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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
July 15 2009 14:35 GMT
#41
On July 15 2009 23:10 Crahptacular wrote:
I'm incredibly disappointed in CJ that they didn't put up Much ;___; I for one think he's still a very relevant player, even if the CJ staff seems to disagree.


His 3-7 in his last ten suggest the CJ staff is right...

But I'm inclined to believe he would've been better than Nbs. Snow might've even been the best choice. Go figure, they know more than I do. Go CJ.
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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
July 15 2009 18:38 GMT
#42
Goddamn CJ has 7 capable players (Effort, Savior, Kwanro, Much, Movie, Iris, and Skyhigh) to play in a BO7...
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
July 16 2009 02:55 GMT
#43
On July 15 2009 23:10 Crahptacular wrote:
I'm incredibly disappointed in CJ that they didn't put up Much ;___; I for one think he's still a very relevant player, even if the CJ staff seems to disagree.


Much has a good mind for strategy. He's probably more useful not playing but helping his team mates formulate strategy.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
July 16 2009 03:00 GMT
#44
I agree with all sentiments expressed in the OP.

Oh, and the player standing in the middle row, third from right was mis-tlpdized as (Z)Style, when it should be (T)By.Style (aka (T)VeloCity).
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 22:29:12
July 17 2009 22:29 GMT
#45
On July 16 2009 11:55 The Storyteller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2009 23:10 Crahptacular wrote:
I'm incredibly disappointed in CJ that they didn't put up Much ;___; I for one think he's still a very relevant player, even if the CJ staff seems to disagree.


Much has a good mind for strategy. He's probably more useful not playing but helping his team mates formulate strategy.


Much is most likely a mastermind along with savior and iris planing out strats for all their MU's
CJ ftw!
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
July 20 2009 06:15 GMT
#46
So with the next round on the way it does seem like CJ has a good shot at making the finals. It's going to be really, really tough beating SKT1, but I think they have a decent chance of beating Khan and Oz.

This PL format actually doesn't just favour teams with depth, it favours teams with depth + one super duper player who has a 99% chance of winning aces.

CJ's good A class players (Iris, SkyHigh, Kwanro, maybe Movie) should be able to at least hold Khan to a draw to rely on Effort for the last ace the way they did with Hite, and those same players should be able to 4-2 Oz before Jaedong comes into play.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
July 20 2009 06:25 GMT
#47
GTR i always thought you were a Sparkyz fan, when did you switch to CJ?

regardless, I'm so happy they got through to the next round, especially movie winning an ace match and effort getting his revenge against yarnc in the super-ace. i don't think any team outside of SKT1 can stand up to CJ's line, it would be such a ridiculous finals match up if they faced each other, i would seriously go crazy.

that super ace match i was so on edge, holy shit
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51707 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 06:37:30
July 20 2009 06:37 GMT
#48
i switched when greg joined the team a long time ago and sparkyz sold off half of it's members to ktf
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