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Revolutionist Bisu w/ 37 wins - tied at 2nd place

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Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-19 10:52:38
April 19 2009 09:46 GMT
#1
Revolutionist Bisu with 37 wins rises to tie at 2nd place


▶ Shinhan Proleague 08-09 All Time Wins Ranking (Currently - 4th Round 2nd Week 2 Matches)

1st - (T)Flash KTF MagicNs (38 Wins 11 Losses)

2nd - (Z)Jaedong Hwaseung Oz (37 Wins 15 Losses)
2nd - (P)Bisu SK Telecom T1 (37 Wins 9 Losses)

4th - (T)Leta Hite SPARKYZ (31 Wins 13 Losses)

5th - (P)free Woongjin Stars (28 Wins 15 Losses)

6th - (T)HiyA Hwaseung Oz (27 Wins 15 Losses)

7th - (Z)Calm STX SouL (25 Wins 15 Losses)

8th - (P)JangBi Samsung KHAN (24 Wins 11 Losses)
8th - (P)BeSt SK Telecom T1 (24 Wins 14 Losses)
8th - (Z)YellOw[ArnC] Hite SPARKYZ (24 Wins 15 Losses)
8th - (Z)hyvaa eSTRO (24 Wins 22 Losses)

12th - (T)Light MBC Game Hero (23 Wins 12 Losses)
12th - (T)Mind WeMade FOX (23 Wins 17 Losses)
12th - (P)Kal STX SouL (23 Wins 18 Losses)
12th - (Z)ZerO Woongjin Stars (23 Wins 20 Losses)
12th - (T)Really eSTRO (23 Wins 26 Losses)

17th - (Z)Luxury KTF MagicNs (20 Wins 20 Losses)

18th - (T)Iris CJ Entus (19 Wins 10 Losses)
18th - (P)Stork Samsung KHAN (19 Wins 17 Losses)
18th - (T)Sea MBC Game Hero (19 Wins 18 Losses)

20 total players - 8 [image loading]Terran, 6 [image loading]Zerg, 6 [image loading]Protoss

Original Korean Article:
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▶ 신한은행 프로리그 08-09 다승 순위(4라운드 2주차 2경기 현재)
1위 LuCifer OR Flash KTF Magicⓝs 38승 11패

2위 Jaedong 화승 오즈 37승 15패
2위 Bisu SK텔레콤 T1 37승 9패

4위 Leta 온게임넷 스파키즈 31승 13패

5위 free 웅진 Stars 28승 15패

6위 HiyA 화승 오즈 27승 15패

7위 Hery OR Calm STX SouL 25승 15패

8위 JangBi 삼성전자 KHAN 24승 11패
8위 BeSt SK텔레콤 T1 24승 14패
8위 YellOw[ArnC] 온게임넷 스파키즈 24승 15패
8위 hyvaa 이스트로 24승 22패

12위 Light MBC게임 히어로 23승 12패
12위 Mind 위메이드 폭스 23승 17패
12위 Kal STX SouL 23승 18패
12위 ZerO 웅진 Stars 23승 20패
12위 Really 이스트로 23승 26패

17위 Luxury KTF Magicⓝs 20승 20패

18위 Iris CJ Entus 19승 10패
18위 Stork 삼성전자 KHAN 19승 17패
18위 Sea MBC게임 히어로 19승 18패


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Taken from fomos.kr
Thought this list was pretty interesting - didn't realize some of these players were as high up as they were...

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EDIT: I thought it would be interesting to see rankings based on Win RATES because as some people have pointed out, the above all time wins ranking does not take into account the number of losses a player has. Here is the ranking of the same players based on win rates - if there is an error spotted please let me know!

Calculated Win Rates & Ranking of Above Players


1st - (P)Bisu 80.43%
2nd - (T)Flash 77.55%
3rd - (Z)Jaedong 71.15%
4th - (T)Leta 70.45%
5th - (P)JangBi 68.57%
6th - (T)Light 65.71%
7th - (T)Iris 65.52%
8th - (P)free 65.12%
9th - (T)HiyA 64.29%
10th - (P)BeSt 63.16%
11th - (Z)Calm 62.50%
12th - (Z)YellOw[ArnC] 61.54%
13th - (T)Mind 57.50%
14th - (P)Kal 56.10%
15th - (Z)ZerO 53.49%
16th - (P)Stork 52.78%
17th - (Z)hyvaa 52.17%
18th - (T)Sea 51.35%
19th - (Z)Luxury 50.00%
20th - (T)Really 46.94%
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
April 19 2009 09:49 GMT
#2
Jesus, Flash so beastly. Also had no idea Leta was doing that well, pretty glad he's my FPL captain o:
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
April 19 2009 09:59 GMT
#3
Its weird to see it being ranked on purely wins, for example light's stat is far more impressive than hyvaas.
bisu fanboy
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
April 19 2009 10:02 GMT
#4
i dont understand the ranking. 37-9 is better than 38-11, and much better than 37-15.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3321 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-19 10:11:00
April 19 2009 10:09 GMT
#5
Actually Bisu has the best Winning % of all those players on that list. At least he should be above Jaedong. 37-9 > 37-17 EASY!
김택용 Fighting!
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9015 Posts
April 19 2009 10:12 GMT
#6
Bisu's losses has 1 digit.
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-19 10:54:31
April 19 2009 10:13 GMT
#7
On April 19 2009 18:59 fearus wrote:
Its weird to see it being ranked on purely wins, for example light's stat is far more impressive than hyvaas.


I agree that some players have better win RATES than others, (i.e.: as you pointed out, Light vs. hyvaa) but if they made a list based on win rates alone a lot of new players who have only played a handful of games would be very high on the list (assuming they won all those games). I guess they could have a minimum amount of games needed but it'd be hard to decide where to draw the line so... this list based on all time wins was probably the easiest route to take.

I can do a quick win rate ranking of the players listed only here later today... it'd be interesting to see where players get shuffled around. Done
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
raiame
Profile Joined December 2007
United States421 Posts
April 19 2009 10:22 GMT
#8
Really's the only player on there with a win rate <50%
Deleted User 37864
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
780 Posts
April 19 2009 10:34 GMT
#9
Glad to see the 6 dragons on there!
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
April 19 2009 10:41 GMT
#10
I'm confused... this is most wins in just this proleague season?
aka Moletrap
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
April 19 2009 10:58 GMT
#11
CJ has so much depth... only Iris is up there yet they're still a winning team
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-19 11:40:52
April 19 2009 11:37 GMT
#12
On April 19 2009 19:41 f10esqftw wrote:
I'm confused... this is most wins in just this proleague season?


The whole proleague of 08-09. R1-R4(currently) which includes Winners League. So, short answer is yes.

EDIT: Wow, Iris only CJ representative.
I know where my towel is.
Hammy
Profile Joined January 2009
France828 Posts
April 19 2009 11:44 GMT
#13
Well at least when there's a tie they should give the edge to the one with the fewest losses. Like Jaedong 3rd and Bisu 2nd in this case. Anyways this rating is just to give a bit of an idea, it isn't a reliable statistic.
Thanks for the info, I didn't expect bisu to be so high up actually.
Dyllyn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Singapore670 Posts
April 19 2009 13:11 GMT
#14
oh wow leta did pretty well when he did
scv rush ftw
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-19 15:45:46
April 19 2009 15:45 GMT
#15
Every cs player knows it's not about kills it's about KDR

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aka bisu #1
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
April 19 2009 15:52 GMT
#16
On April 19 2009 20:37 wurm wrote:
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On April 19 2009 19:41 f10esqftw wrote:
I'm confused... this is most wins in just this proleague season?


The whole proleague of 08-09. R1-R4(currently) which includes Winners League. So, short answer is yes.

EDIT: Wow, Iris only CJ representative.


And that is very PIMP of him!

What a fucking monster, Go iris Go
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iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
April 19 2009 16:10 GMT
#17
On April 19 2009 20:44 Hammy wrote:
Well at least when there's a tie they should give the edge to the one with the fewest losses. Like Jaedong 3rd and Bisu 2nd in this case. Anyways this rating is just to give a bit of an idea, it isn't a reliable statistic.
Thanks for the info, I didn't expect bisu to be so high up actually.


yep 1 more win and Bisu should be first, lame that they don't take losses into consideration.
Xellos <3
jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
April 19 2009 16:15 GMT
#18
Guys, its just "Who has won the most games"
otherwise any guy that was 1-0 would have a better percentage.

Top three are very very impressive.
sex appeal
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
April 19 2009 16:21 GMT
#19
I never realized Calm was playing that well.
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
April 19 2009 16:35 GMT
#20
Flash should get a better team. So should Jaedong.
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