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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
This was just announced on Fomos. I'll be attending so I thought I'd give anyone a heads up who has the chance to watch it on the OGN Channel (it's most likely to be broadcast.) They're doing a special event during the lull between the end of Winners League and the beginning of Proleague Round 4.
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I was going off of fomos' calendar and there was no Zerg line up hence the lack of it in the OP.
Thanks to infinity21 for the translation!
-올스타 종족 최강전- All Star
18시(용산 상설경기장) 6pm Yongsan (OGN studio.) 16th, 23rd and 30th.
16th - Terran vs Zerg.
23rd - Zerg vs Protoss.
30th - Protoss vs Terran.
▶프로토스vs테란 Protoss vs Terran
*프로토스-김택용, 송병구, 허영무, 도재욱 Protoss - Kim Taekyong (Bisu) Song Byungoo (Stork) Heo Yeongmul (Jangbi) Do Jaewook (BeSt)
*테란-이영호, 신상문, 이윤열, 진영수 Terran - Lee Youngho (Flash) Shin Sangmoon (Leta) Lee Yunyeol (Nada) Jin Yeongsu (Hwasin)
Zergs - Ma Jae-Yoon (SaviOr), Park Sung-Joon (JulyZerg), Park Chan-Soo (Luxury), Park Myung-Soo (Yellow[arnc]).
Original Article: Translation thanks to infinity21
+ Show Spoiler +스타크래프트 세 종족을 대표하는 최고의 선수들이 출전해 종족의 명예를 걸고 한판 승부를 펼친다.
게임채널 온게임넷과 e스포츠 전문 웹진 포모스는 테란, 저그, 프로토스 각 종족별 최강 선수들이 총출동해 자신의 종족의 명예를 걸고 격돌하는 ‘올스타 종족 최강전’을 동시 개최한다.
이번 ‘올스타 종족 최강전’은 위너스 리그 흥행 성공으로 인한 프로리그 상승세 분위기를 4라운드 개막 시점까지 이어가고, 위너스 리그 포스트시즌 진행으로 인한 프로리그 공백기에 목마른 e스포츠 팬들의 경기 관람 욕구를 충족시키기 위해 온게임넷과 포모스가 공동으로 기획했다.
이에 각 프로게임단 코칭스태프 및 관계자, 프로게이머들도 위너스 리그 포스트시즌과 선수단 휴가 및 워크숍 등 바쁜 일정에도 불구하고 위너스 리그에 보내준 팬들의 관심과 성원에 보답하기 위해 전격적으로 출전에 동의하면서 꿈의 매치가 성사됐다.
‘올스타 종족 최강전’은 스타크래프트 각 종족별로 4명씩의 선수가 출전해 테란 대 저그, 저그 대 프로토스, 프로토스 대 테란 등 각 종족간의 대결을 통해 현재 스타크래프트 최강의 종족을 가리게 된다.
가장 먼저 테란은 프로리그 08-09 다승 1위를 달리고 있는 ‘최종병기’ 이영호(KTF)를 필두로 ‘미라클 보이’ 신상문(온게임넷), ‘천재’ 이윤열(위메이드), ‘스나이퍼’ 진영수(STX)가 출전한다.
이어 저그는 ‘본좌’ 마재윤(CJ), ‘투신’ 박성준(STX), ‘찬스박’ 박찬수(KTF), 박명수(온게임넷)가 대표로 나서며, 프로토스는 ‘혁명가’ 김택용, ‘괴수’ 도재욱(이상 SK텔레콤), ‘총사령관’ 송병구, ‘올마이티’ 허영무(이상 삼성전자)가 출전한다.
‘올스타 종족 최강전’은 오는 16일 월요일부터 3주간 매주 월요일 오후 6시 용산 e스포츠 상설경기장에서 열리며 게임채널 온게임넷을 통해 생중계 된다.
16일 열리는 1주차에서 테란과 저그의 경기를 시작으로, 23일 2주차 경기에서는 저그와 프로토스가 격돌하며, 마지막으로 열리는 30일 3주차 경기에서는 프로토스와 테란이 맞대결을 펼칠 예정이다.
모든 경기는 7전 4선승제 승자연전 방식으로 진행되며, 선봉은 주최 측에서 선정하고 승자 선수는 다음 경기 상대를 직접 지명할 수 있다. 경기 맵은 프로리그와 스타리그 맵 가운데 러시아워3를 제외한 총 9개의 맵이 사용되며, 경기 전 각 종족의 선봉으로 출전 예고된 선수들이 하나씩 제거하고 남은 7개의 맵에서 치러진다.
또한, 출전 선수 12명은 회당 기본상금 20만원과 함께 1킬을 기록할 때마다 20만원씩이 추가로 지급되며 올킬을 달성할 경우 20만원이 더 추가돼 100만원의 상금을 받게 된다.
‘올스타 종족 최강전’ 연출을 담당한 온게임넷 김진환 PD는 “먼저 바쁜 일정 가운데에서도 출전에 협조해 준 프로게이머들과 관계자들에게 감사의 말씀을 전한다”고 말한 뒤 “프로리그 경기가 줄어든 공백기간 동안 ’올스타 종족 최강전’을 통해 e스포츠 팬들의 경기 관람 욕구를 충족시키고, 팬들과 선수가 하나 되어 즐길 수 있는 흥겨운 축제의 장이 되도록 최선을 다할 것”이라고 밝혔다.
The top players representing the three races will battle it out for the pride of their respective races.
Game channel OGN and e-sports specialist website Fomos will host the “All-Star Race Battle’ which will involve the top players from Terran, Zerg, and Protoss smashing heads with their pride on the line.
This ‘All-Star Race Battle’ is taking place to carry on the upbeat atmosphere from the recent success of Winners League to the 4th round, and to relieve the thirst for games of e-sports fans during the downtime during post season.
And so, each pro team’s coaching staff, related personnel, and pro gamers have shown strong interest in this idea despite their full calendar with vacations and workshops, allowing for this dream match to become reality.
‘All-Star Race Battle’ will determine the best race in Starcraft with games between 4 players from each race with Terran vs Zerg, Zerg vs Protoss, and Protoss vs Terran.
For Terrans, there is ‘Ultimate Weapon’ Lee Young-Ho (Flash), ‘Miracle Boy’ Shin Sang-Moon (Leta), ‘Genius’ Lee Yoon-Yeol (NaDa), and ‘Sniper’ Jin Young-Soo (Hwasin) will play.
The Zergs will have ‘BonJwa’ Ma Jae-Yoon (SaviOr), ‘God of War’ Park Sung-Joon (JulyZerg), ‘Chance Park’ Park Chan-Soo (Luxury), and Park Myung-Soo (Yellow[arnc]). For Protoss, ‘Revolutionist’ Kim Taek-Yong (Bisu), ‘Monster’ Do Jae-Wook (Best), ‘Commander’ Song Byung-Goo (Stork), and ‘All-Mighty’ Huh Young-Moo (JangBi) will play.
‘All-Star Race Battle’ will air starting this Monday the 16th for 3 weeks every Monday at 6 pm at the Yong-San e-Sports Stadium and will be broadcasted through OnGameNet.
On the 16th, the game will start between Terran and Zerg, the 23rd will follow with Zerg against Protoss, and the last match on the 30th will be Protoss versus Terran.
All games are best of 7, first to win 4, winner goes on format. The starting players will be determined by the hosts, and the winner can designate their next opponent. The maps will be from 9 maps from Pro League and Star League excluding Rush Hour 3. 2 additional maps will be removed by the starting players from both sides picking a map each.
Additionally, the 12 players will be given 200,000 Won for each appearance with an additional 200,000 Won for every win. In the event of an all-kill, there is an additional 200,000 Won for a total of 1,000,000 Won in prizes.
‘All-Star Race Battle’s producer Kim Jin-Hwan PD from OngameNet said, “I’d like to thank the pro gamers for being co-operative amidst their busy schedules. We will do our best to satisfy e-sports fans during this downtime through our ‘All-Star Race Battle’ and to make sure they enjoy this event with the pro gamers”.
![[image loading]](/userpoll/draw.php?poll_id=5325)
Poll: Who Will Triumph?
(Vote): Protoss
(Vote): Terran
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Wow epic lineups. EPIC TvPs incoming!!!
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Damn, this should be good.
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Protoss EZ
With Jangbi, Stork, and Bisu playing PvT it will be a fucking massacre. The 4 best Protoss players right now > Flash + some scrubs + aging Nada (although his recent series vs Jangbi was great, it wasn't a win, and Jangbi wasn't playing 100% as far as I could tell).
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Ok, seriously. How are the Terrans supposed to win this?
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ooh. oooooooh. This makes me all warm and fuzzy inside =)
Bisu will lead the dragons to victory!
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I have to agree with fanatacist. The Protoss line-up here is much stronger for TvP than the terran one. But, you know, the NaDa who showed up against JangBi in MSL could show up again. You never know.
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damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
how are they doing it?
is it a bunch of bo1's? and does everyone play each other, or are the matches pre-determined?
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
Actually this is a event between all 3 races. I'll translate the article. Gimme like 30 mins
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Even though I want Terran to win I doubt it'll happen, mainly cause out of the Terrans the only one that could really TvP worth a damn is Flash, Leta fails, Hwaisin fails, NaDa played well against Jangbi but is a tossup. The protosses all have over 60% winrate against Terrans -_-. Once again Flash is the only hope lol... This will be interesting though, whats the format? Do they all play each other or is it like Bisu vs. Flash, Leta vs. Stork... etc? Will it be just 1 game or a BoX?
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flash allkill ez.
when is this?
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Artosis
United States2140 Posts
2bad this doesnt count for anything. if it did nada would probably kill them all himself.
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On March 13 2009 12:07 Azrael1111 wrote:
wait this is tonight?
No, looks like it's planned for 3 weeks or so from now, after WL is over, but before the next round of Proleague starts.
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On March 13 2009 12:05 fanatacist wrote:
Protoss EZ
With Jangbi, Stork, and Bisu playing PvT it will be a fucking massacre. The 4 best Protoss players right now > Flash + some scrubs + aging Nada (although his recent series vs Jangbi was great, it wasn't a win, and Jangbi wasn't playing 100% as far as I could tell).
Sadly, I agree with this whole thing.
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Why put Hwaisin? Hell if HiyA played Terran might have a chance, that guy is a beast vs. Protoss and took out Jangbi AND Stork recently.
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I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for this
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They should've brought Hiya instead of Hwasin. Go Terrans though!
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Edit: I was afraid the zergs wasn't invited 
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On March 13 2009 12:10 infinity21 wrote:
Actually this is a event between all 3 races. I'll translate the article. Gimme like 30 mins
Oh good, I was going to say, "Did the zergs just not make the cut this year?"
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Baa?21243 Posts
There is, it's actually a 3 week event with all 3 races.
Week 1 is ZvT, week 2 is ZvP, and week 3 is TvP
Zerg lineup is Savior, July, Luxury, and Yarnc.
The format is Bo7, victor picks his next opponent.
EDIT: Damn ninjas.
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I'm really excited to watch this. I'm hoping for a Terran upset, although it's probably gonna be a one sided massacre... 
EDIT: No Jaedong in Zerg lineup?
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CA10828 Posts
savior, july, luxury, and yarnc are representing zerg
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Surprised Jaedong isn't in it, both both twins being there should make it hilarious.
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Oh nvm just saw that there'll be all mu's awesome!
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Seriously thats disappointing, where is Jaedong? They brought the best of the other 2 races but left out the Zerg destroyer? P>T>Z IMHO.
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Baa?21243 Posts
July can All-Kill Protoss on his own, don't worry.
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jangbi is going to MAUL the terran team
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On March 13 2009 12:12 Lockon Stratos wrote:
Why put Hwaisin? Hell if HiyA played Terran might have a chance, that guy is a beast vs. Protoss and took out Jangbi AND Stork recently.
Yeah, HiyA has quietly killed all six dragons except Bisu.
Also, what, no Jaedong? Is Lecaf going on vacation or what? Downright disappointing, he seems to have picked up his ZvT again.
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I wish Hiya was in there, this is still very exciting. I think a well rested flash is going to tear it up, should be fun.
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whaaaaat no hiya, that guy is like 70% TvP
and what's up with this racism vs. zergs...
edit: nvm
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CA10828 Posts
^ yup your translation is correct
omg nada vs savior
OMG
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United States1865 Posts
Are they deliberately excluding Hwaseung/Lecaf players?
Both HiyA and Jaedong easily belong on their respective races teams.
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CA10828 Posts
On March 13 2009 12:28 Atrioc wrote:
Are they deliberately excluding Hwaseung/Lecaf players?
Both HiyA and Jaedong easily belong on their respective races teams.
maybe the team declined due to team vacation or something
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On March 13 2009 12:26 Origami wrote:
Zerg vs Terran on March 16th
Game 1: Nada vs Savior
Oh. My. God.
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On March 13 2009 12:16 Onisparda wrote:
Why is there no zergs team....
edit:stupid post delete
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Baa?21243 Posts
Apparently they get 200000 Korean Won for each Kill they get, and if they AK, they get an additional 200000 Won.
Which translates to 130 bucks for each kill, and like 600 for AKing xD
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IMO the zerg lineup should be something like
jaedong, luxury, by.hero, savior
with by.hero there bisu is just ez
ps. PvT should be brutal
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God this should be so much fun to watch. The only possible complaint I can even think of is that I wish they played on a different day of the week (playing the day after WL playoff days leaves like 4 days in a row of nothinggggg).
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
The top players representing the three races will battle it out for the pride of their respective races.
Game channel OGN and e-sports specialist website Fomos will host the “All-Star Race Battle’ which will involve the top players from Terran, Zerg, and Protoss smashing heads with their pride on the line.
This ‘All-Star Race Battle’ is taking place to carry on the upbeat atmosphere from the recent success of Winners League to the 4th round, and to relieve the thirst for games of e-sports fans during the downtime during post season.
And so, each pro team’s coaching staff, related personnel, and pro gamers have shown strong interest in this idea despite their full calendar with vacations and workshops, allowing for this dream match to become reality.
‘All-Star Race Battle’ will determine the best race in Starcraft with games between 4 players from each race with Terran vs Zerg, Zerg vs Protoss, and Protoss vs Terran.
For Terrans, there is ‘Ultimate Weapon’ Lee Young-Ho (Flash), ‘Miracle Boy’ Shin Sang-Moon (Leta), ‘Genius’ Lee Yoon-Yeol (NaDa), and ‘Sniper’ Jin Young-Soo (Hwasin) will play.
The Zergs will have ‘BonJwa’ Ma Jae-Yoon (SaviOr), ‘God of War’ Park Sung-Joon (JulyZerg), ‘Chance Park’ Park Chan-Soo (Luxury), and Park Myung-Soo (Yellow[arnc]). For Protoss, ‘Revolutionist’ Kim Taek-Yong (Bisu), ‘Monster’ Do Jae-Wook (Best), ‘Commander’ Song Byung-Goo (Stork), and ‘All-Mighty’ Huh Young-Moo (JangBi) will play.
‘All-Star Race Battle’ will air starting this Monday the 16th for 3 weeks every Monday at 6 pm at the Yong-San e-Sports Stadium and will be broadcasted through OnGameNet.
On the 16th, the game will start between Terran and Zerg, the 23th will follow with Zerg against Protoss, and the last match on the 30th will be Protoss versus Terran.
All games are best of 7, first to win 4, winner goes on format. The starting players will be determined by the hosts, and the winner can designate their next opponent. The maps will be from 9 maps from Pro League and Star League excluding Rush Hour 3. 2 additional maps will be removed by the starting players from both sides picking a map each.
Additionally, the 12 players will be given 200,000 Won for each appearance with an additional 200,000 Won for every win. In the event of an all-kill, there is an additional 200,000 Won for a total of 1,000,000 Won in prizes.
‘All-Star Race Battle’s producer Kim Jin-Hwan PD from OngameNet said, “I’d like to thank the pro gamers for being co-operative amidst their busy schedules. We will do our best to satisfy e-sports fans during this downtime through our ‘All-Star Race Battle’ and to make sure they enjoy this event with the pro gamers”.
edit: got the zerg twins' names mixed up again >_>
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On March 13 2009 12:35 infinity21 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +The top players representing the three races will battle it out for the pride of their respective races.
Game channel OGN and e-sports specialist website Fomos will host the “All-Star Race Battle’ which will involve the top players from Terran, Zerg, and Protoss smashing heads with their pride on the line.
This ‘All-Star Race Battle’ is taking place to carry on the upbeat atmosphere from the recent success of Winners League to the 4th round, and to relieve the thirst for games of e-sports fans during the downtime during post season.
And so, each pro team’s coaching staff, related personnel, and pro gamers have shown strong interest in this idea despite their full calendar with vacations and workshops, allowing for this dream match to become reality.
‘All-Star Race Battle’ will determine the best race in Starcraft with games between 4 players from each race with Terran vs Zerg, Zerg vs Protoss, and Protoss vs Terran.
For Terrans, there is ‘Ultimate Weapon’ Lee Young-Ho (Flash), ‘Miracle Boy’ Shin Sang-Moon (Leta), ‘Genius’ Lee Yoon-Yeol (NaDa), and ‘Sniper’ Jin Young-Soo (Hwasin) will play.
The Zergs will have ‘BonJwa’ Ma Jae-Yoon (SaviOr), ‘God of War’ Park Sung-Joon (JulyZerg), ‘Chance Park’ Park Chan-Soo (Yellow[arnc]), and Park Myung-Soo (Luxury). For Protoss, ‘Revolutionist’ Kim Taek-Yong (Bisu), ‘Monster’ Do Jae-Wook (Best), ‘Commander’ Song Byung-Goo (Stork), and ‘All-Mighty’ Huh Young-Moo (JangBi) will play.
‘All-Star Race Battle’ will air starting this Monday the 16th for 3 weeks every Monday at 6 pm at the Yong-San e-Sports Stadium and will be broadcasted through OnGameNet.
On the 16th, the game will start between Terran and Zerg, the 23th will follow with Zerg against Protoss, and the last match on the 30th will be Protoss versus Terran.
All games are best of 7, first to win 4, winner goes on format. The starting players will be determined by the hosts, and the winner can designate their next opponent. The maps will be from 9 maps from Pro League and Star League excluding Rush Hour 3. 2 additional maps will be removed by the starting players from both sides picking a map each.
Additionally, the 12 players will be given 200,000 Won for each appearance with an additional 200,000 Won for every win. In the event of an all-kill, there is an additional 200,000 Won for a total of 1,000,000 Won in prizes.
‘All-Star Race Battle’s producer Kim Jin-Hwan PD from OngameNet said, “I’d like to thank the pro gamers for being co-operative amidst their busy schedules. We will do our best to satisfy e-sports fans during this downtime through our ‘All-Star Race Battle’ and to make sure they enjoy this event with the pro gamers”.
Wow i'm really happy about this. OGN trying to increase ratings? Idk.
Kinda surprised zerg lineup does not include jaedong
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No Jaedong? Protoss is going to win this ez.
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Baa?21243 Posts
On March 13 2009 12:39 Sentenal wrote:
No Jaedong? Protoss is going to win this ez.
Not while JulyFat lives and eats.
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On March 13 2009 12:39 Sentenal wrote:
No Jaedong? Protoss is going to win this ez.
Are you joking? July is going to wreck them.
Nice translation Infinity, can't wait for this. Also nice to see that RH3 won't be used and (hopefully?) we wont have to see Medusa for the PvT match.
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On March 13 2009 12:39 Sentenal wrote:
No Jaedong? Protoss is going to win this ez.
It would be no competition even with Jaedong. Not that i'm saying that Jaedong is not capable of beating any of the Protoss players but I don't think Jaedong could handle 4 dragons and the rest of the Zerg players are not very good anymore (except lux).
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Baa?21243 Posts
I love how everyone seems to overlook the fact that JULY, arguably the best ZvP ever, is on the team.
No love...
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 NaDa vs  sAviOr oh plz be epic show of bonjwaness (if thats even a word)
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meh. The Terrans needed RH3!
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definitely going to watch this. though i think that p>z>t here.
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United States4126 Posts
Someone better find out why JD isn't in the Zerg line-up
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
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On March 13 2009 12:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I love how everyone seems to overlook the fact that JULY, arguably the best ZvP ever, is on the team.
No love...
I lament posting my previous post
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I am surprised that their is no Jaedong in the Zerg team.
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The Emperor of Terran should be there since he's the true leader. Sucks!
Should be see some awesome games though. I'm surprised Jaedong isn't invited, or he was and declined.
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You guys mean the same July who didn't make it out of groups with Bisu and Stork?
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China3334 Posts
So it's KOF format plus winners could choose the next opponent? Awesome!
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Oh that's right, July went 2-1 against Stork and lost once to Bisu on Medusa. Clearly he has no chance.
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omg, the greatest race super fight again.
most likely Protoss again. -_-
Leta, Nada and Hwasin are so screwed, they better take couple night classes from Flash. Advanced TvP 400 level.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
God, I expect protoss to massacre everything in sight. There's a good chance that whoever gets sent out from the protoss race might just sit down and never get back up. I don't see the terrans standing any chance versus 4 ridiculous PvTers. Zergs might have a slight better chance, but Bisu can literally just wipe out all 4 zergs alone.
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51449 Posts
Coolest thing since Superfight 4 (?)
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sAviOr is the most dominant Superfight champion of all time. I expect this to continue.
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Terran definitely have a better shot than people are making this out to be. At first I was like "Oh shit Protoss easy win" but, if Terran can take out Medusa before the match? I mean, it's Flash, who is sick. Leta, who can pull out a win... Hwasin who beat BeSt... NaDa who's NaDa.
I mean. Ok. We're probably going to lose. But at least we'll beat Zerg! lol.
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Baa?21243 Posts
Lies, Zerg will rape this shit up!
For the Swarm!
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51449 Posts
lolwhat? no jaedong for zerg?
gg them
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Why no Jaedong? o_0 Weird...
Hopefully the Terran team win both their matchups. The Zerg team should be an easy win; three pretty much S-class TvZ:ers and Nada. Protoss could be tough, but Flash could pull of an all kill on a good day, Leta has beaten 5 of the 6 dragons and Nada played great against Jangbi recently. Hiya would've been better than Hwasin.
My prediction (made mostly with my heart, not my brain):
TvZ 4-1
ZvP 4-2
TvP 4-3
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pretty sure each race will take one series, P>T, T>Z, Z>P.
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Hiya instead of Hwasin...ok really? Hwasin is great at all match ups, his TvP record is skewed because hes lost like 15 times to just Bisu, otherwise hes a strong all around player. I mean guys if youre gonna play the stats game, analyze what you're citing first instead of posting some tlpd nonsense, and really Nada doesnt know how TvP? He basically invented modern TvP and was arguably the more impressive player in his set vs Jangbi, the best PvTer.
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On March 13 2009 13:28 iPF[Div] wrote:
pretty sure each race will take one series, P>T, T>Z, Z>P.
i think protoss is gonna take every series =[ but hopefully im wrong
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On March 13 2009 13:30 mog87 wrote:
Hiya instead of Hwasin...ok really? Hwasin is great at all match ups, his TvP record is skewed because hes lost like 15 times to just Bisu, otherwise hes a strong all around player. I mean guys if youre gonna play the stats game, analyze what you're citing first instead of posting some tlpd nonsense, and really Nada doesnt know how TvP? He basically invented modern TvP and was arguably the more impressive player in his set vs Jangbi, the best PvTer.
I'm pretty sure most people want HiyA for his TvP over Hwasin's, have you seen both their TvPs recently? Obviously, Hwasin has a better TvZ, but tons of terrans have good TvZs and Flash and Leta have got that covered.
The TLPD was about July's ZvP so I have no idea what you're talking about. Honestly, HiyA has taken down Jangbi/Stork/Kal and Free and straight up games. And has embarassed most other protosses (except his epic fail in the OSL) recently. Hwasin looked good for awhile, but now (I'm talking about his TvP) he's been pretty unsuccessful recently.
Come on, NaDa obvious knows how to TvP, but he is going up against Jangbi/Stork/Bisu. He has a chance, but a slim one. Jangbi's PvT hasn't been his usual rape mode recently though.
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I think the reason HiyA isn't in the Terran roster is because he isn't what you'd consider an "All Star", which is what I assume OGN wanted when they recruited the teams. More popular players = more hype = more viewers.
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I'm not gonna miss this looks so amazing !! Bisu allkill!!
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We aint need no JD cuz JZ in da house, Bisu is really the only toss that can beat him on their team and he has less than a 50/50 shot if its on a balanced map.
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This is not fair for the zerg if they don't have Jaedong...
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Zergs without Jaedong are just meh. I don't forsee zergs taking one at all, maybe sliding past the terrans maybe. Woulda been much more awesome with Jaedong though. =(
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if savior and july play well, together they could take protoss themselves imho.
P.S. Savior, July, and Luxury have the highest zvp peak ELO's out of active players, so it's really not all that impossible.
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although my favorite race is Protoss
i would love to see Mabonjwa, July and the zerg twins kick ass!
Zerg Fighting!
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zerg is screwed w/o jaedong =/
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I'm pretty excited about savior v nada. Also no jaedong was the first thing I noticed....
Interesting to see the intersection between the players selected and the March Power Rank.
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On March 13 2009 13:38 Kinky wrote:
I think the reason HiyA isn't in the Terran roster is because he isn't what you'd consider an "All Star", which is what I assume OGN wanted when they recruited the teams. More popular players = more hype = more viewers.
I was about to make the same comment, so...I agree.
I too think the "standard" results will prevail here...T>Z, Z>P, P>T.
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Take heart Zerg fans! Zergs aren't that bad without Jaedong IMO. He's the best zerg of course... but they have a great shot against Terran and Protoss regardless.
Yarnc and Lux are Terran killers (Yarnc is especially consistent), July has taken some games off good terrans recently and imo he's 50/50 agains't Nada or Hwasin, and Savior is Savior. He's been playing well and could take a game off anyone in the lineup, Flash included. Especially because it's just a show match.
And Z>P. Duh easy rofl. If the Zergs snipe Bisu it's easy game... and anyone of them could do it. Not to mention it's JULYZERG.
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On March 13 2009 12:05 fanatacist wrote:
Protoss EZ
With Jangbi, Stork, and Bisu playing PvT it will be a fucking massacre. The 4 best Protoss players right now > Flash + some scrubs + aging Nada (although his recent series vs Jangbi was great, it wasn't a win, and Jangbi wasn't playing 100% as far as I could tell).
How was he not "playing 100%"? That doesn't make any sense. It's a semi final that was extremely close. He was obviously playing the very best he could.
If you mean jangbi was nervous and not able to preform I don't by it. He had to be confident against nada going into game 1, I mean he has a freaking 70% win rate vs terran. Besides he had been in several semi finals before.
If nada prepares for this I expect him to do very well. And I expect him to prepare because this is the type of event nada is all about. For the fans.
Really weird to not see jaedong. I guess Lecaf (Hwaseung or whatever) couldnt work out a business deal with OGN to get him in the event. This has to be it, no way they would not include jaedong based on popularity or accomplishments. And I can't imagine any player not wanting to play in something like this.
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You guys are putting way to much faith in protoss to take this. While I would enjoy a Terran Victory, the 4 zergs they brought right now are all on fire. July's PvZ is still god of war. One close loss to a hot Bisu is the only thing that made it stumble. Luxury is also on top of things.
Best and Stork are always questionable. Bisu and Jangbi are going to hope July doesn't taste the blood of one of them. July in a BoX vs a protoss is quite possibly the biggest rape ever produced.
TvZ is a tossup because it all depends on whether nada or savior wins to pick up steam.
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On March 13 2009 12:47 brjdrb wrote:
definitely going to watch this. though i think that p>z>t here.
wtf
u mean p>t>z check the players only jangbi and bisu really dominate pvz. Where as they all dominate pvt, just saying dude
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Wow Savior vs Nada, thats great. No Jaedong sadly but i have faith in July and Savior, gogo.
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On March 13 2009 15:13 qkdrkqkdrk wrote:
fomos news: forgg to KTF
no wai!
Edit: yes wai... T_T
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Jaedong AND HiyA not in? Both on Oz? Probably not a coincidence. I bet Oz has got a vacation or couldn't get a deal in with the network, or something else interfering. Rather disappointing but oh well.
Nada vs Savior...I've got chills. Gonna be epic. Always love to see these two players clash.
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whoa, this event looks SO cool
Glad BeSt is in the mix ^^ but what about Jaedong? The Zergs will be crushed without him!
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No Jaedong is going to suck for zerg. Protoss is going to own everyone.
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Wow, this is some epic shit. Looking forward to it! Why is JD being left out? Makes no sense, to me at least.
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No Jaedong? Pretty odd if you ask me o_O?
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The no Jaedong thing has to be due to team circumstances. Though I laughed a bit when people proposed Hiya amongst the terrans. Good record in winners league and pro league is not enough to be considered one of the best imo. If you go by that logic you could just aswell remove Stork for Free and July for Hyvaa. I hope you all see how that would be kinda wierd seing what they have accomplished recently and in the past in the starleagues.
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Even without Jaedong the zerg lineup looks good to take this . Just Savior needs to bring his S - game for this event that is all . Between the twins's ZvT and July's and Savior's godliness this should be a walk in the park for the zergs  .
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Oh wow, this is going to be awesome :D Nice to have some starcraft still during this one month lull.
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On March 13 2009 15:13 qkdrkqkdrk wrote:
fomos news: forgg to KTF
oh wow
sounds like good news to me, KTF really needs a decent T to support Flash... and Ive lately felt like Oz didnt really need ForGG anymore with Hiya playing that good and maybe lomo kinda comin back
Hopefully Oz will get themselves a decent Protoss..
Anyways back to topic
kinda funny how all the Protoss are "PvT-Tosses" and no PvZ-Tosses aka free and kal
I mean bisu is just pretty much excellent at everything but PvZ has been the only matchup that he hasnt completely pwned lately ^^
So Zerg should have a good chance of taking this
but I have to agree that it doesnt look good at all for Terran versus P
Seeing how they put up nada vs savior they might just put up Bisu vs Hwasin for old times sake
and that would already be an autowin for P so.. (unless Bisu tries to humiliate Hwasin with like a 4 probe rush ^^)
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On March 13 2009 17:08 StarBrift wrote:
The no Jaedong thing has to be due to team circumstances. Though I laughed a bit when people proposed Hiya amongst the terrans. Good record in winners league and pro league is not enough to be considered one of the best imo. If you go by that logic you could just aswell remove Stork for Free and July for Hyvaa. I hope you all see how that would be kinda wierd seing what they have accomplished recently and in the past in the starleagues.
You must be a retard if you laugh at Hiya. He really should be in there to pwn protoss. His TvP is S-class, without a doubt. 68% wins and he has beaten all six ''dragons'' as well as Much (who has ridiculous PvT). Look at his last 10: 9 wins and 5 of those were against ''dragons''.
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As always Flash is the last and ultimate weapon!
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The protoss line up is too strong for them to lose
They're good in all match ups, especially Stork and Jangbi's PvT that I think Flash won't be able to allkill and without Jaedong the zerg line up will struggle too even with the best ZvPer July
I just look forward to some great games, these showmatches are always entertaining
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Why no Jaedong ? o,o
Anyway i don't really know who i want to win.
I'm a protoss player, i love Bisu but i don't really like Stork / Jangbi / Best.
I like Nada but i'm not a fan of the others terrans...
Zergs are definitly the vilains ( too bad there is no JD ). Seriously July, Lux, Savior, Yarnc they have all the killer look + cold face.
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On March 13 2009 21:59 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 17:08 StarBrift wrote:
The no Jaedong thing has to be due to team circumstances. Though I laughed a bit when people proposed Hiya amongst the terrans. Good record in winners league and pro league is not enough to be considered one of the best imo. If you go by that logic you could just aswell remove Stork for Free and July for Hyvaa. I hope you all see how that would be kinda wierd seing what they have accomplished recently and in the past in the starleagues. You must be a retard if you laugh at Hiya. He really should be in there to pwn protoss. His TvP is S-class, without a doubt. 68% wins and he has beaten all six ''dragons'' as well as Much (who has ridiculous PvT). Look at his last 10: 9 wins and 5 of those were against ''dragons''.
Hes not really "laughing at hiya".. ^^
And I really like his comparison to hyvaa
he just doesnt belong to an "all star" group
he might currently belong the best skillwise but hes just not as accomplished as much as any of the other Terrans, he should at least have gotten anywhere in Starleagues to be on an all star team.
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wow.. .wtf epic lineup :D
what is the format of that ??
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On March 13 2009 23:18 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 21:59 Holgerius wrote:On March 13 2009 17:08 StarBrift wrote:
The no Jaedong thing has to be due to team circumstances. Though I laughed a bit when people proposed Hiya amongst the terrans. Good record in winners league and pro league is not enough to be considered one of the best imo. If you go by that logic you could just aswell remove Stork for Free and July for Hyvaa. I hope you all see how that would be kinda wierd seing what they have accomplished recently and in the past in the starleagues. You must be a retard if you laugh at Hiya. He really should be in there to pwn protoss. His TvP is S-class, without a doubt. 68% wins and he has beaten all six ''dragons'' as well as Much (who has ridiculous PvT). Look at his last 10: 9 wins and 5 of those were against ''dragons''. Hes not really "laughing at hiya".. ^^ And I really like his comparison to hyvaa he just doesnt belong to an "all star" group he might currently belong the best skillwise but hes just not as accomplished as much as any of the other Terrans, he should at least have gotten anywhere in Starleagues to be on an all star team.
Well, how much has fake Yellow accomplished in Starleagues? He's in the Zerg all star team. I can see the point about Hiya not having All Star-status, but if Terran want to win both matchups, Hiya would've been great with his S-class TvP. Leta and Flash alone can cope with the Zerg lineup.
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On March 13 2009 23:34 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 23:18 7mk wrote:On March 13 2009 21:59 Holgerius wrote:On March 13 2009 17:08 StarBrift wrote:
The no Jaedong thing has to be due to team circumstances. Though I laughed a bit when people proposed Hiya amongst the terrans. Good record in winners league and pro league is not enough to be considered one of the best imo. If you go by that logic you could just aswell remove Stork for Free and July for Hyvaa. I hope you all see how that would be kinda wierd seing what they have accomplished recently and in the past in the starleagues. You must be a retard if you laugh at Hiya. He really should be in there to pwn protoss. His TvP is S-class, without a doubt. 68% wins and he has beaten all six ''dragons'' as well as Much (who has ridiculous PvT). Look at his last 10: 9 wins and 5 of those were against ''dragons''. Hes not really "laughing at hiya".. ^^ And I really like his comparison to hyvaa he just doesnt belong to an "all star" group he might currently belong the best skillwise but hes just not as accomplished as much as any of the other Terrans, he should at least have gotten anywhere in Starleagues to be on an all star team. Well, how much has fake Yellow accomplished in Starleagues? He's in the Zerg all star team. I can see the point about Hiya not having All Star-status, but if Terran want to win both matchups, Hiya would've been great with his S-class TvP. Leta and Flash alone can cope with the Zerg lineup.
Not very much but he has been a strong player for a lot longer and at least he was in both starleagues a short while ago, also in Zerg's case there is no alternative (except obviously Jaedong) because all other Zerg who are currently strong are all pretty much newcomers (unless you wanna see ggplay... which i kinda doubt)
"but if Terran want to win both matchups" - you might be right but whoever decided who would be in which team surely didnt do it with the main goal "Terran will be the strongest race and will win"...
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On March 13 2009 23:43 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 23:34 Holgerius wrote:On March 13 2009 23:18 7mk wrote:On March 13 2009 21:59 Holgerius wrote:On March 13 2009 17:08 StarBrift wrote:
The no Jaedong thing has to be due to team circumstances. Though I laughed a bit when people proposed Hiya amongst the terrans. Good record in winners league and pro league is not enough to be considered one of the best imo. If you go by that logic you could just aswell remove Stork for Free and July for Hyvaa. I hope you all see how that would be kinda wierd seing what they have accomplished recently and in the past in the starleagues. You must be a retard if you laugh at Hiya. He really should be in there to pwn protoss. His TvP is S-class, without a doubt. 68% wins and he has beaten all six ''dragons'' as well as Much (who has ridiculous PvT). Look at his last 10: 9 wins and 5 of those were against ''dragons''. Hes not really "laughing at hiya".. ^^ And I really like his comparison to hyvaa he just doesnt belong to an "all star" group he might currently belong the best skillwise but hes just not as accomplished as much as any of the other Terrans, he should at least have gotten anywhere in Starleagues to be on an all star team. Well, how much has fake Yellow accomplished in Starleagues? He's in the Zerg all star team. I can see the point about Hiya not having All Star-status, but if Terran want to win both matchups, Hiya would've been great with his S-class TvP. Leta and Flash alone can cope with the Zerg lineup. Not very much but he has been a strong player for a lot longer and at least he was in both starleagues a short while ago, also in Zerg's case there is no alternative (except obviously Jaedong) because all other Zerg who are currently strong are all pretty much newcomers (unless you wanna see ggplay... which i kinda doubt) "but if Terran want to win both matchups" - you might be right but whoever decided who would be in which team surely didnt do it with the main goal "Terran will be the strongest race and will win"...
Excuse me, but fake yellow is one of the three players who got two all kills. Im pretty sure this is something.
Also, Jaedong was probably left out because otherwise zerg would be imba.
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On March 13 2009 23:34 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 23:18 7mk wrote:On March 13 2009 21:59 Holgerius wrote:On March 13 2009 17:08 StarBrift wrote:
The no Jaedong thing has to be due to team circumstances. Though I laughed a bit when people proposed Hiya amongst the terrans. Good record in winners league and pro league is not enough to be considered one of the best imo. If you go by that logic you could just aswell remove Stork for Free and July for Hyvaa. I hope you all see how that would be kinda wierd seing what they have accomplished recently and in the past in the starleagues. You must be a retard if you laugh at Hiya. He really should be in there to pwn protoss. His TvP is S-class, without a doubt. 68% wins and he has beaten all six ''dragons'' as well as Much (who has ridiculous PvT). Look at his last 10: 9 wins and 5 of those were against ''dragons''. Hes not really "laughing at hiya".. ^^ And I really like his comparison to hyvaa he just doesnt belong to an "all star" group he might currently belong the best skillwise but hes just not as accomplished as much as any of the other Terrans, he should at least have gotten anywhere in Starleagues to be on an all star team. Well, how much has fake Yellow accomplished in Starleagues? He's in the Zerg all star team. I can see the point about Hiya not having All Star-status, but if Terran want to win both matchups, Hiya would've been great with his S-class TvP. Leta and Flash alone can cope with the Zerg lineup.
yarnc has been a starleague regular for years and has made it out of groups multiple times
hiya hasnt made it passed dual league yet.
hiyas good but unproven. he has impressive wins but they come off an aggressive, slightly unusual style in bo1's. he will be significantly less effective as he gets more exposure. he doesnt belong with the other players in the event.
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On March 13 2009 23:54 JohnBall wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 23:43 7mk wrote:On March 13 2009 23:34 Holgerius wrote:On March 13 2009 23:18 7mk wrote:On March 13 2009 21:59 Holgerius wrote:On March 13 2009 17:08 StarBrift wrote:
The no Jaedong thing has to be due to team circumstances. Though I laughed a bit when people proposed Hiya amongst the terrans. Good record in winners league and pro league is not enough to be considered one of the best imo. If you go by that logic you could just aswell remove Stork for Free and July for Hyvaa. I hope you all see how that would be kinda wierd seing what they have accomplished recently and in the past in the starleagues. You must be a retard if you laugh at Hiya. He really should be in there to pwn protoss. His TvP is S-class, without a doubt. 68% wins and he has beaten all six ''dragons'' as well as Much (who has ridiculous PvT). Look at his last 10: 9 wins and 5 of those were against ''dragons''. Hes not really "laughing at hiya".. ^^ And I really like his comparison to hyvaa he just doesnt belong to an "all star" group he might currently belong the best skillwise but hes just not as accomplished as much as any of the other Terrans, he should at least have gotten anywhere in Starleagues to be on an all star team. Well, how much has fake Yellow accomplished in Starleagues? He's in the Zerg all star team. I can see the point about Hiya not having All Star-status, but if Terran want to win both matchups, Hiya would've been great with his S-class TvP. Leta and Flash alone can cope with the Zerg lineup. Not very much but he has been a strong player for a lot longer and at least he was in both starleagues a short while ago, also in Zerg's case there is no alternative (except obviously Jaedong) because all other Zerg who are currently strong are all pretty much newcomers (unless you wanna see ggplay... which i kinda doubt) "but if Terran want to win both matchups" - you might be right but whoever decided who would be in which team surely didnt do it with the main goal "Terran will be the strongest race and will win"... Excuse me, but fake yellow is one of the three players who got two all kills. Im pretty sure this is something. Also, Jaedong was probably left out because otherwise zerg would be imba.
We were talking about Starleagues, the individual tournaments. Hiya all killed as well in WL. He also got three kills on three other occasions.
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This reminds me of the Superfight. No one expected P to win and the did. So im going for Z on this one.
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On March 13 2009 23:43 7mk wrote:
"but if Terran want to win both matchups" - you might be right but whoever decided who would be in which team surely didnt do it with the main goal "Terran will be the strongest race and will win"...
Yeah, they went with "Protoss will be the strongest race and will win".
Obviously in Race Battle the people who decided the teams *should* try to make the teams like that - so they have the best chance against the other two races.
But it's no grudge match or something, it's just a special event which goal is to attrack as many viewers as possible. And in that regard Hwasin >>> Hiya (not even speaking about Nada).
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The lack of JD really really really hurts this
ZvP is essentially July v P now.
It SHOULD be JD instead of Yarnc (assuming they strive to have 4 players per team).
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On March 14 2009 00:05 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2009 23:34 Holgerius wrote:On March 13 2009 23:18 7mk wrote:On March 13 2009 21:59 Holgerius wrote:On March 13 2009 17:08 StarBrift wrote:
The no Jaedong thing has to be due to team circumstances. Though I laughed a bit when people proposed Hiya amongst the terrans. Good record in winners league and pro league is not enough to be considered one of the best imo. If you go by that logic you could just aswell remove Stork for Free and July for Hyvaa. I hope you all see how that would be kinda wierd seing what they have accomplished recently and in the past in the starleagues. You must be a retard if you laugh at Hiya. He really should be in there to pwn protoss. His TvP is S-class, without a doubt. 68% wins and he has beaten all six ''dragons'' as well as Much (who has ridiculous PvT). Look at his last 10: 9 wins and 5 of those were against ''dragons''. Hes not really "laughing at hiya".. ^^ And I really like his comparison to hyvaa he just doesnt belong to an "all star" group he might currently belong the best skillwise but hes just not as accomplished as much as any of the other Terrans, he should at least have gotten anywhere in Starleagues to be on an all star team. Well, how much has fake Yellow accomplished in Starleagues? He's in the Zerg all star team. I can see the point about Hiya not having All Star-status, but if Terran want to win both matchups, Hiya would've been great with his S-class TvP. Leta and Flash alone can cope with the Zerg lineup. yarnc has been a starleague regular for years and has made it out of groups multiple times hiya hasnt made it passed dual league yet. hiyas good but unproven. he has impressive wins but they come off an aggressive, slightly unusual style in bo1's. he will be significantly less effective as he gets more exposure. he doesnt belong with the other players in the event.
Ok, I must succumb. Leaving Hiya out was indeed the right thing for this event, but I still consider him to be a great TvP player that would've been usefull against the dirty Protosses.
Idra, I would very much like to hear your gosu progamer opinion about Leta (he's one of my favourite players). Do you, for instance, consider him to be overrated?
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hes good. very solid and safe, that works well for proleague style but until he gets more creative hes not gonna have much success in starleagues, especially in series play. (or if he just gets as good as flash)
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On March 14 2009 00:25 IdrA wrote:
hes good. very solid and safe, that works well for proleague style but until he gets more creative hes not gonna have much success in starleagues, especially in series play. (or if he just gets as good as flash)
Well, he has put up some highly creative games, like the proxy ebay->proxy fac->wraith-build against Luxury on Destination. :D That was awesome.
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Anyway since no one else posted this yet, here is the map order for when people make an LR thread.
Nada removed Return of the King
Savior removed Tears of the Moon
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Nada vs Savior?!?!??!?!?
HOLY SHIT EPIC!!!!!
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On March 14 2009 00:35 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2009 00:25 IdrA wrote:
hes good. very solid and safe, that works well for proleague style but until he gets more creative hes not gonna have much success in starleagues, especially in series play. (or if he just gets as good as flash) Well, he has put up some highly creative games, like the proxy ebay->proxy fac->wraith-build against Luxury on Destination. :D That was awesome.
well yeah he did start getting creative in a few games, so far only in TvZ though
And the lux series is I guess a good example for Idras point cause he lost the series despite being the mechanically superior player
ill be rooting for him to win a starleague soon though
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Protoss totally has this. They won the last Race War too, iirc.
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Wtf sAviOr removed ToTM from the map pool? That's a great map for zergs, against both T and P.
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Why there is no "Zerg" in the poll ?
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On March 14 2009 01:56 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Wtf sAviOr removed ToTM from the map pool? That's a great map for zergs, against both T and P.
He probably didn't want to learn it - so far it's only been in the OSL, and Savior didn't qualify for the OSL. It's very possible Savior has never played a game on this map.
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On March 14 2009 00:15 Ideas wrote:It SHOULD be JD instead of Yarnc (assuming they strive to have 4 players per team).
+1
It's pretty dissapointing not having the best zerg in the game in a racewars
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They should add one more player on each team. Jaedong for Zerg is the obvious choice...
Terran and Protoss seem a bit more difficult...
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Unfortuantly i think Protoss will take this easy
P is sporting an allstar lineup with 3 of their players in KeSPA top 10
and the other in the KeSPA top 20
Kim Taekyong (Bisu) - Best Protoss player in the history of Starcraft (arguable)
Song Byungoo (Stork) - vT killer and a consistant KeSPA top 10 member
Heo Yeongmul (Jangbi) - Consistant 2nd place finishes in MSL and GOM and on way to win MSL
Do Jaewook (BeSt) - Macro beast. Dragon. Nuff said
The Terrans are sporting 2 very very scary players in Leta and Flash
NaDa stepped up his game vs Jangbi in the MSL ro8~ and Hwasin is surging for a win in the OSL
Lee Youngho (Flash) - Ultimate Weapon. Killer of Dragons. Best terran on the pro scene right now
Shin Sangmoon (Leta) - New face but absolutly kickass play. Second best Terran in the world
Lee Yunyeol (Nada) - Who doesn't know NaDa? 3 OSL 3 MSL, but old...
Jn Yeongsu (Hwasin) - Red Sniper good vs Zerg,showing some kickass play in the Batoo OSL
I am worried about the Zerg...>.< No Jaedong? I'm afraid this will be over soon
Ma Jae-Yoon (SaviOr) - He is playing with a shadow of his former skill. Still good..but not as good
Park Sung-Joon (JulyZerg) - Calling it. SLUMPPP...
Park Chan-Soo (Luxury)Park Myung-Soo (Yellow[arnc]) Both are too inconsistant but explosive players
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Frankly it should be Jaedong not instead of Yarnc but instead of Savior or July. It should be fantasy or forGG instead of Nada probably.
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Protoss is going to lose to Zerg imo. Bisu has to be in top form that day and beat both July and Savior, as I'm pretty sure July can all-kill if he beats Bisu.
Terrran is going to win vs Zerg 4-2, July's ZvT is pretty bad. + Show Spoiler +Luxury showed pretty bad ZvT vs Fantasy
Protoss will wreck Terran. All the Protoss players here have over 60% win vs T.
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Oh the twins are playing but there JD? what!!!!
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All you July-doubters out there, I will laugh and spit in your face when July AK's Protoss on his own. ^^
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No Jaedong ;/
What is happening?
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This lack of Jaedong on the Zerg team is scary, what the hell could possibly warrant that. Trading Yarnc for Jaedong please.
Either way July is going to curb stomp protoss team, and if Zerg had both July and Jaedong i'd pick them over P to come out with more wins.
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On March 14 2009 04:35 o[twist] wrote:
Frankly it should be Jaedong not instead of Yarnc but instead of Savior or July. It should be fantasy or forGG instead of Nada probably.
I think July there fits well as he is the best ZvPer right now in the league. But Savior... With all respect, he doesn't really fit there. I think Yarnc deserves his spot. He's been doing really well recently (except of disappointing performance against ZerO).
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ehm all star and no boxer wtf??? im sure many have said this but ill just say it again....
what a shame....
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i do not understand the lack of jaedong.
where is the jaedong.
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While i think the zerg will fair fine without him with July poised to get a double all kill and all I feel the zerg race is not accurately represented with the lack of Jaedong.
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July is HUNGRY.
Savior can come, too.
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
Lol at Yarnc being the only one without a "nickname" next to his name in the full translation.
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United States1865 Posts
On March 14 2009 01:56 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Wtf sAviOr removed ToTM from the map pool? That's a great map for zergs, against both T and P.
rofl wtf is savior doing
i love the guy but jaedong needs his spot if Z wants to win race wars
*edit*
Fuck that nvm I want sAviOr vs NaDa too badly.
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so does anyone know why jaedong isnt in this?
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United States4126 Posts
On March 14 2009 01:56 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Wtf sAviOr removed ToTM from the map pool? That's a great map for zergs, against both T and P.
I remember a while ago in an interview, sAviOr talked about how he didn't like it that KeSPA started making Z-favored maps just because Zergs were doing badly. Seems like sAvior hates those maps.
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On March 13 2009 16:58 G.s)NarutO wrote:
No Jaedong? Pretty odd if you ask me o_O?
Well it's an OGN event so I'd imagine that Lecaf and OGN couldn't come to an agreement. It's possible Lecaf wanted money for Jaedong's involvement or something like that.
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United States1865 Posts
On March 14 2009 16:01 Kinky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2009 01:56 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Wtf sAviOr removed ToTM from the map pool? That's a great map for zergs, against both T and P. I remember a while ago in an interview, sAviOr talked about how he didn't like it that KeSPA started making Z-favored maps just because Zergs were doing badly. Seems like sAvior hates those maps.
Is there a link to this? I keep up on sAviOr interviews and I've never heard him say something like that.
Tears of the Moon is 5-5, balanced, for ZvT btw, so in retrospect it really isnt all that weird that he thumbed it down for the ZvT portion - its not like RH3 is in the pool.
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On March 14 2009 16:10 Atrioc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2009 16:01 Kinky wrote:On March 14 2009 01:56 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Wtf sAviOr removed ToTM from the map pool? That's a great map for zergs, against both T and P. I remember a while ago in an interview, sAviOr talked about how he didn't like it that KeSPA started making Z-favored maps just because Zergs were doing badly. Seems like sAvior hates those maps. Is there a link to this? I keep up on sAviOr interviews and I've never heard him say something like that. Tears of the Moon is 5-5, balanced, for ZvT btw, so in retrospect it really isnt all that weird that he thumbed it down for the ZvT portion - its not like RH3 is in the pool.
did you really just claim a map is balanced solely from statistics off of a 10 game pool?
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On March 14 2009 06:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
All you July-doubters out there, I will laugh and spit in your face when July AK's Protoss on his own. ^^
I'm sorry preemptively for your incoming disappointment.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
why not even zerg in the poll lol
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On March 14 2009 20:43 alffla wrote:why not even zerg in the poll lol
been wondering this rofl
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because z has no chance to win T___T
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Why does everyone cite career statistics to demonstrate a player's skill in a particular matchup? Do you really think players like Bisu or Jangbi are anything like they used to be 2 or 3 years ago?
A more accurate citation would display their stats for the last year, or the last several months.
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Lol, I just misread this as "All Star Rice Battle"
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Zerg 2-0
July will AK Protoss by default and his mutas should be a cool watch vs Terran too.
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On March 14 2009 20:53 Sanity. wrote:been wondering this rofl
NeverGG initially thought it was only TvP with Z not participating but it was clarified later.
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savior vs nada would be epic....
hah
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ok this does not seem too good for terran and zerg.
terran has flash who obviously is a beast and leta and hwasin and nada who are not doing well at all recently. 4 protoss>flash
for zerg, WHERE THE FUCK IS JAEDONG
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Yeah seriously, wtf? Yarnc/Savior but no Jaedong? Thanks OGN
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There are two kinds of Zerg fans,
Type 1
"WHERE IS JAEDONG?!?!?1/1/1/?!/!1/ONE!/?
This group of Zergs believes that there is only one player that can save their race from imminent trouncing so they call his name, hoping that their caps locked posts would serve as the batman spotlight for Jaedong. If Jaedong isn't in this thing, it's over, fucking GG. Might as well not have Zerg in the pool afterall.
Type 2
"_______ will rape all the P/T ez with his superior _______"
This group of Zergs is rabidly delusional, saying that slumping or oldschool players will somehow dominate the top players of the current. July is the most obvious of these examples; JULY WILL ALL-KILL PROTOSS. Lol for real? I mean just because he cheesed and outsmarted Best in his first OSL EVER, and took a game off Bisu at some point in time, people are saying he will destroy Stork who just beat him, Bisu who just beat him and everyone, and other top Protosses? Please. Savior... Don't even get me started on this tragic story, it's really sad to watch from the side.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On March 15 2009 09:44 fanatacist wrote:
There are two kinds of Zerg fans,
Type 1
"WHERE IS JAEDONG?!?!?1/1/1/?!/!1/ONE!/?
This group of Zergs believes that there is only one player that can save their race from imminent trouncing so they call his name, hoping that their caps locked posts would serve as the batman spotlight for Jaedong. If Jaedong isn't in this thing, it's over, fucking GG. Might as well not have Zerg in the pool afterall.
Type 2
"_______ will rape all the P/T ez with his superior _______"
This group of Zergs is rabidly delusional, saying that slumping or oldschool players will somehow dominate the top players of the current. July is the most obvious of these examples; JULY WILL ALL-KILL PROTOSS. Lol for real? I mean just because he cheesed and outsmarted Best in his first OSL EVER, and took a game off Bisu at some point in time, people are saying he will destroy Stork who just beat him, Bisu who just beat him and everyone, and other top Protosses? Please. Savior... Don't even get me started on this tragic story, it's really sad to watch from the side.
DIE YOU TOSS FAN
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On March 15 2009 09:51 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2009 09:44 fanatacist wrote:
There are two kinds of Zerg fans,
Type 1
"WHERE IS JAEDONG?!?!?1/1/1/?!/!1/ONE!/?
This group of Zergs believes that there is only one player that can save their race from imminent trouncing so they call his name, hoping that their caps locked posts would serve as the batman spotlight for Jaedong. If Jaedong isn't in this thing, it's over, fucking GG. Might as well not have Zerg in the pool afterall.
Type 2
"_______ will rape all the P/T ez with his superior _______"
This group of Zergs is rabidly delusional, saying that slumping or oldschool players will somehow dominate the top players of the current. July is the most obvious of these examples; JULY WILL ALL-KILL PROTOSS. Lol for real? I mean just because he cheesed and outsmarted Best in his first OSL EVER, and took a game off Bisu at some point in time, people are saying he will destroy Stork who just beat him, Bisu who just beat him and everyone, and other top Protosses? Please. Savior... Don't even get me started on this tragic story, it's really sad to watch from the side. DIE YOU TOSS FAN
There are two kinds of Toss fans,
Type 1
"OMG BISU WILL CRUSH THIS FUCKN NOOB LOL EZ"
Yes, Bisu is the best player of all fucking time. Not just present and past, but future as well. It seems impossible to these people that Bisu would lose anything, ever. When he lost the GOM Showmatch, it wasn't really a loss, it was a simple tactical mistake - even God makes mistakes sometimes. When by.hero beats Bisu, it's imba maps and history. When Savior beat Bisu, it was map again. When Bisu's gateway almost died when dropped, he deserved that win because DT was almost out! It's all true. Also, Stork is a pussy.
OneOtherType 2
"I fuckn haet bisu stork needs 2 be the #1 protoss evr"
Just because Bisu has been trouncing Stork everywhere, winning medals and shit, that doesn't mean anything: a true champion gets 6 silvers in a row and keeps struggling through the nerdtears. It doesn't matter how often you fail to deliver as long as you keep at it, right!? Eventually a newbie on the scene might make it to the finals and then you can cheese him and rape him due to his inexperience. A true champion is quiet, geeky looking, and will never explain his losses away due to 11-2 map imbalance or emotions felt because of that loss. Stork is #1 forever. Jangbi supporters tend to fall in this category too, since their hero is on his way to losing to Bisu just as badly as Stork does. Also, Bisu is a douche.
PS: Just joking around, OneOther ;D I think you are pretty reasonable most of the time.
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This forum is where the *real* race wars are at.
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On March 15 2009 10:16 Avidkeystamper wrote:
DIE YOU TERRAN FAN
Terran is for fags.
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On March 15 2009 16:37 fanatacist wrote:Terran is for people with talent.
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On March 15 2009 16:48 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2009 16:37 fanatacist wrote:On March 15 2009 10:16 Avidkeystamper wrote:
DIE YOU TERRAN FAN Terran is for people with talent.
A talent for being an elitist douche.
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No Jaedong, zergs are screwed
EDIT: apologises for being a textbook example of type 1 zerg
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On March 15 2009 09:44 fanatacist wrote:
Type 2
"_______ will rape all the P/T ez with his superior _______"
This group of Zergs is rabidly delusional, saying that slumping or oldschool players will somehow dominate the top players of the current. July is the most obvious of these examples; JULY WILL ALL-KILL PROTOSS. Lol for real? I mean just because he cheesed and outsmarted Best in his first OSL EVER, and took a game off Bisu at some point in time, people are saying he will destroy Stork who just beat him, Bisu who just beat him and everyone, and other top Protosses? Please. Savior... Don't even get me started on this tragic story, it's really sad to watch from the side.
Lol, you know July has a 68% career win percentage against protoss right? And you know that in snice january 08 he is 26-7, which is a 74% win rate. Those are better by a bit than any protoss PvZ. I'm not saying he's going to all-kill, but in this matchup he's the best player on either side.
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On March 14 2009 22:46 lxginverse wrote:
savior vs nada would be epic....
hah
Wish granted.
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how is July NOT a valid threat vs P? he has been a ZvP monster and still is, though yes i do agree Savior isnt that great but hes not a mediocre zerg anymore (like in massive slump phase) so stop with the rant that "omg old schoolers will fail cause they're extremely overinflated due to their past achievements"
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Realistically, will he all-kill?
No.
End of story.
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bisu might kill the other zergs
but then SAVIOR will destroy him like he did in the msl
and then the rest of the zergs will be like "omg gg bye"
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^
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A well (lol) disguied 2
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United States10328 Posts
fanaticist's posts are gold.
need some about antifans imo
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epic
but where is jaedong? Was he too busy?
500 euros for an all-kill, kinda low for pro gamers, though the won may have bigger value in korea.
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Protoss line-up seems so god-damn scary.
Edit: What the heck? No Jaedong? Take out fake yellow and put Jaedong in!
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On March 13 2009 12:11 Artosis wrote:
2bad this doesnt count for anything. if it did nada would probably kill them all himself.
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What is the reason of the absence of Lee Jae Dong ? He refused the invitation or other reason ?
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seriously, no JD, no racewars. this shit doesn't count.
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On March 17 2009 05:02 Glioburd wrote:
What is the reason of the absence of Lee Jae Dong ? He refused the invitation or other reason ?
I asked my friend at Fomos last night and she said Hwaseung doesn't usually participate in these kinds of show matches - also JD has individual events to prepare for and the head coach wanted them to have a period of rest. The team also has the play offs on Sunday so it's a pretty logical decision. Although poor Park Chansoo has two things to do in the next two weeks and he was playing last night for the zergs.
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OSL Finals Game 3 repeat anyone?! Go July :D
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EPT![[image loading]](http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12369075441.jpg)
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