote:
switched to the korean stream before the first game started


thank you for the link earlier =) couldn't stand it
ChoBz
Darcey
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden35 Posts
July 26 2009 12:05 GMT
#11
I'm sorry, but what are you all talking about. Could you fill me in?
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 26 2009 12:07 GMT
#12
I only saw the starting part, the fail at casting the replay with the names is seriously hillarious. His monotone fail voice was great too . Seriously where did they pick him up from? Does anyone know this guy?
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
July 26 2009 12:12 GMT
#13
Check the GOM semi final thread if you don't know what is happening. Basically because Tasteless is casting the Heritage, they picked some random guy to commentate with SDM. Reactions to that move are mixed.
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 26 2009 12:45 GMT
#14
He did better than I expected, honestly.
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Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
July 26 2009 12:50 GMT
#15
After the jaedong vs effort replays in which both of them switched the players twice, and during the second game where they got them mixed up literally right up until the end of the game, I thought it was alright.
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
July 26 2009 12:50 GMT
#16
On July 26 2009 20:41 GTR wrote:
switched to the korean stream before the first game started

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Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
July 26 2009 12:52 GMT
#17
He did well given the situation he was thrown into.
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
July 26 2009 13:12 GMT
#18
hmm that's pretty elitist.
I didn't think he was too bad. It takes some balls to step up and commentate games on a live stream which is being watched live by I don't know how many thousand people.
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
July 26 2009 13:19 GMT
#19
He is no tasteless, but he did good. Ofc he is far from perfect, but some of his comments made me smile and he knows a lot about Starcraft.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
July 26 2009 13:37 GMT
#20
knows a lot about starcraft?
when you make a comment like 'effort isn't really out there' (or whatever it was), you don't know starcraft progaming.
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Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
July 26 2009 13:49 GMT
#21
i love him cause he got same name as me
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
July 26 2009 13:50 GMT
#22
I loved when he went in dept on that everyone must understand how hard it is to fend of mutalisks harassing your base =)

So yeah it was decent commentary for the very casual fans but still a big step back from Tasteless and as stated in the live thread Tasteless isn't even in dept to begin with.

It's nothing personal against him. I would not do better on short notice myself even though I'd probably do it anyways for the lolz but in that case I would at least try to come off as a color commentator.

Listening to heritage finals afterward was a huge step upwards in quality. Artosis is very good and knowledgeable

Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
July 26 2009 14:53 GMT
#23
On July 26 2009 22:37 GTR wrote:
knows a lot about starcraft?
when you make a comment like 'effort isn't really out there' (or whatever it was), you don't know starcraft progaming.


Just because you know a lot about Starcraft, that doesn't have to mean that you know a lot about the Starcraft progaming scene.
To give you an example Tasteless know quite a bit about Starcraft, but many find his knowledge about the progaming scene lacking. While on the other hand there are posters on this forum that knows an insane amount of details about Starcraft progaming, but lack in knowledge when it comes to the actual game.

Whether this Jessie guy had enough knowledge about either is arguable, but considering he seemed to have been asked to commentate an hour before match start - and he had no previous experience commentating before - he did better than you could ask from him.
I would say he did better than Tasteless did before djWheat trained him.

Obviously Jessie shouldn't had never made his debut in a GOM TV semifinal, but that wasn't his fault, blame GOM instead.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 26 2009 14:56 GMT
#24
lolgom
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
July 26 2009 15:02 GMT
#25
I felt that he had no clue what he was talking about. Listened to him for like 5 minutes before switching to korean stream (thanks mystlord lol)
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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
July 26 2009 15:08 GMT
#26
He wasn't terrible for his first game as a commentator, but I felt unconfortable listening to him. He was clearly quite nervous and didn't really know that much about the game. The only thing I hated about him was that even though he wasn't as good as Daniel he kept interupting him to explain how he plays the game.

Still, GOM fucked up big time with he semis. Hopefully the finals will go smooth, Tasteless and SDM will both be there and the stream won't die during the last game.
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 26 2009 15:09 GMT
#27
... rage. Serious rage. First he takes it for himself and then he lets his co-host... die.
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Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
July 26 2009 15:19 GMT
#28
Why can't we have three commentators like all the rest of the commentary teams are?
Tasteless, SDM, Artosis?

I would jizz myself in a heterosexual kinda way.
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-26 15:37:47
July 26 2009 15:37 GMT
#29
he was ok, he gave a lot of insight, he focused on the game. That's sg Tasteless often forgots...
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koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
July 26 2009 18:51 GMT
#30
well he does not know too much about starcraft, but his comments were so amateur that they were funny
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
July 26 2009 20:38 GMT
#31
GOM lost a lot in my eyes getting this newb to commentate semi-final.Thank god SDM saved the cast, even tho he was bad at the beggining of it.
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So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
July 26 2009 20:49 GMT
#32
The worst part of it had to have been them making things up, when they were casting the Jaedong vs Effort games. "Do you remember this game?" "No I don't.... actually, I think Jaedong is on the aggressive, and all I remember is him winning this game and them taking it to the 3rd" (I don't remember him saying take it to the third, but Effort was 1 up, and he did say Jaedong was going to win) "I think you're right" * a few minutes pass* "Actually, you're wrong, Effort is on the aggressive, and I remember now, he destroys Jaedong here"
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bN`
Profile Joined May 2009
Slovenia504 Posts
July 26 2009 20:55 GMT
#33
I think Jessie CAME RIGHT OF THE BAT and did quite good for his cast. He got the hang of it towards the end of the cast but he must have been really nervous, which was understandable. Maybe he should have had some training during the round fo 128/64.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 26 2009 21:04 GMT
#34
On July 27 2009 05:55 bN` wrote:
I think Jessie CAME RIGHT OF THE BAT and did quite good for his cast. He got the hang of it towards the end of the cast but he must have been really nervous, which was understandable. Maybe he should have had some training during the round fo 128/64.

'
he should.

gom please don't brg out some random during the ro16 and on.. pleaseeeeee
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Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
July 26 2009 21:06 GMT
#35
On July 26 2009 20:25 Ftrunkz wrote:
Personally my favorite part was when d.lee in the middle of a tense part in the game just goes "Sorry, I forgot your name...."
"Urrr... my names jessie"
then jessie was silent for a good 2 minutes, hahaha

That was such a painful moment.
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-26 21:11:32
July 26 2009 21:09 GMT
#36
He wasn't terrible, I actually thought he did okay for jumping in there out of nowhere. It was actually mildly entertaining, and quite gutsy of this Jesse guy to do... And like I said, he wasn't the greatest, but he wasn't terrible. Better than I could have done, haha.

But that's not my issue with it. My issue is that Gom should be more professional than that, to just throw some random out of the audience in to cast, especially for a freaking semifinal. I believe this scheduling conflict with Tasteless was known FAR in advance, so why not plan for lilsusie or ANYONE who actually has a reputation in the community to come cast?

Comparably, that's like some random football fan replacing John Madden because he had a shit-attack before the game... In the playoffs. It's great what Gom is doing for the foreign esports community, yes, but this little event makes it seem somewhat like a joke. That's the last thing foreign esports needs. =(
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Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
July 26 2009 21:19 GMT
#37
Rekrul should have gone
Imagist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia484 Posts
July 26 2009 21:20 GMT
#38
The whole thing was surreal.

I'll grant that Jessie did well for a first time casting, on short notice. I'll further grant that he gradually started doing better as it progressed.

That said, what producer in his right mind would decide that bringing this random, inexperienced person in to cast (perhaps making Jessie's long-time dreams come true, who knows?) was a brilliant idea? It's still a step back for their credibility as professional broadcasters that they don't need, especially after the steps forward they took with their sponsorship deal with Blizzard, etc.
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
July 26 2009 21:20 GMT
#39
Gom scheduling the Semifinals B so close to Proleague Playoffs was poor judgement. Bringing in Jesse as a last minute replacement with 0 training or experience was poor judgement.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-26 21:21:43
July 26 2009 21:21 GMT
#40
Does anyone know who he actually is? I mean i can think of 50000 people in korea who could have covered.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
July 26 2009 21:23 GMT
#41
--- Nuked ---
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
July 26 2009 21:29 GMT
#42
yeah what happened to the guy that subbed-in for Tasteless during the last couple seasons? Jason I think his name was?
blabberrrrr
Quint
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
467 Posts
July 26 2009 21:41 GMT
#43
I think he did OK. Not the best commentating, mind you, but still far better than a lot of other casters I've heard. Cut him some slack, I am pretty sure Tasteless and SDM were also very nervous when they casted for the first time.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
July 26 2009 21:43 GMT
#44
On July 27 2009 06:41 Quint wrote:
I think he did OK. Not the best commentating, mind you, but still far better than a lot of other casters I've heard. Cut him some slack, I am pretty sure Tasteless and SDM were also very nervous when they casted for the first time.


The point is that the Semifinals shouldn't have been casted by someone who had never done it before.

There was some Jason guy or something that previously filled in for Tasteless that did fine. Also, Susie still works for GOM I believe, and used to be a caster.

They should've called people with experience the minute that they decided to have Tasteless cast e-stars with Artosis. That they didn't bother to find a replacement until 10 minutes before, and just grabbed a random white guy, is pretty mind bogglingly unprofessional.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 26 2009 21:53 GMT
#45
On July 26 2009 20:54 darkmarksman wrote:
I thought he was okay. He's not nearly as bad as some of tasteless's old co-casters from old WCG events. There were ysome casters worse than DJWheat.(No offence to wheat, he just doesnt know anything about starcraft)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6l51bYLTN8

This guy claims to play zerg, but later wonders if the players are trying to make their opponent's hatcheries more difficult to select. I ROFLed


wheat knew pretty much nothing about starcraft (he picked it up as they continued), but he did an absolutely amazing job considering what he had to offer. If I can't have tasteless/artosis casting an event, wheat/tasteless is probably one of my favorite alternatives
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CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11579 Posts
July 26 2009 22:16 GMT
#46
chill/day would be sick too
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Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
July 26 2009 22:26 GMT
#47
what's the e-mail for feedback for gomtv.net?

i'm gonna spam that to get casting trio of Artosis + Tasteless + SDM for next season, well if there's a next season before SC2 comes :p

i'm hooked on listening to them both, artosis and tasteless after the e-stars event.

btw... what's ur name again?

Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
July 26 2009 22:57 GMT
#48
On July 27 2009 06:53 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2009 20:54 darkmarksman wrote:
I thought he was okay. He's not nearly as bad as some of tasteless's old co-casters from old WCG events. There were ysome casters worse than DJWheat.(No offence to wheat, he just doesnt know anything about starcraft)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6l51bYLTN8

This guy claims to play zerg, but later wonders if the players are trying to make their opponent's hatcheries more difficult to select. I ROFLed


wheat knew pretty much nothing about starcraft (he picked it up as they continued), but he did an absolutely amazing job considering what he had to offer. If I can't have tasteless/artosis casting an event, wheat/tasteless is probably one of my favorite alternatives


It is not surprising, djWheat is pretty much the best e-sport caster we have overall. Pity Starcraft isn't one of his main games.

The issue I have with Tasteless is that he is pretty much a play-by-play commentator, but his knowledge is better suited for a color commentator. Reason for that is because he learned to cast solo so he had to be a little bit of everything, but it leave room to improve now when he cast with someone else.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
July 26 2009 23:43 GMT
#49
This guy was probably the most entertaining caster I've seen in a long time.

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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 00:05:02
July 27 2009 00:03 GMT
#50
On July 27 2009 06:21 Kennigit wrote:
Does anyone know who he actually is? I mean i can think of 50000 people in korea who could have covered.

He's literally the token white guy that goes to gom tv games and sometimes brings tasteless water..and recently he brought SDM water too.

So apparently, all you have to do to become a gomtv commentator is bring tasteless and sdm water...stock up now kids!
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
July 27 2009 05:09 GMT
#51
On July 27 2009 06:29 blabber wrote:
yeah what happened to the guy that subbed-in for Tasteless during the last couple seasons? Jason I think his name was?


Jason Lee, he works for Arirang.
They had a week to get a potential replacement, I would have been extremely happy if he came in to sub for Tasteless, but alas, they got the chump from the crowd.
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
July 27 2009 05:11 GMT
#52
Assuming Jason Lee was busy or whatever....there's lots of ex-pros who speak fluent english like toad who would have legitimized the league even further. If he really was from the crowd that is a HUGE blunder lol....i can't imagine that is the case.
lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
July 27 2009 06:24 GMT
#53
On July 27 2009 06:43 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2009 06:41 Quint wrote:
I think he did OK. Not the best commentating, mind you, but still far better than a lot of other casters I've heard. Cut him some slack, I am pretty sure Tasteless and SDM were also very nervous when they casted for the first time.


There was some Jason guy or something that previously filled in for Tasteless that did fine. Also, Susie still works for GOM I believe, and used to be a caster.


Nope, do not work for them at all.
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
July 27 2009 06:47 GMT
#54
On July 27 2009 06:21 Kennigit wrote:
Does anyone know who he actually is? I mean i can think of 50000 people in korea who could have covered.

They probably wanted a white guy and white people are rarities in Korea.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 27 2009 06:55 GMT
#55
On July 27 2009 06:21 Kennigit wrote:
Does anyone know who he actually is? I mean i can think of 50000 people in korea who could have covered.

it wasn't me
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MannerMan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
371 Posts
July 27 2009 08:32 GMT
#56
I think we're basically at a consensus that Jesse didn't do anything wrong, he did just as well as most of us would, and we'd all have been happy to help GOM if they wanted it.

GOM is at fault, he wasn't good, and they can't have expected him to be, we really need a native English speaker who knows what he's talking about for everything to be enjoyable in my opinion.

Nothing was ruined for me, but I really expect an organization that expects to be taken seriously to have a backup plan for something they obviously knew about at least a little beforehand.
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 08:33:45
July 27 2009 08:33 GMT
#57
At least we will get good casting at Blizzcon, as I just read on wheats homepage.
8/21 ~ 8/22 – BlizzCon Stream w/ djWHEAT, Tasteless, & Artosis. As expected, but I'm very happy they got the three guys again

edit: If everyone knew this already, just ignore this post.
KaasZerg
Profile Joined November 2005
Netherlands927 Posts
July 27 2009 08:40 GMT
#58
He did very good considering the circumstances. In the review of Effort vs JD he was trying too hard to fill in the gaps of what he didn't know. He should have said something like. Ok SDM I haven't seen this game fill us in on whats going on here. React to SDM and ask questions. For some it is hard to take the back seat and that is what he had to do.
He had a hard job with a cocaster he never met before. SDM had the same problem but has a lot of experience to pull him through.
He knew he was making mistakes but he didn't let that get to him too much. Otherwise he would just have fumbled and folded.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
July 27 2009 09:16 GMT
#59
He was such a failure. After listening to him say that he didn't know who EffOrt was, I just immediately switched to the Korean GOM stream. I hope he never comes back.

I did hear that SDM pwnt him during the cast multiple times though. Huge props to him!
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10704 Posts
July 27 2009 10:10 GMT
#60
I thought it was one of the funnyer Gom-days, despite the clear rapes.

The commentary was not the best, but it was *fresh*.
ForSC2
Profile Joined June 2009
United States580 Posts
July 27 2009 10:48 GMT
#61
He got better later, the start was very wtf. He was talking about nuts in a pregame jaedong vs effort game. I didn't know wtf he was saying.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2883#comic
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 27 2009 13:05 GMT
#62
On July 27 2009 19:48 ForSC2 wrote:
He got better later, the start was very wtf. He was talking about nuts in a pregame jaedong vs effort
game. I didn't know wtf he was saying.


It was about cracking the nut, man, cracking the nut!!
beep boop
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
July 27 2009 13:24 GMT
#63
On July 27 2009 22:05 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2009 19:48 ForSC2 wrote:
He got better later, the start was very wtf. He was talking about nuts in a pregame jaedong vs effort
game. I didn't know wtf he was saying.


It was about cracking the nut, man, cracking the nut!!

and not just any sort of nuts; peanuts!!
"Flash is one tough peanut to crack" was by far the best line he had :D
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
July 27 2009 13:32 GMT
#64
Effort has only had his breakthrough at the end of this proleague season. Before that he was good, but so where many other Zergs. He also rarely plays very innovative so i can totally understand when you don't know him that much. Blaming Jessie for that is just bs imo.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
July 28 2009 02:04 GMT
#65
All things considered -- this guy did really good. Just picture yourself in his position, randomly being asked to commentate and agreeing to it even though you've got no experience.

I liked it.
Retvrn to Forvms
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 28 2009 02:11 GMT
#66
On July 27 2009 17:33 poilord wrote:
At least we will get good casting at Blizzcon, as I just read on wheats homepage.
8/21 ~ 8/22 – BlizzCon Stream w/ djWHEAT, Tasteless, & Artosis. As expected, but I'm very happy they got the three guys again

edit: If everyone knew this already, just ignore this post.


oh god

thats like the very best lineup possible. I'm so excited
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
July 28 2009 05:02 GMT
#67
Cheers to Jesse for manning up and having a go at it.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
July 28 2009 05:06 GMT
#68
I'm just wondering how long we have to keep bumping this thread until he finds it.
ModeratorGodfather
daz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada643 Posts
July 28 2009 05:10 GMT
#69
they need to fly me out to korea to prevent something like this from happening in the future
Some eat to remember, some smash to forget. 2009msl.com
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
July 28 2009 05:13 GMT
#70
On July 28 2009 11:11 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2009 17:33 poilord wrote:
At least we will get good casting at Blizzcon, as I just read on wheats homepage.
8/21 ~ 8/22 – BlizzCon Stream w/ djWHEAT, Tasteless, & Artosis. As expected, but I'm very happy they got the three guys again

edit: If everyone knew this already, just ignore this post.


oh god

thats like the very best lineup possible. I'm so excited

Seriously. 3 of them is a dream lineup. Hope I can get a stream :D
POGGERS
ForSC2
Profile Joined June 2009
United States580 Posts
July 28 2009 07:08 GMT
#71
On July 28 2009 11:04 Chrispy wrote:
All things considered -- this guy did really good. Just picture yourself in his position, randomly being asked to commentate and agreeing to it even though you've got no experience.

I liked it.

I didn't think he did bad especially given his situation. What seems really weird is that he was put in the position in the first place by GOM which was very wtf.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2883#comic
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
July 28 2009 07:42 GMT
#72
He's OK but he is no Jason Lee.
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DrLefTy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States36 Posts
July 28 2009 07:49 GMT
#73
I thought it was pretty awesome. Did SDM literally grab the first white guy in the crowd he saw? This event kinda did make me miss Jason Lee, I loved the last time he casted... he was screaming into the mic when some zerg (I forget who) did an all-in hydra build. I played that for my friend who doesn't watch Starcraft and he was laughing so hard.
CongoJack
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada417 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 08:48:19
July 28 2009 08:38 GMT
#74
I must go check this out didn't know they would have a replacement for Tasteless. If this guy is as bad as everyone saying they should have just let SDM do it by himself he is good enough in my opinion.
nebffa
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Australia776 Posts
July 28 2009 10:37 GMT
#75
where can we see a video of this jason lee fellow in action?
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 14:44:19
July 28 2009 14:43 GMT
#76
One thing that annoys me about a lot of casters (Tasteless, Artosis, SDM and Husky all avoid this problem, thankfully) is when they start rushing their words out, trying to commentate the action and provide match/matchup analysis simultaneously.

Jesse stayed calm and spoke slowly and clearly, which gives him lots of points in my opinion.
shenlong
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
219 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 15:11:09
July 28 2009 14:57 GMT
#77
On July 26 2009 20:31 Manifesto7 wrote:
I think it is great he could have this experience. He has a great story to tell. Obviously he is not a professional nor is he trying to be.

That being said, it was a SEMI FINALS. Seriously GOM, if you are going to be Blizzard's chosen ones, you need to do a better job than that.


agreed, Jesse had no idea what he was talking about. He dosnt even follow GOM games, how could he not know effort vs jaedong games lol and his efforts of trying to be funny failed pretty
badly aswell

and also this was perfect proof that SDM jokes works best with tasteless lol, a lot of killed jokes by jesse during the cast

bad caster pick imo, artosis would of been a better choice
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
July 28 2009 15:20 GMT
#78
Lol!

Firstly -

On July 28 2009 23:57 zEroMiCro wrote:
He dosnt even follow GOM games,


There is video proof of him actually being at many, if not most, of the GomTV Season 3 games.

Secondly-

On July 28 2009 23:57 zEroMiCro wrote:artosis would of been a better choice


Artosis was at E-Stars with Tasteless. Hence the need for a replacement in the first place.
Prannon
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)7 Posts
July 28 2009 15:20 GMT
#79
On July 28 2009 14:06 Manifesto7 wrote:
I'm just wondering how long we have to keep bumping this thread until he finds it.


I found it! I actually checked the original thread, caught a lot of the hate. Sorry for ruining the game for some of you guys. I'm not exactly a social person and I'm not used to public speaking. I admit that I can never fill SDM's or Tasteless' or really any of the other casters' shoes. Also, I am just a casual fan of starcraft. I enjoy watching the game, and I'm not really into the proscene, nor do I follow all of the leagues. (I'm a little more worried about doing a good job as a teacher.) A few months ago I took a serious go of getting good at it, and I played Terran for about a month on Bnet, trying builds, experimenting with macro/micro, all that stuff. I lost a lot of games, won a few, and basically decided that it was more fun to just keep it casual.

Just to set the record straight on what happened, I was in the studio minding my own business, and I was actually gonna make a sign that said "Token White Guy." I was doing that when SDM walks up to me and asks me if I wanna cast with him. Literally, he just asked me that; it was about as spontaneous as it can get. I did what any fan (including all of you HATERS ) would've done. Who wouldn't pass up an opportunity like that? They stuck me in the shirt, put me in the chair, and off we went. I know I'm not a funny person, so I was trying to focus more on explaining the game for more casual viewers (I learned most of what I know about starcraft pro gaming through GOM) based on my relatively limited experiences. I did not get paid, nor do I want to be. To me, it was merely a unique experience that's good for my personal development and an interesting story I can tell a few years down the road.

Now, for the people criticizing GOM: Was it professional? No. Having tried it once, I've decided that I suck at casting and that the viewers would have enjoyed SDM by himself more. Plus, I could've said no after all. I don't intend to do it again either, since I'm rather flustered at my performance. That said, come on. Tasteless is gonna be back next week for the third place game and for the finals, so nobody's future is gonna be ruined here. I'm gonna go on being my casual fan self and won't intrude on the casting anymore.
Well, there you go.
tyreek
Profile Joined June 2009
United States141 Posts
July 28 2009 15:29 GMT
#80
On July 29 2009 00:20 Prannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2009 14:06 Manifesto7 wrote:
I'm just wondering how long we have to keep bumping this thread until he finds it.


I found it! I actually checked the original thread, caught a lot of the hate. Sorry for ruining the game for some of you guys. I'm not exactly a social person and I'm not used to public speaking. I admit that I can never fill SDM's or Tasteless' or really any of the other casters' shoes. Also, I am just a casual fan of starcraft. I enjoy watching the game, and I'm not really into the proscene, nor do I follow all of the leagues. (I'm a little more worried about doing a good job as a teacher.) A few months ago I took a serious go of getting good at it, and I played Terran for about a month on Bnet, trying builds, experimenting with macro/micro, all that stuff. I lost a lot of games, won a few, and basically decided that it was more fun to just keep it casual.

Just to set the record straight on what happened, I was in the studio minding my own business, and I was actually gonna make a sign that said "Token White Guy." I was doing that when SDM walks up to me and asks me if I wanna cast with him. Literally, he just asked me that; it was about as spontaneous as it can get. I did what any fan (including all of you HATERS ) would've done. Who wouldn't pass up an opportunity like that? They stuck me in the shirt, put me in the chair, and off we went. I know I'm not a funny person, so I was trying to focus more on explaining the game for more casual viewers (I learned most of what I know about starcraft pro gaming through GOM) based on my relatively limited experiences. I did not get paid, nor do I want to be. To me, it was merely a unique experience that's good for my personal development and an interesting story I can tell a few years down the road.

Now, for the people criticizing GOM: Was it professional? No. Having tried it once, I've decided that I suck at casting and that the viewers would have enjoyed SDM by himself more. Plus, I could've said no after all. I don't intend to do it again either, since I'm rather flustered at my performance. That said, come on. Tasteless is gonna be back next week for the third place game and for the finals, so nobody's future is gonna be ruined here. I'm gonna go on being my casual fan self and won't intrude on the casting anymore.


I was entertained with you casting with SDM and I also think that did you fine :p.
STORMMMMMMUUUUUUUUU
iD.NicKy
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
France767 Posts
July 28 2009 15:36 GMT
#81
On July 27 2009 14:11 Kennigit wrote:
Assuming Jason Lee was busy or whatever....there's lots of ex-pros who speak fluent english like toad who would have legitimized the league even further. If he really was from the crowd that is a HUGE blunder lol....i can't imagine that is the case.


toad is french which means his english sux
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 28 2009 17:03 GMT
#82
you really didnt do that bad of a job. I imagine anyone doing their first cast would have the same struggles. So don't feel too bad.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 28 2009 17:37 GMT
#83
On July 29 2009 00:20 jtype wrote:
Lol!

Firstly -

Show nested quote +
On July 28 2009 23:57 zEroMiCro wrote:
He dosnt even follow GOM games,


There is video proof of him actually being at many, if not most, of the GomTV Season 3 games.

Secondly-

Show nested quote +
On July 28 2009 23:57 zEroMiCro wrote:artosis would of been a better choice


Artosis was at E-Stars with Tasteless. Hence the need for a replacement in the first place.

He must be blind then, since he didn't know effort.


A terrible cast. What this scrub was doing in the studio is beyond me. His humor was terrible and he knew less about the game than my little sister. Random C-class SC2GG commentators would have been better. Heck, I'd have prefered even a guy talking Korean while Daniel Lee was casting in English. It was actually so bad that I didn't watch most of it, I just had it running on the background and got the results, but the casting was so abysmal that I couldn't have cared less about the games. Maybe I should have muted.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ZooG
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden618 Posts
July 28 2009 17:39 GMT
#84
so sdm just walked up and asked ya'? i think you did a fine job considering the circumstances
sjm 4tw!
"Rain, also a name for a meteorological condition" -Artosis
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 28 2009 17:42 GMT
#85
On July 29 2009 02:37 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 00:20 jtype wrote:
Lol!

Firstly -

On July 28 2009 23:57 zEroMiCro wrote:
He dosnt even follow GOM games,


There is video proof of him actually being at many, if not most, of the GomTV Season 3 games.

Secondly-

On July 28 2009 23:57 zEroMiCro wrote:artosis would of been a better choice


Artosis was at E-Stars with Tasteless. Hence the need for a replacement in the first place.

He must be blind then, since he didn't know effort.


A terrible cast. What this scrub was doing in the studio is beyond me. His humor was terrible and he knew less about the game than my little sister. Random C-class SC2GG commentators would have been better. Heck, I'd have prefered even a guy talking Korean while Daniel Lee was casting in English. It was actually so bad that I didn't watch most of it, I just had it running on the background and got the results, but the casting was so abysmal that I couldn't have cared less about the games. Maybe I should have muted.


nice post
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 28 2009 17:50 GMT
#86
On July 29 2009 02:37 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 00:20 jtype wrote:
Lol!

Firstly -

On July 28 2009 23:57 zEroMiCro wrote:
He dosnt even follow GOM games,


There is video proof of him actually being at many, if not most, of the GomTV Season 3 games.

Secondly-

On July 28 2009 23:57 zEroMiCro wrote:artosis would of been a better choice


Artosis was at E-Stars with Tasteless. Hence the need for a replacement in the first place.

He must be blind then, since he didn't know effort.


A terrible cast. What this scrub was doing in the studio is beyond me. His humor was terrible and he knew less about the game than my little sister. Random C-class SC2GG commentators would have been better. Heck, I'd have prefered even a guy talking Korean while Daniel Lee was casting in English. It was actually so bad that I didn't watch most of it, I just had it running on the background and got the results, but the casting was so abysmal that I couldn't have cared less about the games. Maybe I should have muted.


It's called a fan thread, not a bitch incessantly over petty standards thread.

And if you could have cared less, then you wouldn't be writing paragraphs on just how much you hate someone in what is a supportive thread.
Remember Violet.
Alsar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States130 Posts
July 28 2009 18:14 GMT
#87
I think he did alright for being thrown right in on the spot. I didn't watch a lot of it because I was too tired, but he seemed to be alright. Not the greatest but, not completely terrible to listen to.

But I agree that GOM shouldn't have done that in a semifinals. It's basically their mistake, not Jesse's for not knowing how to commentate well.

If they really couldn't find anyone else better for something as important as a semifinals, why not just have SDM cast by himself, like Tasteless used to for them?
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 18:23:11
July 28 2009 18:15 GMT
#88
Hmm? GTR trolling? You say you diden't even watch his first game and you think you can make assumptions about what this guy does or does not know?

Edit: And Konadora too? I thought you guys were against trolls.. He got very good after the game began, in my opinion, but you guys diden't even care to listen that far!
AKA SuddenSalad
ggnet)mOnion
Profile Joined June 2009
United States72 Posts
July 28 2009 19:12 GMT
#89
On July 29 2009 03:15 Lovin wrote:
Hmm? GTR trolling? You say you diden't even watch his first game and you think you can make assumptions about what this guy does or does not know?

Edit: And Konadora too? I thought you guys were against trolls.. He got very good after the game began, in my opinion, but you guys diden't even care to listen that far!


lol he never got good, idunno what you're talking about

i'm sure the guys nice, he has to be to subject himself to internet wrath. but the casts were indeed terrible. like even worse than mine, and i got flamed the fuck out.
KINETICAAAAAAAAAA
Quiteconfuzd
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway23 Posts
July 28 2009 19:22 GMT
#90
I have heard a lot worse casters..! It was a little shaky at the start but in the end his game casting was good :D Not the best, but for his first time at GOM he did much better than I expected.

Good work Jessie!
There is no such thing as curing addiction, you just trade one for another.
lueiGi2
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada24 Posts
July 28 2009 19:31 GMT
#91
Some people are taking this way too seriously.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
July 28 2009 19:43 GMT
#92
Guy made me watch WC3 instead of GOM, but tuned in for last game and it wasn't much better than at the beggining.People aren't trolling, they are saying the truth - he was clueless commentator who never should be allowed to commentate such important event, i dunno wtf was GOM thinking getting him, even as one-time replacement.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
July 28 2009 19:45 GMT
#93
Um, I thought you were good. It's always good to get a new perspective of the game once in a while and you provided that. To all the haters, you need to chill out.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
July 28 2009 19:56 GMT
#94
At first I thought he was terrible, but then as the games went on he got better. I still think sdm should of done it alone though.
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
July 28 2009 20:01 GMT
#95
On July 29 2009 00:20 Prannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2009 14:06 Manifesto7 wrote:
I'm just wondering how long we have to keep bumping this thread until he finds it.


I found it! I actually checked the original thread, caught a lot of the hate. Sorry for ruining the game for some of you guys. I'm not exactly a social person and I'm not used to public speaking. I admit that I can never fill SDM's or Tasteless' or really any of the other casters' shoes. Also, I am just a casual fan of starcraft. I enjoy watching the game, and I'm not really into the proscene, nor do I follow all of the leagues. (I'm a little more worried about doing a good job as a teacher.) A few months ago I took a serious go of getting good at it, and I played Terran for about a month on Bnet, trying builds, experimenting with macro/micro, all that stuff. I lost a lot of games, won a few, and basically decided that it was more fun to just keep it casual.

Just to set the record straight on what happened, I was in the studio minding my own business, and I was actually gonna make a sign that said "Token White Guy." I was doing that when SDM walks up to me and asks me if I wanna cast with him. Literally, he just asked me that; it was about as spontaneous as it can get. I did what any fan (including all of you HATERS ) would've done. Who wouldn't pass up an opportunity like that? They stuck me in the shirt, put me in the chair, and off we went. I know I'm not a funny person, so I was trying to focus more on explaining the game for more casual viewers (I learned most of what I know about starcraft pro gaming through GOM) based on my relatively limited experiences. I did not get paid, nor do I want to be. To me, it was merely a unique experience that's good for my personal development and an interesting story I can tell a few years down the road.

Now, for the people criticizing GOM: Was it professional? No. Having tried it once, I've decided that I suck at casting and that the viewers would have enjoyed SDM by himself more. Plus, I could've said no after all. I don't intend to do it again either, since I'm rather flustered at my performance. That said, come on. Tasteless is gonna be back next week for the third place game and for the finals, so nobody's future is gonna be ruined here. I'm gonna go on being my casual fan self and won't intrude on the casting anymore.


Good thing to see you didn't take any of the criticism to heart. People will complain, they always complain, but I'm sure that basically none of them would have said 'no' were they put in your position. Nobody ought to judge you for that (or indeed, at all).

You sound like a nice guy. Keep doing your thing, man.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 28 2009 20:13 GMT
#96
On July 29 2009 04:43 Itachii wrote:
Guy made me watch WC3 instead of GOM, but tuned in for last game and it wasn't much better than at the beggining.People aren't trolling, they are saying the truth - he was clueless commentator who never should be allowed to commentate such important event, i dunno wtf was GOM thinking getting him, even as one-time replacement.


That's GOM's fault, not the caster. Considering hes just some guy they grabbed from the audience who has only played a tiny bit I thought he did pretty good. He certainly did better than some of the youtube commentators, and they 1) dont have to go up infront of a bunch of fans in a studio, on their first cast, at a semi-finals, between two players who will generate a lot of interest, 2) have all the time in the world to practice, prepare and even edit it later on if they want to, 3) can select which casts they release.

I mean this guy was basically grabbed from the audience, given no time to prepare, in front of a huge live+internet audience and TV cameras on his first cast. I don't know if you watched some of tasteless' early solo GOM casts, but a couple of those got pretty painful too.

If you want to blame GOM for just grabbing some random guy to cast, go for it. But attacking a starcraft fan because they were invited to cast and did their best job is pretty pathetic.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
July 28 2009 20:44 GMT
#97
On July 29 2009 05:13 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 04:43 Itachii wrote:
Guy made me watch WC3 instead of GOM, but tuned in for last game and it wasn't much better than at the beggining.People aren't trolling, they are saying the truth - he was clueless commentator who never should be allowed to commentate such important event, i dunno wtf was GOM thinking getting him, even as one-time replacement.


That's GOM's fault, not the caster. Considering hes just some guy they grabbed from the audience who has only played a tiny bit I thought he did pretty good. He certainly did better than some of the youtube commentators, and they 1) dont have to go up infront of a bunch of fans in a studio, on their first cast, at a semi-finals, between two players who will generate a lot of interest, 2) have all the time in the world to practice, prepare and even edit it later on if they want to, 3) can select which casts they release.

I mean this guy was basically grabbed from the audience, given no time to prepare, in front of a huge live+internet audience and TV cameras on his first cast. I don't know if you watched some of tasteless' early solo GOM casts, but a couple of those got pretty painful too.

If you want to blame GOM for just grabbing some random guy to cast, go for it. But attacking a starcraft fan because they were invited to cast and did their best job is pretty pathetic.

Very well put, I fully agree with you.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 28 2009 20:44 GMT
#98
Glad to see you're not letting the haters/troll get to you Jesse.

I will agree that it would have been better with SDM by himself, and GOM F'ed up.

That being said, you did your best, and the people crying over you ruining the stream don't make a whole lot of sense to me. Just mute the audio if you really hate the commentary THAT MUCH. fusions is right in that Jesse was thrown on a Live TV set out of the blue, and that would be enough to make a lot of people a) nervous and b) mess up. I would be willing to bet all you guys freaking out about the whole thing wouldn't do a whole lot better. :/
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 20:57:18
July 28 2009 20:55 GMT
#99
On July 29 2009 00:20 Prannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2009 14:06 Manifesto7 wrote:
I'm just wondering how long we have to keep bumping this thread until he finds it.


I found it! I actually checked the original thread, caught a lot of the hate. Sorry for ruining the game for some of you guys. I'm not exactly a social person and I'm not used to public speaking. I admit that I can never fill SDM's or Tasteless' or really any of the other casters' shoes. Also, I am just a casual fan of starcraft. I enjoy watching the game, and I'm not really into the proscene, nor do I follow all of the leagues. (I'm a little more worried about doing a good job as a teacher.) A few months ago I took a serious go of getting good at it, and I played Terran for about a month on Bnet, trying builds, experimenting with macro/micro, all that stuff. I lost a lot of games, won a few, and basically decided that it was more fun to just keep it casual.

Just to set the record straight on what happened, I was in the studio minding my own business, and I was actually gonna make a sign that said "Token White Guy." I was doing that when SDM walks up to me and asks me if I wanna cast with him. Literally, he just asked me that; it was about as spontaneous as it can get. I did what any fan (including all of you HATERS ) would've done. Who wouldn't pass up an opportunity like that? They stuck me in the shirt, put me in the chair, and off we went. I know I'm not a funny person, so I was trying to focus more on explaining the game for more casual viewers (I learned most of what I know about starcraft pro gaming through GOM) based on my relatively limited experiences. I did not get paid, nor do I want to be. To me, it was merely a unique experience that's good for my personal development and an interesting story I can tell a few years down the road.

Now, for the people criticizing GOM: Was it professional? No. Having tried it once, I've decided that I suck at casting and that the viewers would have enjoyed SDM by himself more. Plus, I could've said no after all. I don't intend to do it again either, since I'm rather flustered at my performance. That said, come on. Tasteless is gonna be back next week for the third place game and for the finals, so nobody's future is gonna be ruined here. I'm gonna go on being my casual fan self and won't intrude on the casting anymore.


Oh my fucking god you are my idol. It wasn't that bad brah just not the shoes you'd wanna fill on your first go, look on the bright side - atleast you didn't pee yourself on stream like the basementwankers flaming in this thread would. :-)
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ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 20:59:32
July 28 2009 20:57 GMT
#100
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On July 29 2009 00:20 Prannon wrote:
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On July 28 2009 14:06 Manifesto7 wrote:
I'm just wondering how long we have to keep bumping this thread until he finds it.


I found it! I actually checked the original thread, caught a lot of the hate. Sorry for ruining the game for some of you guys. I'm not exactly a social person and I'm not used to public speaking. I admit that I can never fill SDM's or Tasteless' or really any of the other casters' shoes. Also, I am just a casual fan of starcraft. I enjoy watching the game, and I'm not really into the proscene, nor do I follow all of the leagues. (I'm a little more worried about doing a good job as a teacher.) A few months ago I took a serious go of getting good at it, and I played Terran for about a month on Bnet, trying builds, experimenting with macro/micro, all that stuff. I lost a lot of games, won a few, and basically decided that it was more fun to just keep it casual.

Just to set the record straight on what happened, I was in the studio minding my own business, and I was actually gonna make a sign that said "Token White Guy." I was doing that when SDM walks up to me and asks me if I wanna cast with him. Literally, he just asked me that; it was about as spontaneous as it can get. I did what any fan (including all of you HATERS ) would've done. Who wouldn't pass up an opportunity like that? They stuck me in the shirt, put me in the chair, and off we went. I know I'm not a funny person, so I was trying to focus more on explaining the game for more casual viewers (I learned most of what I know about starcraft pro gaming through GOM) based on my relatively limited experiences. I did not get paid, nor do I want to be. To me, it was merely a unique experience that's good for my personal development and an interesting story I can tell a few years down the road.

Now, for the people criticizing GOM: Was it professional? No. Having tried it once, I've decided that I suck at casting and that the viewers would have enjoyed SDM by himself more. Plus, I could've said no after all. I don't intend to do it again either, since I'm rather flustered at my performance. That said, come on. Tasteless is gonna be back next week for the third place game and for the finals, so nobody's future is gonna be ruined here. I'm gonna go on being my casual fan self and won't intrude on the casting anymore.
I respect that alot...I really do, very well written.
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 28 2009 20:59 GMT
#101
On July 29 2009 02:37 Shikyo wrote:
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On July 29 2009 00:20 jtype wrote:
Lol!

Firstly -

On July 28 2009 23:57 zEroMiCro wrote:
He dosnt even follow GOM games,


There is video proof of him actually being at many, if not most, of the GomTV Season 3 games.

Secondly-

On July 28 2009 23:57 zEroMiCro wrote:artosis would of been a better choice


Artosis was at E-Stars with Tasteless. Hence the need for a replacement in the first place.

He must be blind then, since he didn't know effort.


A terrible cast. What this scrub was doing in the studio is beyond me. His humor was terrible and he knew less about the game than my little sister. Random C-class SC2GG commentators would have been better. Heck, I'd have prefered even a guy talking Korean while Daniel Lee was casting in English. It was actually so bad that I didn't watch most of it, I just had it running on the background and got the results, but the casting was so abysmal that I couldn't have cared less about the games. Maybe I should have muted.


SC2GG commentators are mostly D-, as far as I know.
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Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
July 28 2009 21:30 GMT
#102
Some serious jackasses in this thread.

You did great for being plucked randomly out of the audience, Jessie. I thought it was interesting, and it didn't take anything away from the games for me. You certainly did a lot better than I would have done in the same situation.

Fuck the haters Jessie, you did damn fine given the situation.
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DocHoliday
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany25 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 22:37:39
July 28 2009 22:36 GMT
#103
Never ever let the haters get to you. If I were at that studio and SDM asked me to cast with him, I'd have agreed immediately aswell (well, if I had the guts in that situation, no way to know until it happens), although my only knowledge of StarCraft comes from watching GOM (and lately proleague). This was just a tremendous opportunity for you, and I'm glad you took it.

No one can expect you to be as good as Tasteless or SDM. The most important thing was, that you kept your calm the entire time, although you were nervous of course. You always spoke very clearly and said what you could given your knowledge of SC. Biggest mistake a commentator can make is annoying the viewers, and you sure did not do that (well, if lack of knowledge annoys someone, you did, but that couldn't be helped). What I want to say is, that you did an excellent job considering your knowledge and preparation and impressed me quite a lot.

If there is any blame to throw around, throw it at GOM, and to an extend at SDM. I guess it was a spontanious idea, which makes him very likable, but he really shouldn't have forgotten your name, that was really really bad of him.
Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
July 28 2009 22:56 GMT
#104
I didnt think he knew that much about starcraft, seemed like a really casual gamer, but he was okay to listen to.
goldenkrnboi
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3104 Posts
July 29 2009 00:06 GMT
#105
i don't know about you guys, but saying "fuck the haters" is getting pretty fucking old.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-29 00:27:08
July 29 2009 00:17 GMT
#106
It's not annoying to me because if the "haters" want any credence, they will rationally state why they don't like Jessie instead of going "fuck everything, fuck GOM, Jessie you suck". Lol, also the name of this thread is the "Super Jessie Man Fan Thread"

I thought it was decent, the best part was that there were no annoying ticks in your speech and at least your knowledge of SC, if not the pro scene, was decent.
You were too calm though, and it's okay to scream at exciting things even if it feels awkward.
Jaedong
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-29 00:28:54
July 29 2009 00:28 GMT
#107
On July 29 2009 00:20 Prannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2009 14:06 Manifesto7 wrote:
I'm just wondering how long we have to keep bumping this thread until he finds it.


I found it! I actually checked the original thread, caught a lot of the hate. Sorry for ruining the game for some of you guys. I'm not exactly a social person and I'm not used to public speaking. I admit that I can never fill SDM's or Tasteless' or really any of the other casters' shoes. Also, I am just a casual fan of starcraft. I enjoy watching the game, and I'm not really into the proscene, nor do I follow all of the leagues. (I'm a little more worried about doing a good job as a teacher.) A few months ago I took a serious go of getting good at it, and I played Terran for about a month on Bnet, trying builds, experimenting with macro/micro, all that stuff. I lost a lot of games, won a few, and basically decided that it was more fun to just keep it casual.

Just to set the record straight on what happened, I was in the studio minding my own business, and I was actually gonna make a sign that said "Token White Guy." I was doing that when SDM walks up to me and asks me if I wanna cast with him. Literally, he just asked me that; it was about as spontaneous as it can get. I did what any fan (including all of you HATERS ) would've done. Who wouldn't pass up an opportunity like that? They stuck me in the shirt, put me in the chair, and off we went. I know I'm not a funny person, so I was trying to focus more on explaining the game for more casual viewers (I learned most of what I know about starcraft pro gaming through GOM) based on my relatively limited experiences. I did not get paid, nor do I want to be. To me, it was merely a unique experience that's good for my personal development and an interesting story I can tell a few years down the road.

Now, for the people criticizing GOM: Was it professional? No. Having tried it once, I've decided that I suck at casting and that the viewers would have enjoyed SDM by himself more. Plus, I could've said no after all. I don't intend to do it again either, since I'm rather flustered at my performance. That said, come on. Tasteless is gonna be back next week for the third place game and for the finals, so nobody's future is gonna be ruined here. I'm gonna go on being my casual fan self and won't intrude on the casting anymore.



Lol wtf, that is freaking stupid, why did SDM do that -_-
And yes you're right, any sane person / person who's not a pussy would have agreed to co-host with him.
And yeah your cast was horrible but since I have a sense of humour I still thoroughly enjoyed it


On July 27 2009 14:11 Kennigit wrote:
Assuming Jason Lee was busy or whatever....there's lots of ex-pros who speak fluent english like toad who would have legitimized the league even further. If he really was from the crowd that is a HUGE blunder lol....i can't imagine that is the case.


? Do you mean ToD or do you actually mean toad? cause I don't think you can consider toad an ex-pro ^^
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Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
July 29 2009 00:42 GMT
#108
Just laugh it off Jessie
zimz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States510 Posts
July 29 2009 00:45 GMT
#109
Jessie i think you did pretty good. and calm. i hope you consider become SC caster.
zimz
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
July 29 2009 01:01 GMT
#110
On July 29 2009 00:20 Prannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2009 14:06 Manifesto7 wrote:
I'm just wondering how long we have to keep bumping this thread until he finds it.


I found it! I actually checked the original thread, caught a lot of the hate. Sorry for ruining the game for some of you guys. I'm not exactly a social person and I'm not used to public speaking. I admit that I can never fill SDM's or Tasteless' or really any of the other casters' shoes. Also, I am just a casual fan of starcraft. I enjoy watching the game, and I'm not really into the proscene, nor do I follow all of the leagues. (I'm a little more worried about doing a good job as a teacher.) A few months ago I took a serious go of getting good at it, and I played Terran for about a month on Bnet, trying builds, experimenting with macro/micro, all that stuff. I lost a lot of games, won a few, and basically decided that it was more fun to just keep it casual.

Just to set the record straight on what happened, I was in the studio minding my own business, and I was actually gonna make a sign that said "Token White Guy." I was doing that when SDM walks up to me and asks me if I wanna cast with him. Literally, he just asked me that; it was about as spontaneous as it can get. I did what any fan (including all of you HATERS ) would've done. Who wouldn't pass up an opportunity like that? They stuck me in the shirt, put me in the chair, and off we went. I know I'm not a funny person, so I was trying to focus more on explaining the game for more casual viewers (I learned most of what I know about starcraft pro gaming through GOM) based on my relatively limited experiences. I did not get paid, nor do I want to be. To me, it was merely a unique experience that's good for my personal development and an interesting story I can tell a few years down the road.

Now, for the people criticizing GOM: Was it professional? No. Having tried it once, I've decided that I suck at casting and that the viewers would have enjoyed SDM by himself more. Plus, I could've said no after all. I don't intend to do it again either, since I'm rather flustered at my performance. That said, come on. Tasteless is gonna be back next week for the third place game and for the finals, so nobody's future is gonna be ruined here. I'm gonna go on being my casual fan self and won't intrude on the casting anymore.

wow, how could people still complain after a post like this? You did great considering the circumstances. Some people are just dicks
TheRecliner
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden103 Posts
July 29 2009 01:15 GMT
#111
Jessie, you got yourself a memory for life there, man. Thats something to be happy about. I certainly kept watching and enjoyed the games.

... and people whining about Jessie not being very familiar about Effort?

How about when SDM and Tasteless were both clueless about who Luxury was after he had been tearing thru everything for quite some time and even winning the MSL just prior to the match they were going to cast. Facepalm.

Jessie getting a chance to do something way out of the ordinary (at the viewers expense) doesnt really bother me, since SDM and Tasteless allready annoy me abit. Their fabled comedy value has imo dropped considerably, and their professionalism is random at best. I dont know what kind of contract they have with GOM - they may just be payed for time actually spent in the studio, but they dont do any research. Information they provide about players is mostly general common knowledge, which they at times are oblivious about as well.

In that respect, I personally miss Lil' Susie who made sure the players were introduced beyond "this guy is sooooo good" or "we dont know much about him". Artosis should be good at this as well, but I dont know. I dont speak korean, and cant easily pick up on information beyond "whos making the finals in tournament X". I have no access to real flavour info, and its not being provided during the casts either.

The format of the GOMTV casting is lacking. Casting during the game should imo be done as in any sport. One play-by-play caster, and one doing color commentary. A third person (who does not take part in the game casting) should be added "in the studio" between matches, doing introductions and asking valid questions about the game you are about to see/the one you just saw. This is a role Lil' Susie, or Artosis, or anyone else with a modicum of media and pro scene knowledge could fill.

As is, the roles could be better defined between SDM and Tasteless (they often try to fill both roles, with Tasteless simply being the one that talks more), and the third "host" role is completely missing as the in-between-games parts often degenerate into random discussion or Tasteless plugging his latest website project.

Ok, sorry, long post. I guess my point is "so what if Jessie was part of the cast, its still not a piece of happiness between two slices of heaven without him".
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
July 29 2009 08:49 GMT
#112
On July 29 2009 00:20 Prannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2009 14:06 Manifesto7 wrote:
I'm just wondering how long we have to keep bumping this thread until he finds it.


I found it! I actually checked the original thread, caught a lot of the hate. Sorry for ruining the game for some of you guys. I'm not exactly a social person and I'm not used to public speaking. I admit that I can never fill SDM's or Tasteless' or really any of the other casters' shoes. Also, I am just a casual fan of starcraft. I enjoy watching the game, and I'm not really into the proscene, nor do I follow all of the leagues. (I'm a little more worried about doing a good job as a teacher.) A few months ago I took a serious go of getting good at it, and I played Terran for about a month on Bnet, trying builds, experimenting with macro/micro, all that stuff. I lost a lot of games, won a few, and basically decided that it was more fun to just keep it casual.

Just to set the record straight on what happened, I was in the studio minding my own business, and I was actually gonna make a sign that said "Token White Guy." I was doing that when SDM walks up to me and asks me if I wanna cast with him. Literally, he just asked me that; it was about as spontaneous as it can get. I did what any fan (including all of you HATERS ) would've done. Who wouldn't pass up an opportunity like that? They stuck me in the shirt, put me in the chair, and off we went. I know I'm not a funny person, so I was trying to focus more on explaining the game for more casual viewers (I learned most of what I know about starcraft pro gaming through GOM) based on my relatively limited experiences. I did not get paid, nor do I want to be. To me, it was merely a unique experience that's good for my personal development and an interesting story I can tell a few years down the road.

Now, for the people criticizing GOM: Was it professional? No. Having tried it once, I've decided that I suck at casting and that the viewers would have enjoyed SDM by himself more. Plus, I could've said no after all. I don't intend to do it again either, since I'm rather flustered at my performance. That said, come on. Tasteless is gonna be back next week for the third place game and for the finals, so nobody's future is gonna be ruined here. I'm gonna go on being my casual fan self and won't intrude on the casting anymore.


hey I think you did a great job considering you are just a casual viewer. Reading the comments before I watched the videos I expected horrifyingly bad commentary but that really wasn't the case at all. You are a lot better than most Youtube casters considering this was your first time and in a pressure position.

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WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
July 29 2009 09:09 GMT
#113
He did alright imo. I don't understand how people can bash him so much. Yes, his understanding might not be very deep but considering he is a casual gamer, he did much better than most people would have.

When people compared him to Tasteless and SDM, they made them seem so much better. Truth is, I find many flaws in Tasteless and SDM's casts as well. For example, they might get the players mixed up when commentation. They might name the b/o wrong ( saw this many times when they called overpool "9 pool"). They might say one player has a huge advantage when he actually doesn't. They might say this move is a bad idea but it actually isn't (and sometimes the player does what SDM and Tasteless said was bad and still came out advantageous). The list goes on.

I understand it was a mistake by GOM to do this for the semis so give this guy a break. It wasn't his fault. In fact, he did much better than what the haters described. Plus, he seems like a nice guy so stop hating.
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
July 29 2009 09:13 GMT
#114
Jessie did good in my opinion. He'd make a perfect third commentator along side SDM and Tasteless. I loved his voice and how he pointed out basic things you need to understand about the games in a very calm way.
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lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
July 29 2009 09:16 GMT
#115
I thought that it was much better to have a co-comentator to SDM then that he would have to cast alone.
Even though Jessie wasnt brilliant he did a good job and allowed SDM to not stress out over the comentary.I remember first season of GOM when Tasteless was casting alone and it was horrible, even worse when Jason Lee was doing it. It would have been to hard for SDM to cast by himself and I think Jessie helped out fine.
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jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
July 29 2009 09:20 GMT
#116
On July 29 2009 04:43 Itachii wrote:
Guy made me watch WC3 instead of GOM, but tuned in for last game


To be honest that says more about you than it does about him.
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1686 Posts
July 29 2009 09:33 GMT
#117
Come on now guys, Tasteless really isn't that great of a caster...
sigma_x
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia285 Posts
July 29 2009 09:44 GMT
#118
I just went and watched one of the games you broadcasted. Jessie, you did one hell of a fine job given your circumstances. You should be proud
Prannon
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)7 Posts
December 05 2017 07:25 GMT
#119
Blast from the past! Holy man cakes batman!

I'm very, very sorry for resurrecting such a necrotic thread, but I have a sincere ask. Does anyone happen to have videos of my terrible, terrible casts that this thread is based on? I cannot - for the life of me - find any record of my awfulness on the internet anywhere.

It's been nearly 8 years, and I honestly just want to relive this moment.

To mods: Please feel free to lock this thread and ban me if this is BS. No hard feelings at all.
Well, there you go.
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