but uhh...is that really tossgirl throwing the chair and knocking over the sign near the end after losing? O_o edit: It was not actually her throwing anything afterall :p just a sign dropping
Mod edit:
On March 31 2009 19:18 Artosis wrote: part 1:
part 2:
if the guy who made this post could update first page so everyone would realize its on youtube that would be great, thx.
did anyone else think artosis was making idra unnecessarily nervous?
"so, how ya feelin? feelin nervous? ya think ya can take this guy? btw did you know you're white, and that white people don't play sc in korea very much, and you're pretty much the first white guy to play in a televised match in four years? so...feelin nervous?"
when tasteless was covering the game, he mentioned that idra looked very calm and collected. from the scforall video, he looked anything but.
idra, good job at the tournament. It's a pity that you lost but, hey, you still lost with class and at least you'll be in the right place at the right time when SCII hits the scene , and you'll be starting on equal footing with everyone else.
About that Tossgirl incident: man, someone should have recorded it! I mean, in a way that we can actually see her lifting the board and throwing it in the ground. In that video, we barely see anything.
Idra clearly has absolutely no social skills heh. Everytime he was filmed, he would look away, say something, look away, say something lol.. Most people who have that behavior are either A) really unexperienced in the social world or B) very very nervous or C) A and B.
Hes a young guy, his first time doing something like this, I can't blame him. I laughed throughout the entire video ^^
On March 31 2009 12:03 LuckyFool wrote: Yeah I can't seem to get past 35% for some reason. I had to start buffer over again and it's taking forever. argh.
Did you do the rightclick>folder thing>unlimited or whatever?
Dude the best part was Tossgirl showing her true colors. She looks so calm and collected on screen, but when the cameras are off it's a whole 'nother story. LOL, did you see the guy dodge the sign she threw? God that is nerd rage for sure.
On March 31 2009 13:38 Shengster wrote: Dude the best part was Tossgirl showing her true colors. She looks so calm and collected on screen, but when the cameras are off it's a whole 'nother story. LOL, did you see the guy dodge the sign she threw? God that is nerd rage for sure.
ofc she would be mad. she made some REALLY trivial stupid mistakes, and probably wouldve won otherwise fairly easily. she is a really good terran player, i can see that from her play, esp her marine vs lurker micro. the way she was retreating like that was pretty sick. she killed a lot of lurkers even when she was relaly outnumbered. she realy shouldve won against casey.
On March 31 2009 13:38 Shengster wrote: Dude the best part was Tossgirl showing her true colors. She looks so calm and collected on screen, but when the cameras are off it's a whole 'nother story. LOL, did you see the guy dodge the sign she threw? God that is nerd rage for sure.
ofc she would be mad. she made some REALLY trivial stupid mistakes, and probably wouldve won otherwise fairly easily. she is a really good terran player, i can see that from her play, esp her marine vs lurker micro. the way she was retreating like that was pretty sick. she killed a lot of lurkers even when she was relaly outnumbered. she realy shouldve won against casey.
Do you not see the irony of her actions and her name? "Toss" Girl. She tosses that sign just like she tosses away her games. If she was so good, she wouldn't have made the same mistakes in Game 2.
I love apologetics, they're just taking fanboyism to a new level.
On March 31 2009 13:16 BunkerPush wrote: Idra clearly has absolutely no social skills heh. Everytime he was filmed, he would look away, say something, look away, say something lol.. Most people who have that behavior are either A) really unexperienced in the social world or B) very very nervous or C) A and B.
Hes a young guy, his first time doing something like this, I can't blame him. I laughed throughout the entire video ^^
On March 31 2009 13:38 Shengster wrote: Dude the best part was Tossgirl showing her true colors. She looks so calm and collected on screen, but when the cameras are off it's a whole 'nother story. LOL, did you see the guy dodge the sign she threw? God that is nerd rage for sure.
ofc she would be mad. she made some REALLY trivial stupid mistakes, and probably wouldve won otherwise fairly easily. she is a really good terran player, i can see that from her play, esp her marine vs lurker micro. the way she was retreating like that was pretty sick. she killed a lot of lurkers even when she was relaly outnumbered. she realy shouldve won against casey.
Do you not see the irony of her actions and her name? "Toss" Girl. She tosses that sign just like she tosses away her games. If she was so good, she wouldn't have made the same mistakes in Game 2.
I love apologetics, they're just taking fanboyism to a new level.
On March 31 2009 13:38 Shengster wrote: Dude the best part was Tossgirl showing her true colors. She looks so calm and collected on screen, but when the cameras are off it's a whole 'nother story. LOL, did you see the guy dodge the sign she threw? God that is nerd rage for sure.
ofc she would be mad. she made some REALLY trivial stupid mistakes, and probably wouldve won otherwise fairly easily. she is a really good terran player, i can see that from her play, esp her marine vs lurker micro. the way she was retreating like that was pretty sick. she killed a lot of lurkers even when she was relaly outnumbered. she realy shouldve won against casey.
Do you not see the irony of her actions and her name? "Toss" Girl. She tosses that sign just like she tosses away her games. If she was so good, she wouldn't have made the same mistakes in Game 2.
I love apologetics, they're just taking fanboyism to a new level.
I guess all protoss players are fucking tossers.
I think Artosis would agree with you on that one buddy. Right on!
On March 31 2009 13:38 Shengster wrote: Dude the best part was Tossgirl showing her true colors. She looks so calm and collected on screen, but when the cameras are off it's a whole 'nother story. LOL, did you see the guy dodge the sign she threw? God that is nerd rage for sure.
ofc she would be mad. she made some REALLY trivial stupid mistakes, and probably wouldve won otherwise fairly easily. she is a really good terran player, i can see that from her play, esp her marine vs lurker micro. the way she was retreating like that was pretty sick. she killed a lot of lurkers even when she was relaly outnumbered. she realy shouldve won against casey.
Do you not see the irony of her actions and her name? "Toss" Girl. She tosses that sign just like she tosses away her games. If she was so good, she wouldn't have made the same mistakes in Game 2.
I love apologetics, they're just taking fanboyism to a new level.
On March 31 2009 13:38 Shengster wrote: Dude the best part was Tossgirl showing her true colors. She looks so calm and collected on screen, but when the cameras are off it's a whole 'nother story. LOL, did you see the guy dodge the sign she threw? God that is nerd rage for sure.
ofc she would be mad. she made some REALLY trivial stupid mistakes, and probably wouldve won otherwise fairly easily. she is a really good terran player, i can see that from her play, esp her marine vs lurker micro. the way she was retreating like that was pretty sick. she killed a lot of lurkers even when she was relaly outnumbered. she realy shouldve won against casey.
Do you not see the irony of her actions and her name? "Toss" Girl. She tosses that sign just like she tosses away her games. If she was so good, she wouldn't have made the same mistakes in Game 2.
I love apologetics, they're just taking fanboyism to a new level.
I guess all protoss players are fucking tossers.
But she doesnt play... nevermind
You people are missing the fact that the "toss" in "tossgirl" stands for protoss.
IdrA you need to stop slouching, and show some go damn confidence! You are living the god damn dream of many of us foreigners. You listen to artosis and smile
On March 31 2009 15:38 CaucasianAsian wrote: IdrA you need to stop slouching, and show some go damn confidence! You are living the god damn dream of many of us foreigners. You listen to artosis and smile
I agree, IdrA needs to hold his head higher. He looked pretty nervous in the waiting room there, but put on a pretty good show in the series IMO. IdrA just seems a hair away from making a pretty super breakthrough at CJ...I hope it doesn't stay that way.
ScForAll seriously is the worst streaming site I've ever been on. I've never successfully streamed a single video there. Yes, I have right clicked and slid the bar to unlimited. Doesn't do shit. The only thing that works is directly downloading the FLV file whenever someone links it here.
On March 31 2009 13:16 BunkerPush wrote: Idra clearly has absolutely no social skills heh. Everytime he was filmed, he would look away, say something, look away, say something lol.. Most people who have that behavior are either A) really unexperienced in the social world or B) very very nervous or C) A and B.
Hes a young guy, his first time doing something like this, I can't blame him. I laughed throughout the entire video ^^
if you watch some of artosis's other videos of idra, you'll see that idra is usually much more relaxed. perhaps not the most articulate, but definitely not the nervous wreck that anyone would be in his situation.
LOL I filmed the second half of that and Dan was standing in the way the whole time. Next time I'm just going to shove him out of the way. As for the streaming - just be patient and wait for the youtube if it doesn't work well for you! We do our best (although I have nothing to do with video uploads, only photos and some impromptu camera work.)
On March 31 2009 13:16 BunkerPush wrote: Idra clearly has absolutely no social skills heh. Everytime he was filmed, he would look away, say something, look away, say something lol.. Most people who have that behavior are either A) really unexperienced in the social world or B) very very nervous or C) A and B.
Hes a young guy, his first time doing something like this, I can't blame him. I laughed throughout the entire video ^^
if you watch some of artosis's other videos of idra, you'll see that idra is usually much more relaxed. perhaps not the most articulate, but definitely not the nervous wreck that anyone would be in his situation.
lol I dont think you can say someone has no social skills from that video lol. If i was greating ready to for a match I never used to like to talk to anyone. b4 I wrestled I used to get pretty pissed really if people kept talking too me. So maybe Idra was just trying to get his mind right.
On March 31 2009 13:16 BunkerPush wrote: Idra clearly has absolutely no social skills heh. Everytime he was filmed, he would look away, say something, look away, say something lol.. Most people who have that behavior are either A) really unexperienced in the social world or B) very very nervous or C) A and B.
Hes a young guy, his first time doing something like this, I can't blame him. I laughed throughout the entire video ^^
wtf... he was before match so u think that he was in mood to some talking? and i btw agree that artosis making more nervous by his talk btw : how old is he? twelve?:D
On March 31 2009 11:34 mijellin wrote: did anyone else think artosis was making idra unnecessarily nervous?
"so, how ya feelin? feelin nervous? ya think ya can take this guy? btw did you know you're white, and that white people don't play sc in korea very much, and you're pretty much the first white guy to play in a televised match in four years? so...feelin nervous?"
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Yeah, i tought that too. He should be more careful when filming someone on his first aired match. Alltough you hold a camera, you are still part of the scene, you are not an unaffecting outsider.
I really like what Artosis said when Greg was going into the booth. "Love him or hate him, he is what is left of the foreigners, so I hope everyone roots for him"
Hey Artosis, thanks for your work bridging the gap to the proscene and I mean bridge literally. These camcorder stuff behind the scenes and such is very cool. It's doesn't look sloppy at all so don't polish it up too much, rough is cool too. On that note, if you get a chance to a meet with progamers or coaches, I'd suggest an on-the-fly style in that manner instead of a typical look into the camera standup interview so, if lucky, their buttocks don't have time to clench up. Even if you do edit it and execute in a typical interview style, walking in with camera and shot of people's chests while saying hello before the cut to the interview would make it at least seem flowing in that manner.
tasteless was just joking around, it wasnt her. you couldnt actually see what it was but she was already back in the waiting room before me and trap came out. (people were talking about when a sign or a chair or something made a crashing noise in the background)
On March 31 2009 15:38 CaucasianAsian wrote: IdrA you need to stop slouching, and show some go damn confidence! You are living the god damn dream of many of us foreigners. You listen to artosis and smile
And I think people should stop to tell him what he should do and what not. He is not responsible to live a dream for other people who like to see a charasmatic brad pitt who plays in the name of all of them. To this confidence thing: Sure people need to have confidence. But confidence is not about all time mentioning, having smart thoughts or playing the big boss in front of the camera. Either you got it in you to a certain extent or not. You get it by the routine and positive recognition. Not by the fact that people always try to mother you around or you need always to take a role to satisfy others.
So IMO the first step is that people should accept the fact that he is in first place more a shy person irl. Especially friends and those who are around him. Applied to that video I think its positive when people are around you and distract you a bit with fun talk like the DT stuff when you are nervous about a big upcoming event. But to often all this eye of the tiger and questioning my confidence stuff would annoy me when I would be in his place.
Hrmm last night I tried watching this and after 7 mins into it I would get nowhere. I even let it load for like 45 mins and still got nothing. Can't wait to get home to watch the rest of this.
Thank you very much for recording these videos Artosis. I've been weighing the pros and cons of a trip to Seoul these last few days and you've really tipped the scales for me in favour of going.
Congrats to IdrA on living the dream. I think everyone who visits this site would love to be doing what he's doing, if only for a while. I'd love to see him increase his "star quality". It shouldn't be hard amongst the sea of inanimate micro machines. We've seen in the past that it only takes a wink to cause waves amongst the fans.
On March 31 2009 20:44 Stimpacked wrote: damn I envy IdrA, I had this one in my dreams MSL Finals though against Jaedong... hahaha
Do you really envy him? I read a lot of posts say how he's living a dream and all that. But seriously, how many people actually want to play starcraft 24/7? Not to mention using the same build over and over.
TBH, I'm pretty impressed Idra managed to stick in Korea for as long as he did. I personally would've gone off the deep end after 2 weeks.
On March 31 2009 20:44 Stimpacked wrote: damn I envy IdrA, I had this one in my dreams MSL Finals though against Jaedong... hahaha
Do you really envy him? I read a lot of posts say how he's living a dream and all that. But seriously, how many people actually want to play starcraft 24/7? Not to mention using the same build over and over.
TBH, I'm pretty impressed Idra managed to stick in Korea for as long as he did. I personally would've gone off the deep end after 2 weeks.
its like most other sports, dont you practice something over and over? the point of that its for it to become second nature, once that happens and u can do things without thinking about them you can have fun and whatnot, and improvising in game of course which is key for any sport
On March 31 2009 20:44 Stimpacked wrote: damn I envy IdrA, I had this one in my dreams MSL Finals though against Jaedong... hahaha
Do you really envy him? I read a lot of posts say how he's living a dream and all that. But seriously, how many people actually want to play starcraft 24/7? Not to mention using the same build over and over.
TBH, I'm pretty impressed Idra managed to stick in Korea for as long as he did. I personally would've gone off the deep end after 2 weeks.
its like most other sports, dont you practice something over and over? the point of that its for it to become second nature, once that happens and u can do things without thinking about them you can have fun and whatnot, and improvising in game of course which is key for any sport
We all play or have played starcraft. We played it because it was fun, and so we played it even more. Idra played it so often, that he got really good, and was offered to be given money to play the game. Play a fun game and make money doing it? Hell yes, that sounds awesome right?
Well for a while, it is awesome, it's like "I'm making $20 for playing this game". But then, it gets to the point where you stop playing it because its fun, but instead like a job. You begin to lose the idea that the game is fun, and you concentrate more about the money.
On March 31 2009 15:38 CaucasianAsian wrote: IdrA you need to stop slouching, and show some go damn confidence! You are living the god damn dream of many of us foreigners. You listen to artosis and smile
And I think people should stop to tell him what he should do and what not. He is not responsible to live a dream for other people who like to see a charasmatic brad pitt who plays in the name of all of them. To this confidence thing: Sure people need to have confidence. But confidence is not about all time mentioning, having smart thoughts or playing the big boss in front of the camera. Either you got it in you to a certain extent or not. You get it by the routine and positive recognition. Not by the fact that people always try to mother you around or you need always to take a role to satisfy others.
So IMO the first step is that people should accept the fact that he is in first place more a shy person irl. Especially friends and those who are around him. Applied to that video I think its positive when people are around you and distract you a bit with fun talk like the DT stuff when you are nervous about a big upcoming event. But to often all this eye of the tiger and questioning my confidence stuff would annoy me when I would be in his place.
Confidence is not something you either have or not. It is something you can learn, and gradually gain. You have to be comfortable with who you are. In every video I have seen of Idra he seems to be really quiet, and speak really fast with short answers. Then when I played a few games against him, he seemed to talk a lot more. It gives me the impression that he has low self esteem. This is not something that "you either have or you don't". Sure in this video, he seemed to be really nervous, even when he claims he's not. So that can definitely factor into a bit of how he acted.
But now, that he has made it to be on TV, he can calm down a little bit. Hell, he already made it. He made it onto TV in Korea. There's nothing to be shy about, or nervous, or have low self esteem. He can relax, calm down, and realize that he is living his dream, of going to Korea and playing televised games against top tier professional gamers.
On March 31 2009 15:47 EscPlan9 wrote: ScForAll seriously is the worst streaming site I've ever been on. I've never successfully streamed a single video there. Yes, I have right clicked and slid the bar to unlimited. Doesn't do shit. The only thing that works is directly downloading the FLV file whenever someone links it here.
On April 01 2009 02:05 CaucasianAsian wrote: Confidence is not something you either have or not. It is something you can learn, and gradually gain. You have to be comfortable with who you are. In every video I have seen of Idra he seems to be really quiet, and speak really fast with short answers. Then when I played a few games against him, he seemed to talk a lot more. It gives me the impression that he has low self esteem. This is not something that "you either have or you don't". Sure in this video, he seemed to be really nervous, even when he claims he's not. So that can definitely factor into a bit of how he acted.
But now, that he has made it to be on TV, he can calm down a little bit. Hell, he already made it. He made it onto TV in Korea. There's nothing to be shy about, or nervous, or have low self esteem. He can relax, calm down, and realize that he is living his dream, of going to Korea and playing televised games against top tier professional gamers.
You didnt talked of "you either have it or you don't" in the context I wanted to refer to. I am talking about the particular moments. For example right before the show starts. What does it help to tell him in this moments he needs confidence, he should not be nervous and so on? Applied to THIS point he either got it or not. I never said that if you got no confidence then you are doomed to it forever. The difference I made was in the ways how you get more confidence and how certainly not.
When you got problems with your confidence you are the first person who experience the lack of it and you gain nothing by analysing yourself with deep thoughts. Do you think all this are rare smart thoughts that never came in Idras own mind if he got problems with it? Or it is: “Oh, I lack confidence. Mhm..but I have nothing to be ashamed of?! To bad I forgot it this time!” And after that all is different? As I said, the only way you learn confidence is by gaining positive experience, recognition and routine. Applied to this its counterproductive when you got only people around you which are mothering you, questioning your confidence and make a possible lack of it all the time to a subject.
Some people are to a certain extent also naturally shy and silent persons and either way it is not their feature and strength to talk all the time and entertain other people. So beeing shy is not in any case a disease you must cure immediately at any cost and when somebody got low self-esteem or is often to nervous, then again, the best thing as a friend you can do is accept him, do things together with him, give some feedback in a positive way and let him gain his own experience on his own feet in all of this.
For me its even more normal that you are nervous in such a situation like one of the first Korean progaming matches on stage than the other way around. Even people where you got the impression of high self-esteem get nervous in particular and rare situations like beeing in front of the camera or making a speech to a big audience. Because till this moment they had not much opportunities in their life to build up confidence for this, up to this point, more rare and decisive situations. When you got some advice and hints how someone can gain more confidence and avoid nervousness in his situation then rather talk about them instead of focussing on criticism about his possible current lack of it, which he, if its true, surely is already aware by himself.
I think his confidant will grow as he gets used to his situation and improves. Being confidant in such a situation is better, but IdrA doesn't seem to have any intrinsic issues in that regard.
We all play or have played starcraft. We played it because it was fun, and so we played it even more. Idra played it so often, that he got really good, and was offered to be given money to play the game. Play a fun game and make money doing it? Hell yes, that sounds awesome right?
really wrong idea behind this its hard to admit, but probably no matter how often had you played the outcome would be the same its not always amount of time = results you still need to have talent to be good at video games, esp starcraft
We all play or have played starcraft. We played it because it was fun, and so we played it even more. Idra played it so often, that he got really good, and was offered to be given money to play the game. Play a fun game and make money doing it? Hell yes, that sounds awesome right?
really wrong idea behind this its hard to admit, but probably no matter how often had you played the outcome would be the same its not always amount of time = results you still need to have talent to be good at video games, esp starcraft
We all play or have played starcraft. We played it because it was fun, and so we played it even more. Idra played it so often, that he got really good, and was offered to be given money to play the game. Play a fun game and make money doing it? Hell yes, that sounds awesome right?
really wrong idea behind this its hard to admit, but probably no matter how often had you played the outcome would be the same its not always amount of time = results you still need to have talent to be good at video games, esp starcraft
Hard work > Talent.
true however I think a talentless person can only go so far no matter how much work they put in
Thanks for the vids, it is great to get that look behind everything. But someone should sit down with Idra and give him some media training and show him how to act in front of a camera and on a stage.
And yeah, please scforall some cash that they are able to get a better camera, a wireless mic and a better video player
We all play or have played starcraft. We played it because it was fun, and so we played it even more. Idra played it so often, that he got really good, and was offered to be given money to play the game. Play a fun game and make money doing it? Hell yes, that sounds awesome right?
really wrong idea behind this its hard to admit, but probably no matter how often had you played the outcome would be the same its not always amount of time = results you still need to have talent to be good at video games, esp starcraft
Hard work > Talent.
true however I think a talentless person can only go so far no matter how much work they put in
I definitely think IdrA has allot of talent, and works very hard.
On March 31 2009 15:38 CaucasianAsian wrote: IdrA you need to stop slouching, and show some go damn confidence! You are living the god damn dream of many of us foreigners. You listen to artosis and smile
And I think people should stop to tell him what he should do and what not. He is not responsible to live a dream for other people who like to see a charasmatic brad pitt who plays in the name of all of them. To this confidence thing: Sure people need to have confidence. But confidence is not about all time mentioning, having smart thoughts or playing the big boss in front of the camera. Either you got it in you to a certain extent or not. You get it by the routine and positive recognition. Not by the fact that people always try to mother you around or you need always to take a role to satisfy others.
So IMO the first step is that people should accept the fact that he is in first place more a shy person irl. Especially friends and those who are around him. Applied to that video I think its positive when people are around you and distract you a bit with fun talk like the DT stuff when you are nervous about a big upcoming event. But to often all this eye of the tiger and questioning my confidence stuff would annoy me when I would be in his place.
I think this is it. People need to stop piling on unneeded/undesired advice. It's annoying as hell to be in that position, and most people here aren't close enough to him to say anything useful.
He's not the starcraft savior of all white people like half the people here think, and he's not the biggest jerk in the world like the other half thinks. Idra is Idra, let him be.
All I have to say is that two of the best non-korean players I know rate dimaga as a top non-korean zerg and idra just dismantled him with straight up good play. He played an amazing game against strelok that only gets talked about because of his lame remarks, but infact it was an AMAZING game by both. He goes 1/2 against a protoss and could have won.
Aside from anything personally about idra I think , I would say that the last 2 weeks have shown me very very strong play from him. I am getting the feeling that we will be seeing it more and more.
We all play or have played starcraft. We played it because it was fun, and so we played it even more. Idra played it so often, that he got really good, and was offered to be given money to play the game. Play a fun game and make money doing it? Hell yes, that sounds awesome right?
really wrong idea behind this its hard to admit, but probably no matter how often had you played the outcome would be the same its not always amount of time = results you still need to have talent to be good at video games, esp starcraft
Hard work > Talent.
not when u want to be one of the best in the world.
No matter how much effort u put into studying, a 7 year old kid will be able to speak more languages than u, be better than u at all sciences plus math, and do surgery. Also he can lead a team of engineers on a NASA project. (Not kidding)
We all play or have played starcraft. We played it because it was fun, and so we played it even more. Idra played it so often, that he got really good, and was offered to be given money to play the game. Play a fun game and make money doing it? Hell yes, that sounds awesome right?
really wrong idea behind this its hard to admit, but probably no matter how often had you played the outcome would be the same its not always amount of time = results you still need to have talent to be good at video games, esp starcraft
Hard work > Talent.
not when u want to be one of the best in the world.
No matter how much effort u put into studying, a 7 year old kid will be able to speak more languages than u, be better than u at all sciences plus math, and do surgery. Also he can lead a team of engineers on a NASA project. (Not kidding)
On April 01 2009 12:39 AttackZerg wrote: All I have to say is that two of the best non-korean players I know rate dimaga as a top non-korean zerg and idra just dismantled him with straight up good play. He played an amazing game against strelok that only gets talked about because of his lame remarks, but infact it was an AMAZING game by both. He goes 1/2 against a protoss and could have won.
Aside from anything personally about idra I think , I would say that the last 2 weeks have shown me very very strong play from him. I am getting the feeling that we will be seeing it more and more.
This video was awesome.
Thx dan/greg
For sure.
And as Artosis says in the vid, love him or hate him he's all the foreigners got in Korea right now.
We all play or have played starcraft. We played it because it was fun, and so we played it even more. Idra played it so often, that he got really good, and was offered to be given money to play the game. Play a fun game and make money doing it? Hell yes, that sounds awesome right?
really wrong idea behind this its hard to admit, but probably no matter how often had you played the outcome would be the same its not always amount of time = results you still need to have talent to be good at video games, esp starcraft
We all play or have played starcraft. We played it because it was fun, and so we played it even more. Idra played it so often, that he got really good, and was offered to be given money to play the game. Play a fun game and make money doing it? Hell yes, that sounds awesome right?
really wrong idea behind this its hard to admit, but probably no matter how often had you played the outcome would be the same its not always amount of time = results you still need to have talent to be good at video games, esp starcraft
Hard work > Talent.
true however I think a talentless person can only go so far no matter how much work they put in
I definitely think IdrA has allot of talent, and works very hard.
Oh me too, I didn't mean to imply that idra was talentless (if that was how it came off to others)
We all play or have played starcraft. We played it because it was fun, and so we played it even more. Idra played it so often, that he got really good, and was offered to be given money to play the game. Play a fun game and make money doing it? Hell yes, that sounds awesome right?
really wrong idea behind this its hard to admit, but probably no matter how often had you played the outcome would be the same its not always amount of time = results you still need to have talent to be good at video games, esp starcraft
Hard work > Talent.
Hard work = Talent
"For 37 years I've practiced 14 hours a day, and now they call me a genius." -- Pablo de Sarasate
Actually - hang on...
Hard Work - Talent = hopeless Talent - Hard Work = lazy Talent + Hard Work = Epic
Figuring out what your talent is (and what it isn't) and working hard to make the most of them = genius.
On April 04 2009 00:17 Mista wrote: It's funny how just a while ago there were so many anti-IdrA..but now so fast the tides changed.IdrA make us proud gogo !!
Idra is an asshole, but he is all we have, and I WILL root for any fellow American.
We all play or have played starcraft. We played it because it was fun, and so we played it even more. Idra played it so often, that he got really good, and was offered to be given money to play the game. Play a fun game and make money doing it? Hell yes, that sounds awesome right?
really wrong idea behind this its hard to admit, but probably no matter how often had you played the outcome would be the same its not always amount of time = results you still need to have talent to be good at video games, esp starcraft
Hard work > Talent.
Hard work = Talent
"For 37 years I've practiced 14 hours a day, and now they call me a genius." -- Pablo de Sarasate
Actually - hang on...
Hard Work - Talent = hopeless Talent - Hard Work = lazy Talent + Hard Work = Epic
Figuring out what your talent is (and what it isn't) and working hard to make the most of them = genius.
maybe thats how it worked out for Pablo de Sarasate too bad he never became a genius like he claimed
On March 31 2009 17:27 Piste wrote: Any alternative source? I enable scforall unlimited download storage, wait forever, just for a 10second clip
I' m sorry. I have to admit that second time I tried it, it dl'd way more faster. but I'm gona watch it for the second time now becouse I asked for an alternative source.
and thank you artosis. I hope you will provide us more cool vids like this!
On April 04 2009 00:17 Mista wrote: It's funny how just a while ago there were so many anti-IdrA..but now so fast the tides changed.IdrA make us proud gogo !!
I will entirely cheer and watch every game idra plays.
Him as a symbol and professional CJ entus gamer and him as a person are very seperate for me and I don't hold my feelings towards his personality/behavior against him as a symbol/gamer.
Have you watched any of his recent replays? They are entertaining as hell.
Recently he has demolished dinot and dimaga in bo3's, played an amazing game against strelok, played great against a more experienced protoss in gom and humbly accepted his defeat against shuttle. Like I've said 50 times, he is really showing impressive play recently and it makes me excited!
EPT
, and you'll be starting on equal footing with everyone else.
