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Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-20 02:03:56
May 03 2009 05:07 GMT
#1
last update, really. the vods from the event can be seen here:
VOD set 1
VOD set 2
VOD set 3

and a quick question: did the replays from this event get released? i've been really super busy and didn't keep track if they got out yet. let me know so i can go find them if they didn't.

From now on we will be using YouTube, so there won't be any troubles viewing the videos.

Last video: IdrA/White-Ra/TossGirl on stage
Award Ceremony

Eleventh video: View of IdrA + White-Ra in press room interview
Press Room Interview

Tenth video: IdrA on stage after winning
IdrA on stage after win

Ninth video: IdrA interviewed after defeating TossGirl
IdrA over TossGirl

Eighth video: Walk with White-Ra to Grand Final Stage - Amazing Interview
White-Ra AMAZING interview + Grand Final Stage

Seventh video: Walk with IdrA to Grand Final Stage
IdrA to Grand Final Stage

Sixth video: IdrA interview after victory over TossGirl
IdrA over TossGirl

Fifth video: IdrA interview after victory over Super
IdrA over Super

Fourth video: White-Ra interview after victory over IdrA
White-Ra over IdrA

Third video: Player hardware + hand speed
Hardware+handspeed

Second video: Tour of ESWC + IdrA/Super/White-Ra practicing.
ESWC Tour + Practice time

First video: White-Ra teaches IdrA some manners
White-Ra + IdrA

I will be updating this thread a whole ton today. If anyone has something in particular they want to see or know or asked or whatever, let me know and I'll probably include it at some point.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
Tyrant
Profile Joined September 2003
Korea (South)234 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-03 05:17:52
May 03 2009 05:12 GMT
#2
Nice! Will there be a stream to watch these games? Or if they've already been played does anyone know where they might be posted? ^^
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
May 03 2009 05:12 GMT
#3
Fun interview!

I like that he called him a smart protoss =). I hope for good games!
fonger
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United Kingdom1218 Posts
May 03 2009 05:12 GMT
#4
Cool interview and great job on switching to YouTube. Thanks!
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
May 03 2009 05:13 GMT
#5
haha humble IdrA is humble
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 03 2009 05:14 GMT
#6
ARTOSIS IS LOIKE SO CUTE
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
May 03 2009 05:17 GMT
#7
lol nice title to attract more people :D
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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
May 03 2009 05:19 GMT
#8
As short as that was, I enjoyed it. Besides Idra being "humble" he actually seemed a lot more comfortable. Hopefully he does well. Nice to see a video of White Ra too.
zeuS~
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States193 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-03 05:20:11
May 03 2009 05:19 GMT
#9
lol toss girl ftw!!!! + Show Spoiler +
=( i hope she at least beats one person >_<
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
May 03 2009 05:20 GMT
#10
haha thats gotta suck for Idra, being insulted on camera, knowing its gonna be posted on here/all over the BW scene.. Guess it really bites you in the ass when you are a dick to everyone.
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
May 03 2009 05:24 GMT
#11
On May 03 2009 14:20 Skyze wrote:
haha thats gotta suck for Idra, being insulted on camera, knowing its gonna be posted on here/all over the BW scene.. Guess it really bites you in the ass when you are a dick to everyone.


I think it was more of a friendly tease if anything. Idra and Artosis have a mutaul respect for each other, and they're both friends so it's a tease with no intent of harm
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-03 05:28:00
May 03 2009 05:24 GMT
#12
nice one, and yeah good switch to youtube, that download time was killer.

super will win this, tossgirl 4th and hard to say who the runner up will be.
hi
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
May 03 2009 05:25 GMT
#13
what did he say at the end? i couldn't catch it
You can't fight the feeling.
StalinRusH
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States734 Posts
May 03 2009 05:25 GMT
#14
haha thats awesome idra complementing a foreigner protoss thats crazy...well i guess it is white-ra and everyone loves white-ra
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Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
May 03 2009 05:28 GMT
#15
lol nice
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
May 03 2009 05:34 GMT
#16
Haha Idra is evolving.

From Idra level of BM to Nony level of BM. Not smart enough to respect others, but at least smart enough to act in front of an audience. At this rate, maybe in 10 or 20 years he will finally become an adult.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
theobsessed1
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States576 Posts
May 03 2009 05:36 GMT
#17
I personally don't think IdrA is BM at all, he's just doing it for the luls.
정명훈 화이팅!~
Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
May 03 2009 05:38 GMT
#18
have you guys ever seen idra being bm in front of the camera?
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
May 03 2009 05:41 GMT
#19
UPDATE:

Second video: Tour of ESWC + IdrA/Super/White-Ra practicing.
ESWC Tour + Practice time

I will be updating this thread a whole ton today. If anyone has something in particular they want to see or know or asked or whatever, let me know and I'll probably include it at some point.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
May 03 2009 05:43 GMT
#20
On May 03 2009 14:38 Ash wrote:
have you guys ever seen (T)IdrA being bm in front of the camera?


True, he always looks like your average american, a bit shy but modest and polite.

Anyway, can't wait for the matches, perhaps (T)ToSsGirL will destroy everyone.
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VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-03 05:46:17
May 03 2009 05:45 GMT
#21
Wow thanks a lot Artosis, that is really nice.

If it's possible I would like to see you interview super ^^ just wanted to know a little bit more about him.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
May 03 2009 05:46 GMT
#22
no1 knows what white-ra said at the end? T_T
You can't fight the feeling.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
May 03 2009 05:52 GMT
#23
its cuz its irl obv

keyboard warrior

artosis ur a funny fucker i cant get enough
why so 진지해?
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
May 03 2009 05:55 GMT
#24
In other news, IdrA and BoxeR are of the same caliber according to the ELO ranking.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
May 03 2009 05:55 GMT
#25
THOSE NUMBERS PROBABLY BAD MANNERED U

LOLFDLSJFOSLOLOLOL

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
why so 진지해?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
May 03 2009 05:57 GMT
#26
hahaha so white-ra can only beat on the computer and strelok
Commentator
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
May 03 2009 05:57 GMT
#27
On May 03 2009 14:38 Ash wrote:
have you guys ever seen idra being bm in front of the camera?

yes
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-03 05:59:59
May 03 2009 05:59 GMT
#28
I like seeing them take it in good fun. Idra sorta smirking when Art says "These numbers probably badmannered you."

Good stuff.

Good vids. excited to see more.
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
May 03 2009 06:00 GMT
#29
On May 03 2009 14:57 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2009 14:38 Ash wrote:
have you guys ever seen idra being bm in front of the camera?

yes
He made an interview with artosis a long time ago where he trashed talked euros a lot. While it was clear that he was joking, he still pissed off tons of people here on the forums lol
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
May 03 2009 06:01 GMT
#30
I can't believe what bw is becoming recently for foreigners. Imagine all this even in 2004? Artosis sickest work as always, i am loving every second of this.
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
May 03 2009 06:07 GMT
#31
Thanks for the coverage. Looking forward to watching them all!
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8098 Posts
May 03 2009 06:08 GMT
#32
awesome interviews so far, artosis you make foreign SC so much better :D
Free Palestine
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
May 03 2009 06:09 GMT
#33
I am going to make a super interview at some point, and i want goooooooood questions for it, because i can only do it once. we have no english->chinese translators, so i have to use english=>korean korean=>chinese chinese=>korean korean=>english. a TOTAL pain. so let me know exact questions people want to hear.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
May 03 2009 06:16 GMT
#34
On May 03 2009 15:09 Artosis wrote:
I am going to make a super interview at some point, and i want goooooooood questions for it, because i can only do it once. we have no english->chinese translators, so i have to use english=>korean korean=>chinese chinese=>korean korean=>english. a TOTAL pain. so let me know exact questions people want to hear.
Wow thanks. Ask him:

- Who have you been practicing with for this event?

- How do you describe your own play style: aggressive, standard, creative or what?

- How strong do you think China is in starcraft compared against Koreans and compared against the rest of the world?
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
May 03 2009 06:28 GMT
#35
what did white-ra say at the end? I seriously don't understand what he said
You can't fight the feeling.
radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
May 03 2009 06:29 GMT
#36
Who do you think are the best non-korean/chinese players?

Is there a player that seems to have your number? If so, why?

What do you think is the best way to deal with the Chinese lag issues for online tournaments?

What do you think of F91 owning the bejeezus out of everyone in Liquibition?

Rank your own matchups best to worst.

Proudest moment as a BW player?

Are you friends with all the top players in China (e.g. PJ, LX, F91, etc)? Do you practice together all the time? Any funny anecdotes from knowing them for so many years?

What are your favorite maps of all time to play? To watch games?

Do you watch and study Korean pro games to improve your own play? What do you look for?

What's your practice schedule like?
impatience is a virtue
ThisIsJimmy
Profile Joined July 2004
United States546 Posts
May 03 2009 06:31 GMT
#37
Haha great videos. Thanks Artosis. The stage and venue look awesome
Twitter @_ThisIsJimmy_
zeuS~
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States193 Posts
May 03 2009 06:37 GMT
#38
hey where is tossgirl practicing? wassn't in the video =(
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
May 03 2009 06:42 GMT
#39
nononononononono youtube is unavailable in china.....
fonger
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United Kingdom1218 Posts
May 03 2009 06:43 GMT
#40
On May 03 2009 15:42 omninmo wrote:
nononononononono youtube is unavailable in china.....

holy shit
+ Show Spoiler +
immune to rickroll?
CongoJack
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada417 Posts
May 03 2009 06:51 GMT
#41
Awesome videos Artosis you rock.
gusbear
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
333 Posts
May 03 2009 06:56 GMT
#42
yo artosis next time don't film backlit u cant see anyones face
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
May 03 2009 07:02 GMT
#43
nice one Artosis


i loled at the OP
fromis_9 enjoyer
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
May 03 2009 07:04 GMT
#44
Third video: Player hardware + hand speed
Hardware+handspeed
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
May 03 2009 07:04 GMT
#45
awesome vids artosis! keep us informed!
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
SwaY-
Profile Joined March 2009
Dominican Republic463 Posts
May 03 2009 07:05 GMT
#46
Title is misleading, I thought white ra was going to humiliate him or something
give me mah moneh back.
Do it beautifully
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
May 03 2009 07:13 GMT
#47
Nice vids, and thanks for using youtube.
Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
May 03 2009 07:48 GMT
#48
Cool man, keep 'em coming!
(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-03 08:01:48
May 03 2009 08:01 GMT
#49
edit: wrong thread oops
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
May 03 2009 08:20 GMT
#50
Hmm, really weird. I can't get scforall to load.
PlutoNZ
Profile Joined February 2008
New Zealand410 Posts
May 03 2009 08:32 GMT
#51
On May 03 2009 17:20 SnowFantasy wrote:
Hmm, really weird. I can't get scforall to load.

I can't either. ): I've been trying for the past couple hours.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
May 03 2009 08:35 GMT
#52
Alright, not just me then. I'll try finding them on youtube lol.
PlutoNZ
Profile Joined February 2008
New Zealand410 Posts
May 03 2009 08:37 GMT
#53
On May 03 2009 17:35 SnowFantasy wrote:
Alright, not just me then. I'll try finding them on youtube lol.

I found them. (: I wont post link because it is denying SCForAll website views.
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
May 03 2009 08:41 GMT
#54
yeah sites down atm, wow what a gr9 time for it to go down. on a happier note, Live: IdrA vs Super in about 20 minutes.

we'll post some more videos as soon as teh sites back up.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
streampowered
Profile Joined April 2009
United States60 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-03 08:43:12
May 03 2009 08:41 GMT
#55
On May 03 2009 15:16 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2009 15:09 Artosis wrote:
I am going to make a super interview at some point, and i want goooooooood questions for it, because i can only do it once. we have no english->chinese translators, so i have to use english=>korean korean=>chinese chinese=>korean korean=>english. a TOTAL pain. so let me know exact questions people want to hear.
Wow thanks. Ask him:

- Who have you been practicing with for this event?

- How do you describe your own play style: aggressive, standard, creative or what?

- How strong do you think China is in starcraft compared against Koreans and compared against the rest of the world?

he wanted good questions

maybe in 10-20 years you will be smart enough to come up with some?
PlutoNZ
Profile Joined February 2008
New Zealand410 Posts
May 03 2009 08:42 GMT
#56
On May 03 2009 17:41 Artosis wrote:
yeah sites down atm, wow what a gr9 time for it to go down. on a happier note, Live: IdrA vs Super in about 20 minutes.

we'll post some more videos as soon as teh sites back up.

Does that mean Idra > White ra? :o
zeuS~
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States193 Posts
May 03 2009 08:44 GMT
#57
lmfao in video 3 that mousepad super is using is crazy big WOW
Hundredth
Profile Joined November 2008
United Kingdom142 Posts
May 03 2009 08:47 GMT
#58
Sick
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
May 03 2009 08:53 GMT
#59
Yeah I found the youtube videos and they're great. I'll go back to scforall once the site is up so they can get a view there i guess lol. >.>
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
May 03 2009 08:58 GMT
#60
On May 03 2009 17:42 SearingShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2009 17:41 Artosis wrote:
yeah sites down atm, wow what a gr9 time for it to go down. on a happier note, Live: IdrA vs Super in about 20 minutes.

we'll post some more videos as soon as teh sites back up.

Does that mean Idra > White ra? :o



+ Show Spoiler +
Check LR thread, Ra 2-1 Idra.
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Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
May 03 2009 09:02 GMT
#61
i cant see the videos, scforall is unaccesable
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Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
May 03 2009 09:46 GMT
#62
Awesome cast man

About the stream quality: the audio was a little ahead of the video
(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
The.Crow
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
619 Posts
May 03 2009 09:54 GMT
#63
The beast from the east! <3
gusbear
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
333 Posts
May 03 2009 10:04 GMT
#64
On May 03 2009 17:37 SearingShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2009 17:35 SnowFantasy wrote:
Alright, not just me then. I'll try finding them on youtube lol.

I found them. (: I wont post link because it is denying SCForAll website views.

SCForAll should quit with the whole 'you must visit my site' bullshit. I mean no ones throwing a hissy fit over SCForAll basically using TL.net to 'advertise' their content for free... show us the same courtesy please! Its not like people don't want to visit your site, its that they can't. Page visits aside, SCForAll gets enough exposure in the videos anyway.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
May 03 2009 10:07 GMT
#65
On May 03 2009 19:04 gusbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2009 17:37 SearingShadow wrote:
On May 03 2009 17:35 SnowFantasy wrote:
Alright, not just me then. I'll try finding them on youtube lol.

I found them. (: I wont post link because it is denying SCForAll website views.

SCForAll should quit with the whole 'you must visit my site' bullshit. I mean no ones throwing a hissy fit over SCForAll basically using TL.net to 'advertise' their content for free... show us the same courtesy please! Its not like people don't want to visit your site, its that they can't. Page visits aside, SCForAll gets enough exposure in the videos anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/user/SCForAll
they wouldn't put the videos on youtube if they didn't want people to see them
Entusman #12
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
May 03 2009 10:18 GMT
#66
On May 03 2009 19:04 gusbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2009 17:37 SearingShadow wrote:
On May 03 2009 17:35 SnowFantasy wrote:
Alright, not just me then. I'll try finding them on youtube lol.

I found them. (: I wont post link because it is denying SCForAll website views.

SCForAll should quit with the whole 'you must visit my site' bullshit. I mean no ones throwing a hissy fit over SCForAll basically using TL.net to 'advertise' their content for free... show us the same courtesy please! Its not like people don't want to visit your site, its that they can't. Page visits aside, SCForAll gets enough exposure in the videos anyway.


this was very stupid ~~
And all is illuminated.
cHicKeLoR
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany559 Posts
May 03 2009 10:25 GMT
#67
finally stuff about this event...
Tossgirl fighting!
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
May 03 2009 10:39 GMT
#68
Lol at "those numbers probably bad mannered you". :D Quite interesting to see the keyboard and mouse setups. Super's mouse pad is gigantic! :O
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
May 03 2009 10:44 GMT
#69
wow, super and idra are really fast
And all is illuminated.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9021 Posts
May 03 2009 10:51 GMT
#70
lesson learned!
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2922 Posts
May 03 2009 11:56 GMT
#71
wow... white-ra got his hands on blackman's insane comp AI
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
mIsUZu
Profile Joined August 2008
New Zealand528 Posts
May 03 2009 11:58 GMT
#72
i hope either tossgirl or whitera wins!~!!
Why So Serious?!
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
May 03 2009 12:33 GMT
#73
On May 03 2009 20:56 Smorrie wrote:
wow... white-ra got his hands on blackman's insane comp AI


link? :D
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Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2922 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-03 12:55:23
May 03 2009 12:53 GMT
#74
On May 03 2009 21:33 MasterReY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2009 20:56 Smorrie wrote:
wow... white-ra got his hands on blackman's insane comp AI


link? :D


I don't think those maps were released to the big public.. There's a WCG2002 vod of blackman vs boxer in which the commentator (Korn[pG]) mentions the unorthodox practice ways of blackman.

Check 1:10-2:00

It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
May 03 2009 12:55 GMT
#75
korn[pG] <3
they should send him to korea, that was great commentary ^_^;
its me
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
May 03 2009 13:00 GMT
#76
Haha, people still believe this crap. ^_^ Blackman once said himself in an interview that he never programmed any map or computer for practice. If I am not mistaken, tomsOn spread the rumour first...
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
Diomedes
Profile Joined March 2009
464 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-03 13:03:44
May 03 2009 13:03 GMT
#77
That joke got old in 2003. Don't try to revive it.
koOl
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada254 Posts
May 03 2009 13:04 GMT
#78
thanks for the videos!!
hihi
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2922 Posts
May 03 2009 13:11 GMT
#79
On May 03 2009 22:03 Diomedes wrote:
That joke got old in 2003. Don't try to revive it.


lol, it's still good hah
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
May 03 2009 14:01 GMT
#80
i just thought it was something like BWAI by Entropy
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TL+ Member
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-03 15:50:23
May 03 2009 15:49 GMT
#81
On May 03 2009 19:04 gusbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2009 17:37 SearingShadow wrote:
On May 03 2009 17:35 SnowFantasy wrote:
Alright, not just me then. I'll try finding them on youtube lol.

I found them. (: I wont post link because it is denying SCForAll website views.

SCForAll should quit with the whole 'you must visit my site' bullshit. I mean no ones throwing a hissy fit over SCForAll basically using TL.net to 'advertise' their content for free... show us the same courtesy please! Its not like people don't want to visit your site, its that they can't. Page visits aside, SCForAll gets enough exposure in the videos anyway.


Yeah because SCForAll and TL.net are really comparable. Oh wait ... /facepalm -_-

Tx for the vids Artosis, always nice to have BTS coverage. Looking forward to day 2 broadcasts!
觀過斯知仁矣.
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
May 03 2009 15:59 GMT
#82
I dunno why, but when i watch Idra and Artosis, I cant stop thinkin of the "Just 2 guys" video
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
May 03 2009 16:00 GMT
#83
Let's see some action! Some GOOD action!

I hope to see White-Ra or IdrA on top too.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1837 Posts
May 03 2009 16:56 GMT
#84
Hahaha I love that second video

"Oh he's practicing against the computer!"

I have a question though: Is the account Gameitoss shared between White-ra and a bunch of other people? Cause it shows Gameitoss messaging Idra on iCCup, but then it shows White-ra playing against the computer.. who does he share it with?
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
May 03 2009 18:53 GMT
#85
Nobody, probably. Idra ignored the request so he made a quick game vs a comp.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Xenixx
Profile Joined June 2008
United States499 Posts
May 03 2009 18:55 GMT
#86
i think cj entus has a lot to do with it, if i were coaching idra id say get your attitude under control or you're out
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-03 22:21:26
May 03 2009 22:20 GMT
#87
I get that some people don't agree with my toss hks... but wtf was whitera doing? Was he clicking to build after queing up gateways... or is he from some country where the keyboard was different? So interesting!


By the way, great videos artosis.


Edit: Oh yeah gusbear, if you want artosis to keep doing stuff like this, he needs to get tons of hits. So let's give him his damn hits!
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
May 04 2009 03:26 GMT
#88
UPDATE:
Fifth Video: IdrA interview after victory over Super
IdrA over Super

Fourth video: White-Ra interview after victory over IdrA
White-Ra over IdrA

also, live stream starting soon LIVE ESWC STREAM
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
shafiru
Profile Joined January 2009
111 Posts
May 04 2009 03:28 GMT
#89
Artosis, you are amazing.
bengaliToss ftw...
radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
May 04 2009 03:35 GMT
#90
really great interviews man, especially the idra one

lol at

+ Show Spoiler +
super is mini-me
impatience is a virtue
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
May 04 2009 03:43 GMT
#91
can we expect artosis casted vods soon? dont want to spoil the games if your releasing commentated ones
wraiths go pew pew
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 04:15:39
May 04 2009 04:04 GMT
#92
This stream crazy laggy for anyone else?
Nak Allstar.
ChoRds
Profile Joined June 2008
United States127 Posts
May 04 2009 04:19 GMT
#93
On May 04 2009 13:04 MiniRoman wrote:
This stream crazy laggy for anyone else?


yes, it is the spam in the chat lagging it.
collosusis
Dyllyn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Singapore670 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 04:52:52
May 04 2009 04:50 GMT
#94
That is a sweet hall to play starcraft in

+ Show Spoiler +
edit: LOL "he can only beat the computer and strelok"
scv rush ftw
Drazzzt
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany999 Posts
May 04 2009 06:05 GMT
#95
I can't help it but Idra always sounds arrogant... :/
Be Nice, Be Fair, Be Mannered.
gusbear
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
333 Posts
May 04 2009 06:30 GMT
#96
On May 04 2009 07:20 -_- wrote:
Edit: Oh yeah gusbear, if you want artosis to keep doing stuff like this, he needs to get tons of hits. So let's give him his damn hits!

My point was that the SCForAll website would not load for some people. He's hosted the videos on youtube now so I am actually fighting to give him more hits on his videos which he would otherwise not have gotten if there was no direct link to the youtube account.
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
May 04 2009 06:38 GMT
#97
Eighth video: Walk with White-Ra to Grand Final Stage - Amazing Interview
White-Ra AMAZING interview + Grand Final Stage

Seventh video: Walk with IdrA to Grand Final Stage
IdrA to Grand Final Stage

Sixth video: IdrA interview after victory over TossGirl
IdrA over TossGirl

Finals start in like 20 minutes.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
dpugliesi
Profile Joined August 2004
Brazil104 Posts
May 04 2009 06:51 GMT
#98
Good stuff.

White-Ra is the shit.

Make mony!
=/
jigga
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1141 Posts
May 04 2009 06:52 GMT
#99
God damn White-Ra is a baller.

Awesome interviews, keep them coming!
CongoJack
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada417 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 06:56:04
May 04 2009 06:55 GMT
#100
Nice interviews thanks alot Artosis. That White-Ra interview really was the best interview ever lol.
fonger
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United Kingdom1218 Posts
May 04 2009 06:55 GMT
#101
Fantastic coverage Artosis, thanks a lot. If it'll help any, I could restream your stream via my own Mogulus so we could split the viewers - may help with stream lag, although mine would have somewhat worse quality since it'd be double-encoded. Also recommend you set Procaster to run on a different CPU to SC if you're on a multi-core computer (Task Manager -> right-click program -> Set CPU Affinity... -> have one on CPU 0 and the other on CPU 1) as that may help with the in-game lag you seem to have been experiencing.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
May 04 2009 06:59 GMT
#102
wow awesome interview.
go white-ra!
dpugliesi
Profile Joined August 2004
Brazil104 Posts
May 04 2009 07:01 GMT
#103
On a sidenote I was rooting for IdrA but after watching the interviews, IdrA acts retard and Ra is so much cooler, fuck you Idra, Ra all the way.
=/
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
May 04 2009 07:08 GMT
#104
On May 04 2009 16:01 dpugliesi wrote:
On a sidenote I was rooting for IdrA but after watching the interviews, IdrA acts retard and Ra is so much cooler, fuck you Idra, Ra all the way.


so explaining why he lost/won quite detailed is a sign of being retarded...
thanks for the insight
And all is illuminated.
dpugliesi
Profile Joined August 2004
Brazil104 Posts
May 04 2009 07:10 GMT
#105
I root for the ones i feel some form of empathy and in this case Ra is a much more likable guy.

Sorry if i used the wrong words.
=/
StalinRusH
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States734 Posts
May 04 2009 07:11 GMT
#106
On May 04 2009 16:10 dpugliesi wrote:
I root for the ones i feel some form of empathy and in this case Ra is a much more likable guy.

Sorry if i used the wrong words.


nobody is as likable as white-ra so therefor everyone else is instant lose
A Combination Of Tuberculosis And A Tomahawk To The Head:: Nothing Bonds Drunken Idiots Like Sexual Innuendos ::
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
May 04 2009 07:19 GMT
#107
ROFL "Please lose a game."
GANDHISAUCE
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
May 04 2009 07:57 GMT
#108
rooting for white-ra too! hes going to propose!
dpugliesi
Profile Joined August 2004
Brazil104 Posts
May 04 2009 08:01 GMT
#109
On May 04 2009 16:57 Metal[x] wrote:
rooting for white-ra too! hes going to propose!


You are a little late :D

Not gonna spoil for you tho.
=/
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 08:10:41
May 04 2009 08:08 GMT
#110
wow super's mouse pad is hugeeeeee

hehe my friend tilts his keyboard the same way as idra.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
May 04 2009 08:26 GMT
#111
These interviews were awesome, thank alot. White-ra is such a pimp! And wow, idra was so much more mannered compared to his general image.

Keep it up artosis!

+ Show Spoiler +
Oh wow idra won, hopefully the 3k will be enough for white-ra!
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
May 04 2009 08:41 GMT
#112
thanks for the coverage artosis, your casts were great too bad it had to be discontinued.
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 08:44:48
May 04 2009 08:44 GMT
#113
I tilt my keyboard in the opposite direction idra does. So the left side of my keyboard is tilted up.
#1 Kwanro Fan
kulik-
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Czech Republic305 Posts
May 04 2009 08:58 GMT
#114
its funny that white-ra doesnt speak english but still he speak much more that idra
Terrible OP. Improve your posting or next one is a perma-ban.
kulik-
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Czech Republic305 Posts
May 04 2009 09:00 GMT
#115
its also look for me that idra is trying to be higher with his head like he has it more up dont know how to say it anyway gj idra
Terrible OP. Improve your posting or next one is a perma-ban.
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
May 04 2009 09:01 GMT
#116
lol great stuff.
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
May 04 2009 09:03 GMT
#117
Eleventh video: View of IdrA + White-Ra in press room interview
Press Room Interview

Tenth video: IdrA on stage after winning
IdrA on stage after win

Ninth video: IdrA interviewed after defeating TossGirl
IdrA over TossGirl
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
May 04 2009 09:05 GMT
#118
how can you not love white-ra
https://twitter.com/quanticfograw
kulik-
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Czech Republic305 Posts
May 04 2009 09:09 GMT
#119
gj arto
Terrible OP. Improve your posting or next one is a perma-ban.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
May 04 2009 09:11 GMT
#120
Thanks Artosis, btw 6th and 9th are the same ;o
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
May 04 2009 09:16 GMT
#121
god damn someone tell idra he just won 5k. It is ok to crack a smile
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
Lenwe
Profile Joined March 2008
Netherlands757 Posts
May 04 2009 09:26 GMT
#122
Thanks Artosis, an interview with Idra and White-Ra after the finals would be nice.

And congrats Idra on the 5k, if only you could behave on the internet as you did on those video's.
Skew
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1019 Posts
May 04 2009 09:27 GMT
#123
On May 04 2009 18:16 InToTheWannaB wrote:
god damn someone tell idra he just won 5k. It is ok to crack a smile


once you've seen a pistol star and fathomed a black hole, these sorts of things just don't do the trick
zeox
Profile Joined November 2007
Norway314 Posts
May 04 2009 09:36 GMT
#124
Congrats to Idra!
Great coverage by Artosis as well
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joewest
Profile Joined December 2007
United States167 Posts
May 04 2009 09:48 GMT
#125
On May 04 2009 18:16 InToTheWannaB wrote:
god damn someone tell idra he just won 5k. It is ok to crack a smile


he's practicing the CJ face
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
May 04 2009 09:50 GMT
#126
On May 04 2009 18:48 joewest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2009 18:16 InToTheWannaB wrote:
god damn someone tell idra he just won 5k. It is ok to crack a smile


he's practicing the CJ face

excellent
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
May 04 2009 09:59 GMT
#127
Awesome videos. Thank you Artosis.

CJ Idra -_- fighting.
5sz6sz7sz1a2a3a4a kwanrollllllled
Chanted
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway1001 Posts
May 04 2009 11:02 GMT
#128
awesome videos, and the streamtime is so good !
JC4HNX
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany18 Posts
May 04 2009 11:31 GMT
#129
Great coverage...thank you Artosis. Keep up the good work.
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
May 04 2009 11:48 GMT
#130
Great videos! Thanks Artosis for doing all this and Grats to Idra !

Are there VoDs of the games, too?
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
May 04 2009 12:14 GMT
#131
Artosis, you linked the video "idra interview after defeating tossgirl" twice.
Btw, nice coverage!

Who held the camera?
And all is illuminated.
The Raurosaur
Profile Joined April 2009
198 Posts
May 04 2009 12:29 GMT
#132
Is scforall.com down for anyone else?
:(){:|:&};:
kulik-
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Czech Republic305 Posts
May 04 2009 12:34 GMT
#133
On May 04 2009 18:50 a-game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2009 18:48 joewest wrote:
On May 04 2009 18:16 InToTheWannaB wrote:
god damn someone tell idra he just won 5k. It is ok to crack a smile


he's practicing the CJ face

excellent

+1
Terrible OP. Improve your posting or next one is a perma-ban.
Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
May 04 2009 13:21 GMT
#134
Thank you so much artosis. This will be great to kill some time and watch!
ya had ya shot kid!
Pepsicolaone
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States967 Posts
May 04 2009 14:04 GMT
#135
artosis you are the best!!!! i love you man.
I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equal.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
May 04 2009 14:06 GMT
#136
omg the interviews are great. I LOVE YOU ARTOSIS.
U Gotta Skate.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
May 04 2009 14:33 GMT
#137
So maybe it's just me being retarded but where is the VODs of the actual games?
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
May 04 2009 15:12 GMT
#138
I cant find them, too. At least you are not the only one being retarded here
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
May 04 2009 15:20 GMT
#139
"he doesn't know what to do, he just stands there"

hahahahah you crack me up artosis, it's exactly what i was thinking and you said it
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
May 04 2009 17:10 GMT
#140
Thanks so much Artosis this info is GREAT to have and gj on the youtube switch, much easier to access videos now.

I'm looking for VODs of the games as well, I didn't want to get it spoiled but since I couldn't find the VODs I didn't really have a choice

Gratz to Idra as well, glad that he won a tournament, that should be a big boost to his confidence and allow him to do better in Korea.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
May 04 2009 17:30 GMT
#141
im so happy for idra!!
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
May 04 2009 17:32 GMT
#142
On May 05 2009 02:10 Whiplash wrote:
Thanks so much Artosis this info is GREAT to have and gj on the youtube switch, much easier to access videos now.

I'm looking for VODs of the games as well, I didn't want to get it spoiled but since I couldn't find the VODs I didn't really have a choice

Gratz to Idra as well, glad that he won a tournament, that should be a big boost to his confidence and allow him to do better in Korea.

some of the vods are on wfbrood.com
http://www.wfbrood.com/xingji/xingjibisai/xingji_37998.html
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
May 04 2009 21:18 GMT
#143
I want to see the final games>
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
May 04 2009 21:19 GMT
#144
On May 05 2009 06:18 tonight wrote:
I want to see the final games>


Look at the post above your post lol
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
May 04 2009 21:58 GMT
#145
On May 05 2009 06:19 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2009 06:18 tonight wrote:
I want to see the final games>


Look at the post above your post lol


have you tried watching the vods there? literally takes days to load.
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 22:39:59
May 04 2009 22:02 GMT
#146
youku always loads very fast for me, i think maybe USA has problems with that site?

pads you're from uk it should be fine, they load really fast for me.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
May 05 2009 01:26 GMT
#147
On May 05 2009 06:19 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2009 06:18 tonight wrote:
I want to see the final games>


Look at the post above your post lol

Was ungodly trying to watch/load
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Mr.E
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States434 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-05 01:44:51
May 05 2009 01:44 GMT
#148
I think Idra might argue he's the MOST humble foreign player. If anyone's more humble its because of skillless noob shit.

... jk good for him.
Looking for top-tier practice partners, especially Z; PM me
shafiru
Profile Joined January 2009
111 Posts
May 05 2009 02:03 GMT
#149
So happy for IdrA, gj boi
bengaliToss ftw...
masami.sc
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States445 Posts
May 05 2009 02:04 GMT
#150
gj idra.

cj face -_-
mmmmm...
DrTJEckleburg
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1080 Posts
May 05 2009 03:04 GMT
#151
just let all 3 games load for 10-15 minutes, go afk, come back, and watch!
Im pretty good at whistling with my hands, especially when Im holding a whistle.
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
May 05 2009 03:30 GMT
#152
i hope White-Ra still proposes
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
May 05 2009 03:43 GMT
#153
On May 05 2009 12:30 Sonu wrote:
i hope White-Ra still proposes

Yeah, it'd be pretty sad if he didn't lol.

Good job Idra! Next stop, MSL finals amirite?
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
WhenHellfreezes
Profile Joined November 2008
United States81 Posts
May 05 2009 03:59 GMT
#154
I feel like idra is like Mr. Darcy from pride and predjudice. I started out not liking him and think he was bm and then I started to understand his postition and now hes a cool guy.
Doom!
ZinZan
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada7 Posts
May 05 2009 05:07 GMT
#155
I don't think Idra can afford to be BM in Korea really.

Thanks for the vid's! Always love behind the scenes.
Your a human right? Then why are you playing an alien race?
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
May 07 2009 03:51 GMT
#156
UPDATE sorry but there will be no more video interview stuff going up from ESWC. sadly super went home early and i became very very busy and wasn't able to get all the stuff i was planning on.

Last video: IdrA/White-Ra/TossGirl on stage
Award Ceremony
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-07 04:06:45
May 07 2009 04:06 GMT
#157
ooooo tossgirl in a dress and high heels
white-ra's so damn cool.
Longitude57
Profile Joined May 2009
United States26 Posts
May 07 2009 04:07 GMT
#158
Great interviews artosis
Speak as clearly as you can
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
May 07 2009 05:50 GMT
#159
oh cool idra got a big trophy
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
TheRecliner
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden103 Posts
May 07 2009 22:23 GMT
#160
Very nice interviews, Artosis, and thank you for using YouTube!
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 07 2009 22:29 GMT
#161
whitera is really cool
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
May 07 2009 22:30 GMT
#162
Finally, IdrA won something. Congratz man. Keep up the results and I'm glad to see you get away from those cookie cutter builds for once.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-07 22:33:27
May 07 2009 22:32 GMT
#163
--- Nuked ---
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
May 20 2009 02:04 GMT
#164
last update, really. the vods from the event can be seen here:
VOD set 1
VOD set 2
VOD set 3

and a quick question: did the replays from this event get released? i've been really super busy and didn't keep track if they got out yet. let me know so i can go find them if they didn't.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
May 20 2009 02:15 GMT
#165
Where are Idra vs White-Ra games?
The Prince of DroneS
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
May 20 2009 05:15 GMT
#166
On May 05 2009 12:59 WhenHellfreezes wrote:
I feel like idra is like Mr. Darcy from pride and predjudice. I started out not liking him and think he was bm and then I started to understand his postition and now hes a cool guy.

Sadly, i'm probably one of very few who understood you in this post.
But I totally agree.
I'm falling for idra hard.
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