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+ Show Spoiler +Thezerg, "This is just the beginning"Coach MuMyung really went through a lot What are your feelings on the team rising to 3rd place after 4 consecutive wins?- To win 3:0 is very difficult even if you really want it. I believe it is the end result of the team working extremely hard during the off season. I believe we’ve worked hard enough even to surpass Hwaseung’s Spartan-like training. Last week I was arranged to play in the 4th set but after the team won 3:0 I didn’t get a chance to play. Because I was arranged to play in the 1st set today, I practiced even harder than I did last week. You lost a great number of guardians due to cloaked wraiths.- I usually upgrade overlord speed early. If I had upgraded overlord speed to my usual timing, the game would have ended right then and there. Terran in that situation should have defended with siege tanks and bunkers and while science vessels are made in 2 starports, stepped out of defense. However after spotting his science facility I predicted he would make the best decisions and cancelled my speed upgrade. If I had lost all my guardians it would’ve been difficult but although it was a small number, I saved them, and while terran was focusing on wraiths the danger on my part disappeared and I even got an expo and was able to secure the win. After the game, you happily high-fived Coach MuMyung.- Coach MuMyung really goes through a lot. He continually watches my games and offers fitting strategies for me. Coach MuMyung always stays up into the a.m. with me and suffers a lot. He said that players must not suffer alone and that coaches must share the difficulty, and so he stays up with us really late into the night and drives us early in the morning. Because the zerg line wasn’t doing so well, you must have suffered a lot.- It was a really difficult time and I felt a lot of pressure. It was so hard to mentally control myself to get over the pressure of being a ‘T1 zerg’. So I tried very hard to change my image to a more positive one. Although we have suffered up until now, because we practiced incredibly hard I believe that not just me, but whoever goes out will be ready with the skills to win. In the next match, you are playing Jangbi.- I think it will be a very entertaining match. In God’s Garden, because the 1 gate double nexus is very effective, in the first half of the match protoss are at the advantage. So most zergs try to use hydras to inflict some damage. I’ve been reflecting over that fact, and because I’m confident in my management against protoss, I believe I will be able to show an entertaining match that I will win. After your transfer, you haven’t really shown impressive results.- With today’s victory, after my transfer, with stats of 4-4 I’ve leveled out at a 50% win rate. I believe this is just the beginning. Up until now, I overdid things and tried too hard to adjust to the team’s atmosphere. However, now instead of focusing things outside of the game, I plan on focusing on only the game to show results. Anything particular you want to say.- Our team has founded a Special Force team and today is their first match. I hope that we can both have victories and have a dinner together afterwards. Original Korean Interview: + Show Spoiler + - 4연승을 기록하며 3위로 올라선 소감은 ▲ 3:0으로 이기는 것은 바람은 있어도 쉽지 않은 일이다. 스토브 기간에 팀원들의 고생 끝에 얻은 값진 결과라고 생각한다. 화승의 스파트타식 훈련을 넘어설 정도로 열심히 노력한 대가인 것 같다. 지난주 4세트에 배치됐는데 3:0으로 이기는 바람에 출전하지 못했다. 오늘은 1세트에 배치돼서 지난주보다 더욱 열심히 연습했다.
- 클로킹 레이스에 가디언을 다수 잃기도 했는데 ▲ 원래 오버로드 속도 업그레이드를 일찍 한다. 만약 제 타이밍에 속도 업그레이드가 완료됐다면 그 상황에서 끝나는 경기였다. 테란은 그 상황에서 시즈탱크와 벙커로 방어를 하고 사이언스 베슬이 2스타포트에서 추가되면서 방어에 나서야 한다. 그런데 오늘 경기에서 상대의 사일런트 퍼실리티를 보고 최고의 판단을 할 것으로 예측하고 속도 업그레이드를 취소했다. 가디언을 다 잃었다면 힘들었을 텐데 소수였지만 가디언을 지켰고, 테란이 레이스에 집중하면서 나에게는 위기가 없었고 입구까지 잡고 있어서 승리할 수 있었다.
- 경기 후 성학승 코치와 기쁘게 하이파이브 하던데 ▲ 성 코치님께서 정말 고생을 많이 하신다. 성 코치님께서 게임도 계속 봐주시고 나에게 맞는 전략도 자주 추천해 주신다. 성 코치님께서 매일 새벽 늦게까지 남아 계시면서 함께 고생을 하신다. 선수들만 고생하면 안되고 코치도 함께 어려움을 나눠야 한다고 말씀하시면서 항상 우리와 같이 늦게 퇴근하고 일찍 우리를 데려다 주신다.
- 그 동안 저그 라인 부진으로 마음 고생이 심했을 텐데 ▲ 많이 힘들었고 부담이 많이 됐다. ‘T1 저그’라는 부담감을 이긴다는 마인드 컨트롤이 쉽지 않았다. 그래서 긍정적인 이미지로 바꾸기 위해 많은 노력했다. 그 동안 시련을 겪었지만 굉장히 노력했기 때문에 이제는 나뿐 아니라 누가 나가도 이길 수 있는 실력을 갖췄다고 생각한다.
- 다음 경기에서는 삼성전자 허영무와 대결하는데 ▲ 굉장히 재미있는 경기가 될 것 같다. 신의정원이라는 맵이 1게이트 더블 넥서스가 가능해서 초중반에는 프로토스에게 유리하다. 그래서 저그들이 대부분 히드라로 피해를 주려는 플레이를 하더라. 나도 그 점을 고려하고 있고, 프로토스전 운영이 자신 있기 때문에 재미있는 경기, 승리하는 경기 보여드릴 수 있을 것 같다.
- 이적 후 이렇다 할 성과를 거둔 것이 없는데 ▲ 오늘 이겨서 이적 이후 4승 4패로 5할 승률을 겨우 맞췄다. 이제부터 시작이라고 생각한다. 그 동안 너무 오버하면서 팀 분위기에 맞추려고 했다. 하지만 이제는 게임 외적인 부분은 잠시 접어두고 게임에만 집중해서 성과를 거둘 생각이다.
- 특별히 하고 싶은 말이 있다면 ▲ 우리 팀에 스페셜포스 게임단이 창단했고 오늘 첫 경기에 출전한다. 두 팀 모두 승리를 거둬서 오늘 함께 회식했으면 좋겠다.
-- Bisu, "I'm feeling this feeling for the first time"I'm in a stage where I'm playing well and my skills are improving Your feelings on the team rising to 3rd place after 4 consecutive wins?- It’s a feeling I’m feeling for the first time. We also had all-win last time but it didn’t feel like this. However this time with an all-win against a very strong team, I felt the value and felt very happy. Also, because I also helped out in the all-win, I’m happy. In the early game because of harass you started with a heavy disadvantage.- My position wasn’t so great. I was hoping I would get any location other than the one I got today so from the beginning I didn’t feel good. I also told my teammates that that location sucked. Up until the manner pylon, it was okay, but after I lost 2 probes because of the zealot-probes, I started with a disadvantage. With your reavers you bought some time and successfully set up a blockade.- Before I set up the blockade, when I caught his reaver I thought to myself “because I’m at an advantage I must not lose”. I thought that I would set up the blockade and that even if I lost there, I would be able defend at my nat. However he ended up breaking through my nat as well. After that happened I thought I lost. But my opponent was slow with his own expo and though my expo was gone I still had a secure amount of resources, and because I had the expo in the back of my base I thought to myself I must hold on. Looking back, what do you think was the main reason you were able to come back and win?- I was ahead in upgrades and I thought to myself if I could just hold on somehow I would be able to win. I would have to say it was due to my archons and reaver control. In the center battle, I believe it was because of the strength of the archons and reaver control that I was able to do well. In that battle, the archons were very strong and while I had good reaver control, in contrast BackHo lost 2 reavers, and I was able to win. It was his first match since the starleague wildcard. - Before the match while chatting, I asked him how his waist was and he replied that it still wasn’t fully healed. I told him that I would definitely buy him dinner next time and to give me a call before the game started. In the 3rd set, once Fantasy beat Jaedong, with 37 wins you are tied at 2nd place for all time wins.- Firstly, I’m happy that I have a large number of wins. However as of now, I just want to contribute toward team victories. Leading all time wins still feels far away for me. Although I am tied for 2nd place right now, because I don’t know what will happen in the 5th round, I believe that if I just play carefully it will happen naturally. It's been said that in team rankings your win rate exceeds 70%.- It’s an exaggerated story. There’s no reason I would have a win rate that high. I still believe I lack a lot. There are days I do well and days I don’t do well and because I play ranking games everyday I’m not even sure what my win rate is right now. Nowadays, I’m just in a phase where games are playing out well and my skills are improving. Any particular you want to say?- I’m happy that our team is winning like this. In our next match against Samsung Khan we will use this momentum and definitely win. Original Korean Interview: + Show Spoiler + - 4연승을 기록하며 3위로 올라선 소감은 ▲ 처음 느껴보는 기분인 것 같다. 지난번에도 연승을 한 것 같은데 그때는 이런 감정을 느끼지 못했다. 그런데 이번 연승에는 강팀을 이겨서 연승이 값지고 기분이 좋다. 그리고 연승 가운데 나도 이겨서 기분이 좋다.
- 초반 견제를 당하고 불리하게 출발했는데 ▲ 위치가 별로 좋지 않았다. 오늘 자리만 걸리지 마라고 생각하고 경기에 임했는데 초반부터 왠지 기분이 안 좋았다. 팀원들에게도 그 자리가 걸리면 진다고 했다. 매너 파일런까지는 괜찮았는데 질럿-프로브 견제에 프로브를 2기나 잡히면서 불리하게 시작했다.
- 리버 견제로 시간을 벌고 봉쇄에 성공했는데 ▲ 봉쇄하기 전에 상대 리버 1기를 잡아서 ‘내가 유리해서 질 수 없다’는 생각을 했다. 여기서 봉쇄하고 이 병력을 내줘도 앞마당에서 막으면 된다는 생각이었다. 그런데 앞마당이 뚫리고 말았다. 그러면서 졌다고 생각했다. 그래도 상대는 앞마당이 느리고 나는 앞마당이 깨졌지만 자원을 확보했고, 뒷마당도 있어서 버텨야겠다고 생각했다.
- 이후에 다시 재역전에 성공한 요인이 있다면 ▲ 업그레이드에서 한 단계 앞서 있었고 버티면 어찌어찌 이길 수 있겠다고 생각했다. 아무래도 아콘의 힘과 리버 컨트롤 때문인 것 같다. 중앙 전투에서 아콘과 리버의 힘으로 싸움을 잘한 것 같다. 그 전투에서 아콘이 강력했고 리버 컨트롤이 잘된 반면 (손)찬웅이는 리버 2기를 잃으면서 이길 수 있었다.
- 스타리그 와일드카드전 이후 첫 대결이었는데 ▲ 경기 전 채팅으로 ‘허리는 어떠냐’고 물어봤는데 ‘아직 2% 부족하다’고 하더라. 내가 다음에 베풀 테니 어떻게든 연락을 하라는 말을 전하고 게임을 시작했다.
- 3세트에서 정명훈이 이제동을 잡아줘서 37승으로 공동 2위인데 ▲ 일단 다승왕을 한다는 것은 굉장히 기분 좋은 일이다. 하지만 아직은 그냥 팀 승리에 기여하고 싶은 마음뿐이다. 다승왕은 아직 멀게 느껴진다. 내가 지금은 공동 2위지만 5라운드에서도 어떻게 될지 모르기 때문에 차근차근 이기다 보면 어떻게든 될 것 이라고 생각한다.
- 팀 내 랭킹전에서 승률이 70%를 넘는다던데 ▲ 과장된 이야기다. 내가 그 정도의 승률을 기록할 리가 없다. 아직은 부족하다고 생각한다. 게임이 잘될 때도 있고 못될 때도 있는데 랭킹전을 매일 하다 보니 승률이 얼만지는 잘 모르겠다. 그냥 요즘에는 게임이 잘되고 실력을 늘려가는 단계다.
- 특별히 하고 싶은 말이 있다면 ▲ 이렇게 팀이 이기니까 기분이 좋다. 다음 삼성전자전에서도 이 기세를 이어서 꼭 승리하도록 하겠다.
-- Fantasy, "I am strengthened by the consecutive wins and I want to be in the center of it""In the 4th round I want to continue riding this momentum until the end" Your feelings on rising to 3rd place after 4 consecutive victories?- I didn’t know that we would have 4 consecutive wins until I saw the records. I didn’t realize our team was doing this well but after I realized we had those consecutive wins I felt strengthened. The beginning of the 4th round is starting well with 2 all-wins and I feel with this same spirit and momentum we can win all our games 3:0. I feel strength from the consecutive wins and I want to be in the center of that. This was your first match against Jaedong since the Batoo OSL.- I feel good that I was able to win in a match that received a lot of attention. Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great. So I was able to play confidently today and if I play him again next time I feel I will be able to win again. You lost a number of valkryies futilely.- Today I was unusually nervous. Just as it was before I debuted, I played with a complete absence of ego. I don’t usually get nervous but I think Jaedong has the ability to make me that way. You probably prepared with the mindset of shaking off your loss in the finals.- I actually faced the match without those thoughts. I just thought I would play comfortably. Whenever I play I think to myself “just play comfortably as you do in practice” and today was no different. In the future I will continue to win and become ‘Fantasy Trauma’ to Jaedong. Your performance recently has improved.- After the finals, I feel that my skills have improved a lot. Within the team as practice for foundation I also gained confidence. However, because I only have 2 wins in the 4th round so far, I won’t lose focus. There’ve been countless number of times where I started off well and under performed in the latter half but in this 4th round I want to continue riding the momentum until the end. If you were to pick a reason for your rise in performance.- Lately I want to learn a lot from Boxer hyung and Coach iloveoov. Today’s build is a strategy that Coach iloveoov helped out a lot with. I believe I will be able to show great games in the future as well. Boxer hyung especially compliments me a lot. Also my teammates also compliment me saying that I’m good so I believe my games are running even smoother. Last words you want to say.- There’s something I’ve wanted to say since the past month but I haven’t gotten around to saying. Boxer hyung’s girlfriend made me a mouse pad protector (?). Afterwards my games have been running very well. I want to tell her I’m thankful. Also, today our Special Force team is playing for the first time so I ask that you also give them a lot of attention and encouragement. Lastly, today as I rode the car here I got carsick but Best hyung for some reason went and personally bought me medicine. So I was extremely thankful, and though I was really sick at first, because of him I felt a lot better. I’m very thankful to Best hyung. Original Korean Interview: + Show Spoiler + - 4연승을 기록하며 3위로 올라선 소감은 ▲ 오늘 이기면 4연승인지 모르고 있다가 기록지를 보고 알았다. 이렇게 팀의 기세가 좋은지 몰랐는데 연승인 줄 알고 더 힘이 났다. 4라운드 초반 2연승으로 기세가 좋은데 지금 이 기세라면 4라운드 전 경기 3:0 승리를 거둘 것 같다. 연승이라 힘이 나고 그 중심에 내가 있고 싶다.
- 바투 스타리그 결승전 이후 첫 대결이었는데 ▲ 관심 많이 가져주시는 매치에서 승리해 기분 좋다. 그리고 이제동 선수와 결승전을 할 때도 상대가 그렇게 잘한다는 생각은 갖고 있지 않았다. 그래서 오늘도 자신감 있게 경기할 수 있었고 다음에 만나도 이길 수 있을 것 같다.
- 발키리를 다소 허무하게 잃긴 했는데 ▲ 오늘따라 유난히 긴장을 많이 했다. 마치 데뷔전을 하는 것처럼 부대지정도 풀리고 무아지경 상태에서 게임을 한 것 같다. 긴장을 하지 않는 편인데 이제동 선수는 나를 긴장하게 만드는 능력이 있는 것 같다.
- 결승전 패배를 씻기 위한 각오로 경기에 임했을 텐데 ▲ 나는 그런 생각 없이 경기에 임했다. 그냥 편하게 경기하겠다는 생각뿐이었다. 매일 경기석에 들어갈 때 ‘연습처럼 편하게 경기하자’는 마음가짐으로 들어가는데 오늘도 그랬다. 앞으로 계속 이겨서 이제동 선수에게 ‘정명훈 트라우마’가 생기도록 하겠다.
- 최근 경기력이 많이 좋아졌는데 ▲ 지난 결승전 이후로 실력이 더 늘어난 것 같다. 팀 내에서의 연습을 바탕으로 자신감도 많이 생긴다. 하지만 아직 4라운드에서 2승 밖에 하지 못해서 방심은 이르다. 매번 초반에는 잘하다가 후반에 무너졌는데 4라운드에서는 후반까지 이 기세를 이어가고 싶다.
- 경기력의 상승의 비결을 꼽는다면 ▲ 요즘 (임)요환이 형과 최연성 코치님께 많이 배우고 싶다. 오늘 빌드도 최 코치님께서 많이 도와주신 전략이다. 앞으로도 더욱 멋진 경기 보여드릴 수 있을 것 같다. 주변에서 특히 요환이 형께서 칭찬을 많이 해주신다. 그리고 팀원들도 잘한다고 칭찬을 많이 해줘서 더욱 경기가 잘 된다.
- 마지막으로 하고 싶은 말이 있다면 ▲ 지난달부터 말하고 싶었는데 하지 못한 말이 있다. 요환이 형의 여자친구분께서 마우스 패드 보호대를 만들어주셨다. 그때 이후로 게임이 굉장히 잘되는 것 같다. 감사하다는 말 전하고 싶다. 그리고 오늘 우리 스페셜포스 팀이 첫 출전하는데 거기에도 많은 관심과 응원 부탁 드린다. 마지막으로 오늘 차를 타고 오면서 멀미를 했는데 (도)재욱이 형이 웬일로 직접 약을 사줬다. 그래서 굉장히 고마웠고, 많이 힘들었는데 그 덕분에 많이 좋아졌다. 재욱이 형에게도 고맙다.
-- Definitely not perfect... been a while since I've translated - feedback encouraged and welcome! 
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+ Show Spoiler +"Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great." Oh my.
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Fantasy Interview was the best. Love how the team spirit looks very strong for my favorite team. I hope we do well this season!!!!!!!
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awesome, thank you. love these three guys
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ha ha I had the same reaction to that. Overall great interviews. Thumbs Up
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Damn nice interviews, T1 fighting!
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Oh wow: "Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great." And you lost... why? Hmmm.
Thanks for the translation.
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On April 19 2009 18:56 Musoeun wrote: Oh wow: "Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great." And you lost... why? Hmmm.
Thanks for the translation.
He came damn close and lost 2-3, I think he definitely has the right to say this. It's not like he cheesed two wins and then lost straight up the rest either.
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Wow, Bisu not being arrogant in his interview? I'm disappointed
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Love Fantasy's attitude (and play). Great honesty.
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"Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great." lol, what do you think about yourself then
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I'm in a stage where I'm playing well and my skills are improving
so win the fucking OSL, jeez
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"I believe we’ve worked hard enough even to surpass Hwaseung’s Spartan-like training"
heaps good
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nice translations!!
boxer has a gf? did not know
and he seemed pretty confident, saying jaedong "wasnt that great"
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I think Fantasy just meant that Jaedong wasn't THAT great. Many people(including Korean progamers) are in awe when speaking of Jaedong. I think Fantasy was just trying to say he felt like Jaedong was "just another opponent" instead of a monster.
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well he is a monster 
As I see it, there is no game (okey might be some) this year or two aside from the one vs Free where Jaedong get outplayed, he trips on his own when he losses.
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On April 19 2009 19:11 Scaramanga wrote: "Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great." lol, what do you think about yourself then What? You've never felt like this before? I find that odd.
There have been plenty of times where I didn't feel that my opponent in whatever wasn't that good. That's just simply admitting that neither me nor my opponent did well. What's wrong with that?
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lol, MuMyung must be a really good coach for TheZerg Mummy fighting!
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KIM TAEK YONG HWAITING!!!!! also skt1 and awesome interviews
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MuMyung was way underrated He was decent to good for a long time.
Lol @ Boxer's gf making fantasy a mousepad protector (i think he may just mean mousepad).
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Today’s build is a strategy that Coach iloveoov helped out a lot with.
Some people in the thread were saying he came up with that one his own. Good to have hard evidence that they're wrong.
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On April 19 2009 19:43 BanZu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2009 19:11 Scaramanga wrote: "Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great." lol, what do you think about yourself then What? You've never felt like this before? I find that odd. There have been plenty of times where I didn't feel that my opponent in whatever wasn't that good. That's just simply admitting that neither me nor my opponent did well. What's wrong with that? but its simply not true. they both played well.
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I think what he means is that Jaedong isn't super invincible because he doesn't have the magic ability (that nobody has btw) to comes up with intricate counters to oov's strategies on the fly, and he actually needs to play against those strategies once or twice before he can't beat them.
</jaedong fan>
(eventually oov will run out of new builds and Jaedong will start to beat Fantasy every time)
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On April 19 2009 19:03 writer22816 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2009 18:56 Musoeun wrote: Oh wow: "Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great." And you lost... why? Hmmm.
Thanks for the translation. He came damn close and lost 2-3, I think he definitely has the right to say this. It's not like he cheesed two wins and then lost straight up the rest either.
what?
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What's wrong with not feeling JD is that great? you feel what you feel. If there is one person who can say that it's fantasy.
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konadora
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Good job on the translation  Glad to see MuMyung is still so active
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In the future I will continue to win and become ‘Fantasy Trauma’ to Jaedong.
yessss
Great interviews. Man I love T1. Good job guys!
And thank you Smix!!
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Mummy is just awesome~ and so is Boxer of course~... T1 FIGHTING~ ^_^; oh and get rid of bisu.. hes not T1 worthy, due to lack of being cool -_-
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I'm so excited to watch the T1 Special Force team develop!
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Fantasy is growing an ego..Oov must be rubbing off on him <3 I can't get enough of him, "Fantasy Trauma"
I'd say he is Trauma Terran because his vulture harass would make anyone's blood pressure rise ;O
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Fantasy will always prepare slightly-off brilliant builds against his opponents. That's always been his strength. He's bound to take some games here and there just due to the highly optimized nature of his specific builds. It's impossible for Jaedong to beat them all. But in the long run, I'm sure Jaedong will come out on top. Fantasy's letting this win get to his head.
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:O Bisu's arrogance in interviews is rubbing off on Fantasy.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
aw shit i get car sick too. never heard of medicine for it :p
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haha BeSt buying medicine for Fantasy
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I want a mouse pad protector O_O Whatever it is...
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On April 19 2009 19:11 Scaramanga wrote: "Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great." lol, what do you think about yourself then . [/QUOTE] Yes, but I think the point is that Fantasy didn't think Jaedong is far above him (not sAviOr vs restofcrowd style skill difference).
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Fuck Fantasy, die in a corner
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Oov and Fantasy better hope they never meet Jaedong near a staircase.
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JUST finished watching it. Utterly amazing.
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Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great.
FANTASY RATES JAEDONG A 2/10.
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"This is just the beginning" <- watch out world.
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Thanks for the translation.
That match was really nice - TheZerg's game showed some unorthodox play, Bisu's game was a nice come back and Fantasy versus Jaedong was a really intense game.
The spooked-wheel map (Heartbreak ridge) has had some really, really exciting TvZs on it.
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skt1 has always been my favorite team. They are full of heroes. I mean come on, Fantasy, Bisu, oov, BOXER!
Thats good that The-Zerg won his matches. Its got to be tough being in the sk house when you are the only zerg there who is holding the torch to be a representative, and continually fails, and finally pulls through wins. Thats just great.
And theres too much to say about fantasy and bisu. I mean come on.. they are the best.
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On April 20 2009 01:42 StRyKeR wrote: Fantasy will always prepare slightly-off brilliant builds against his opponents. That's always been his strength. He's bound to take some games here and there just due to the highly optimized nature of his specific builds. It's impossible for Jaedong to beat them all. But in the long run, I'm sure Jaedong will come out on top. Fantasy's letting this win get to his head.
You could argue that Fantasy is already doing this well while still having noticeable room for improvement in his control (and maybe even macro).
On the other hand, JD appears to be nearly maxed out in terms of his potential. All credit to JD's incredible skill and will for winning that OSL (and he gets credit in the form of an additional OSL...). But he was very close to losing and we'd all be singing a different tune in that case.
The last time we saw a Zerg repeatedly overcome the odds while walking an increasingly fine line in ZvT, it was Savior.
JD's "weakness" (if you can call it that) is his over-reliance on his control, and corresponding over-aggression, which results in him being less innovative (unless you count "build only Mutalisks" as an innovation ... where are the Queens nowadays??). Being innovative is one of those skills that seems to be pretty hard to learn, some progamers seem have it (Fantasy, UpMagic, and believe it or not, Flash even though people don't give him credit for it) and others don't.
It's not inconceivable that Fantasy's mechanics will improve a lot over the next six months. In what way can JD match this improvement?
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Great interviews! Thanks as always for translating them.
I hope this really is just the beginning for TheZerg. I find him fun to watch and he plays unorthodox builds which is always my Achilles' heel when it comes to liking players.
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lol fantasy xD confident said jaedong not that great
i guess he is rly wanna revenge in the next osl?
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Hmm..Fantasy doesn't seem to be affected-or at least, not showing any disastrous mental setback-from his two 3-2 OSL Grand Final losses. That's a sign of a strong mentality there.
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lol geez, what's with everyone reading so much into that one comment.
Jaedong isn't bonjwa dominant, nor is anyone else. What's the big deal?
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4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8.
Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great.
If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH.
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On April 20 2009 02:23 Kentor wrote: aw shit i get car sick too. never heard of medicine for it :p
Motion sickness most likely.
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On April 20 2009 08:54 [X]Ken_D wrote:4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8. If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH. JD screwed up, so Fantasy doesn't think he's that great. Seems reasonable to me.
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On April 20 2009 09:23 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2009 08:54 [X]Ken_D wrote:4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8. Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great.
If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH. JD screwed up, so Fantasy doesn't think he's that great. Seems reasonable to me.
We can say the same thing about Fantasy, except that, him, he screwed up 3 games in a row.
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On April 20 2009 09:23 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2009 08:54 [X]Ken_D wrote:4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8. Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great.
If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH. JD screwed up, so Fantasy doesn't think he's that great. Seems reasonable to me. Jaedong loses -> He's not that great. Yes, that's a good philosophy, no one that plays the game is great. I don't think there is anyway that a reasonable impartial person will not think that Fantasy is a little arrogant.
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On April 20 2009 08:54 [X]Ken_D wrote:4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8. If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH. 1) it's a translation 2) Jaedong was not ahead, since he had no tech switch options, and really needed fantasy to not roll out, so he had to apply muta pressure to pin him in. Jaedong never 'suicided' his mutalisks
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On April 20 2009 09:54 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2009 09:23 Dfgj wrote:On April 20 2009 08:54 [X]Ken_D wrote:4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8. Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great.
If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH. JD screwed up, so Fantasy doesn't think he's that great. Seems reasonable to me. Jaedong loses -> He's not that great. Welcome to every Protoss anti-fan's opinion of Bisu.
Any way if you read back to an iloveoov interview, iloveoov once said that he intentionally sounds arrogant in his interviews to put psychological pressure on all his opponents in future matches.
Probably something he taught SKT1 members to do.
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It's official: Fantasy is a genius. And yes I know his legendary peers help develop the builds for him.
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On April 20 2009 08:54 [X]Ken_D wrote:4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8. If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH.
Shut up you have no idea about TvZ. 5 gas and 15 drones mining minerals is useless, especially with no hive tech (which would enable guardian use, at least, for ALL THAT GOSU GAS). Also he was suciding his mutalisk because he knew that if Fantasy is allowed to step out of his base, JD would lose (BECAUSE OF HIS LACK OF DRONES/OTHER ARMY). He was not ahead. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Also, if this would have been the first time I'd seen JD play, I wouldn't think he was "that great" either (and I'm a JD fan, don't get me wrong). The man just spoke of what he experienced. Looking forward for the rematch.
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On April 20 2009 05:24 Fr33t wrote: Oov and Fantasy better hope they never meet Jaedong near a staircase.
Lol you serious?Gorilla Oov ?
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I'm still blown away by how Fantasy was able to get all that tech in time for 2hatch Muta..
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konadora
Singapore66153 Posts
i lol'd at Thezerg's postcard with the pokeball "I shall catch the Magikarp today!"
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On April 20 2009 10:37 Kyo Yuy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2009 09:54 Avidkeystamper wrote:On April 20 2009 09:23 Dfgj wrote:On April 20 2009 08:54 [X]Ken_D wrote:4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8. Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great.
If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH. JD screwed up, so Fantasy doesn't think he's that great. Seems reasonable to me. Jaedong loses -> He's not that great. Welcome to every Protoss anti-fan's opinion of Bisu. Any way if you read back to an iloveoov interview, iloveoov once said that he intentionally sounds arrogant in his interviews to put psychological pressure on all his opponents in future matches. Probably something he taught SKT1 members to do. Doesn't make it right. This isn't even comparable since no one in the pro scene says Bisu's "not that great".
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On April 20 2009 10:47 Mista wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2009 05:24 Fr33t wrote: Oov and Fantasy better hope they never meet Jaedong near a staircase. Lol you serious?Gorilla Oov ? What's the saying? The bigger they are the harder they fall?
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Is it wrong that I have naughty thoughts about Fantasy?
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konadora
Singapore66153 Posts
On April 20 2009 11:32 sk` wrote: Is it wrong that I have naughty thoughts about Fantasy? wut
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He looks just like Boxer afterall. Well...similar. And who doesn't have thoughts about the emperor?
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lol gjgjgjgj
skt1 monster team now
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On April 20 2009 11:06 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2009 10:37 Kyo Yuy wrote:On April 20 2009 09:54 Avidkeystamper wrote:On April 20 2009 09:23 Dfgj wrote:On April 20 2009 08:54 [X]Ken_D wrote:4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8. Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great.
If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH. JD screwed up, so Fantasy doesn't think he's that great. Seems reasonable to me. Jaedong loses -> He's not that great. Welcome to every Protoss anti-fan's opinion of Bisu. Any way if you read back to an iloveoov interview, iloveoov once said that he intentionally sounds arrogant in his interviews to put psychological pressure on all his opponents in future matches. Probably something he taught SKT1 members to do. Doesn't make it right. This isn't even comparable since no one in the pro scene says Bisu's "not that great". Bisu also called Hwasin his insurance and looked at how that worked.
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On April 20 2009 12:09 Railz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2009 11:06 Avidkeystamper wrote:On April 20 2009 10:37 Kyo Yuy wrote:On April 20 2009 09:54 Avidkeystamper wrote:On April 20 2009 09:23 Dfgj wrote:On April 20 2009 08:54 [X]Ken_D wrote:4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8. Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great.
If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH. JD screwed up, so Fantasy doesn't think he's that great. Seems reasonable to me. Jaedong loses -> He's not that great. Welcome to every Protoss anti-fan's opinion of Bisu. Any way if you read back to an iloveoov interview, iloveoov once said that he intentionally sounds arrogant in his interviews to put psychological pressure on all his opponents in future matches. Probably something he taught SKT1 members to do. Doesn't make it right. This isn't even comparable since no one in the pro scene says Bisu's "not that great". Bisu also called Hwasin his insurance and looked at how that worked. Yeah, he won the Bo5 against him, so that means...oh wait.
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Wow at Fantasy's poke on Jaedong. That takes balls. Massive balls.
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I think he meant that, BEFORE the finals, he didn't think Jaedong was that good, not after. I'm probably wrong.
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Nice interviews! Oov and Boxer knew the force was strong in Fantasy.
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On April 20 2009 12:54 Clow wrote: I think he meant that, BEFORE the finals, he didn't think Jaedong was that good, not after. I'm probably wrong. "Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great" Whatever, it's his opinion.
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On April 20 2009 13:02 GTR wrote:looks like a guy from f4
Vic Zhou!
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On April 19 2009 19:08 darktreb wrote: Love Fantasy's attitude (and play). Great honesty. Yeah, very fun interview.
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On April 20 2009 11:06 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2009 10:37 Kyo Yuy wrote:On April 20 2009 09:54 Avidkeystamper wrote:On April 20 2009 09:23 Dfgj wrote:On April 20 2009 08:54 [X]Ken_D wrote:4-4 SKT Zerg? That's a huge accomplishment. Typically it is 0-8. Also, when I played Jaedong in the finals I didn’t think he was that great.
If Jaedong didn't screw up with suiciding his mutalisks, Fantasy would face another rape. Jaedong was ahead the majority of the game with 4-5 gas! Fantasy, get off your high horse. You're starting to remind me of FBH. JD screwed up, so Fantasy doesn't think he's that great. Seems reasonable to me. Jaedong loses -> He's not that great. Welcome to every Protoss anti-fan's opinion of Bisu. Any way if you read back to an iloveoov interview, iloveoov once said that he intentionally sounds arrogant in his interviews to put psychological pressure on all his opponents in future matches. Probably something he taught SKT1 members to do. Doesn't make it right. This isn't even comparable since no one in the pro scene says Bisu's "not that great". magma[S.G] would like to have a word with you.
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Awesome interview, Fantasy was especially fun to read. Thanks for the translation.
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On April 20 2009 06:14 Sadistx wrote:FANTASY RATES JAEDONG A 2/10.
hahahahha
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fantasy should have also insulted jaedong's fangirls and his mother, that would rule in an interview
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konadora
Singapore66153 Posts
On April 20 2009 21:00 immacolate wrote: fantasy should have also insulted jaedong's fangirls and his mother, that would rule in an interview That will get you stoned and burned alive. Why the fuck would you insult his fangirls and his mother?
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fantasy, not me.
he already stated that he will become jaedong's nemesis in the future, so why not make things even more interesting with some personal insults?
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because it's retarded
i mean from where you come from it may be common to do but in korea no.
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what the f...k do you know about where I come from?
I guess a person loses a lot of sense of humor by posting 16000 times on an internet forum
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On April 19 2009 19:18 disciple wrote: I'm in a stage where I'm playing well and my skills are improving
so win the fucking OSL, jeez
yep, like winning a starleague is really that easy
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On April 19 2009 22:38 scwizard wrote: (eventually oov will run out of new builds and Jaedong will start to beat Fantasy every time) are you stupid? That's like saying since everyone knows Bisu's famous sair/dt build, every zerg should be able to kick his ass all over the place
or saying since all tosses know how to play against the FD push, P>T when T 2 fac. It's all about excecution and concentration
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On April 20 2009 22:07 immacolate wrote: what the f...k do you know about where I come from?
I guess a person loses a lot of sense of humor by posting 16000 times on an internet forum ..... this makes my eyes bleed ban please
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Give him a break. He just tried to make a joke and it didn't work out... I know the feeling.
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T1, Grand Finals Champion. Like I ever doubted... pff.
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It was his first match since the starleague wildcard. - Before the match while chatting, I asked him how his waist was and he replied that it still wasn’t fully healed. I told him that I would definitely buy him dinner next time and to give me a call before the game started.
Damn you Bisu for having giving a heartwarming, humble interview. It makes it very hard to nurse a fanboy grudge. That quote is seriously 'awww'-worthy.
Fantasy, thankfully, is a prick.
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I am pretty sure fantasy meant JD wasn't that far above him, or that is how I read it. Like oh he's not THAT great, just another very high skill player like me.
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so glad boxer's back. and mumyung's really stepping up...isnt he just a teen..
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konadora
Singapore66153 Posts
On April 20 2009 22:07 immacolate wrote: what the f...k do you know about where I come from?
I guess a person loses a lot of sense of humor by posting 16000 times on an internet forum

Just to let you know, it's extremely rude to insult ANYONE's parents. Regardless of where you come from.
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Lol. Poor guy tried to make a joke (a hyperbole of what Fantasy was doing) and now everyone is on his ass as if he actually supports the insulting of parents or something?
Lighten up, people. :-/
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On April 22 2009 12:42 Elvin_vn wrote: title is spoiler =__=; Yeah, it totally gives away the fact that one of the two teams won ¬¬
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wtf, he says he was confident because he didn't think jaedong was that great, then he was "unusually nervous"? That doesn't make sense.
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I love the comment about JD and I love how he says iloveoov was the one helping him with that strat... thats funny how in game when he was clearly loosing to JDs muta harass they put the camera on iloveoov and he had that face like "ahh shit, its my fault lawl"
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Hasn't that guy been banned several times now?
He just keeps coming back for more lol.
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Argh free and now Bisu, I'm beginning to hate the sunken contain
thanks for the translation!
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On April 22 2009 12:51 Zato-1 wrote:Yeah, it totally gives away the fact that one of the two teams won ¬¬ sry, wrong thread
i meant to post in the ACE vs KTF WINNER! interview thread
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Wow, LOL with Fantasy's interview, damn, I wish I was at good as they are.
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I think Fantasy expected Jaedong to do better in the finals.
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Don't really think fantasy was saying jaedong is less, he's probably saying he's beatable and people talk about jaedong on some godlike level that he is not the end all opponent. Probably overestimation and intimidates the challanger into a bad spot kinda thing. Though if you're reading this you should check JD's recent games played, I think you'll be pleasently suprised. All these excuses about jaedong faulting himself and revealing chinks in the armor are his own just as any other top player has done, JD is no exception.
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ty for the interview 
Fantasy HWAITING
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i thought he was just saying that Jaedong is not as good as he's hyped up to be of course every terran player is going to blow a load all over their monitor and say:
"LOLFAG FANTASY>JAEDONG EZ U ALL RETARD"
and every zerg player is going to say: "OMFG BM JAEDONG IS TEH BEST"
but obviously Fantasy doesn't mean Jaedong is "not that great" in general, as in, below himself.
edit: On April 20 2009 22:07 immacolate wrote: what the f...k do you know about where I come from?
I guess a person loses a lot of sense of humor by posting 16000 times on an internet forum
what are you doing? your joke didn't work on an ONLINE FORUM so you insult people on an ONLINE FORUM for not having a sense of humor.
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