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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-02 01:22:07
February 02 2009 01:19 GMT
#1
First of all, I will be writing the Power Rank this month as Steve is busy with his real life obligations. (Travel safe buddy). I am posting this today, a mere two weeks after the last PR, to get the column back on a monthly schedule.

Because there has only been two weeks, there have not been many games played. So, consider this a "mini-PR", focusing on recent Winners League performances and my own interpretation of things.



How I choose to calculate the Power Rank may be slightly different than how others have done it. Bear with me while I explain my thought process.

Imagine you are walking down the street when suddenly time and space rips open, sucking you into the vortex of an alternate universe. In this universe, there exists only you, Darth Vader, and the Korean progamers. You brace for the inevitable neck squeeze when you discover to your relief, the force does not work here.

You and Vader have a sit-down. It is obvious that the universe is only big enough for one of you. You decide to each choose one progamer to represent each other for one game, with the loser being killed and cast into oblivion.

The Power Rank consist not of the top ten who you would choose to play for you, but the top ten scariest opponents that Lord Vader could choose to end your life and suck your soul.

Good Luck.
ModeratorGodfather
rA.Hippie
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Denmark714 Posts
February 02 2009 01:20 GMT
#2
Awesome. Nothing less 8D
I love teh shisha.
Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
February 02 2009 01:25 GMT
#3
this is a judging method i can get behind
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
February 02 2009 01:26 GMT
#4
ROFL
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
February 02 2009 01:31 GMT
#5
lol that actually makes perfect sense. Thx for bringing the pr back to schedule mani!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
February 02 2009 01:37 GMT
#6
YES, its going to be on schedule now
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
February 02 2009 01:38 GMT
#7
hahaha. i'll come back to this after i've read the pr
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 02 2009 01:38 GMT
#8
i love you mani
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
February 02 2009 01:45 GMT
#9
On February 02 2009 10:25 Tropics wrote:
this is a judging method i can get behind


choo choo!
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
February 02 2009 01:47 GMT
#10
wow so tru w/ exception of #10

storks just a wannabe pretty-boy using lipgloss + makeup & shit he's so gay
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
February 02 2009 02:11 GMT
#11
Solid judging method
TranslatorBaa!
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
February 02 2009 03:52 GMT
#12
AHAHAHAHA Epic Judging Method.
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
February 02 2009 04:07 GMT
#13
lmao awesome, and very nice PR as well
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
February 02 2009 04:11 GMT
#14
On February 02 2009 11:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Solid judging method


lol.. agree wholeheartedly.
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
February 02 2009 04:26 GMT
#15
On February 02 2009 10:19 Manifesto7 wrote:
The Power Rank consist not of the top ten who you would choose to play for you, but...

You tricky rascal!
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
February 02 2009 04:33 GMT
#16
What race would Vader play.....
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
February 02 2009 04:47 GMT
#17
Vader would clearly play Zerg.
Any other choice would clearly make him a pussy.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
February 02 2009 04:53 GMT
#18
Vader cheeses every game.

And it's not some pussy 4/5 pool either. Vader's so fucking badass, he does a 0-pool rush. Epitome of kekekezergrush TBH.
TranslatorBaa!
fifi580
Profile Joined April 2008
United States6 Posts
February 02 2009 05:03 GMT
#19
Actually, Vader plays Zerg and does a fast gas build, use the first 50 minerals for an Extractor, don't mine any minerals with your 3 drones. Wait for gas is up, then start mining gas.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 02 2009 05:04 GMT
#20
On February 02 2009 13:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Vader cheeses every game.

And it's not some pussy 4/5 pool either. Vader's so fucking badass, he does a 0-pool rush. Epitome of kekekezergrush TBH.


The 0pool is fucking scary!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Theclutch
Profile Joined January 2009
United States119 Posts
February 02 2009 05:04 GMT
#21
On February 02 2009 14:03 fifi580 wrote:
Actually, Vader plays Zerg and does a fast gas build, use the first 50 minerals for an Extractor, don't mine any minerals with your 3 drones. Wait for gas is up, then start mining gas.


then blows up alderan......
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
February 02 2009 05:07 GMT
#22
vader always fights on ramps
dats racist
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
February 02 2009 05:08 GMT
#23
Awesome! I'm glad PR is back to a regular schedule.
✌
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8173 Posts
February 02 2009 05:14 GMT
#24
On February 02 2009 14:08 jwd241224 wrote:
Awesome! I'm glad PR is back to a regular schedule.


isnt it irregular at this point? lol
Free Palestine
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
February 02 2009 05:17 GMT
#25
This is way cool.
Brood War loyalist
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
February 02 2009 06:11 GMT
#26
at least i die a man : \
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
February 02 2009 06:24 GMT
#27
Mani,you are awesome as hell!!
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
February 02 2009 06:27 GMT
#28
that's a scary way to put it. it sounds like a pokemon match now.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
February 02 2009 07:58 GMT
#29
^^
Kwanro: I don’t really have much to film…
Iris: Now, attack! Pikachu!
Iris: I’ll stoop down~ get up
Kwanro: I don’t want to get full body shots

[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
February 02 2009 10:06 GMT
#30
Thank you very much for this
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
February 02 2009 11:38 GMT
#31
cool
Darth Vader is so screwed
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
February 02 2009 12:30 GMT
#32
PR is pretty spot on, I say. I wouldn't have even bothered with an explanation ^^
Chains none
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
February 02 2009 12:45 GMT
#33
I would always choose Jaedong if my life depended on it
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
February 02 2009 12:45 GMT
#34
Hahahaha!!!!! I love this explanation!!!! However, if I was going up against Darth Vader in this format, I would choose players that counter his picks! And I can think of many..... *cough cough* + Show Spoiler +
Savior
would be one choice of mine...
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
February 02 2009 12:45 GMT
#35
<3
Not my chair. Not my problem. That's what I say
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
February 02 2009 13:44 GMT
#36
On February 02 2009 14:07 MrHoon wrote:
vader always fights on ramps


heheh
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HooHa!
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States688 Posts
February 02 2009 15:50 GMT
#37
Vaders Dts can seige up and splash damage.
Hoo Ra!
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
February 02 2009 16:43 GMT
#38
nice PR, thanks!
and Vader's coward.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 02 2009 20:54 GMT
#39
Vaders dragoons are so powerful they destroy the map they are playing on.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4664 Posts
February 02 2009 21:03 GMT
#40
This was such an amazing post
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
Avius
Profile Joined October 2007
Iraq1796 Posts
February 02 2009 21:05 GMT
#41
PR and Vader in one post? Awesomeness ensues
aka. Samael
Linx_101
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada166 Posts
February 02 2009 21:28 GMT
#42
Your statistics are wrong Manifesto, you said that Leta hasn't lost 2 TV games in a row since May 2008, however he lost consecutively on September 18 and October 4, to Iris and Backho respectively. Just thought I'd point that out.

Anyways great PR this month
An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind - Mahatma Gandhi
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
February 02 2009 21:44 GMT
#43
Yeah I see that now... stupid tlpd screwing me up.
ModeratorGodfather
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
February 02 2009 22:10 GMT
#44
roooooooofl jesus
done
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany70 Posts
February 02 2009 22:37 GMT
#45
lol jaedong all the way, to protect my life above all vader could throw in...
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
February 03 2009 01:31 GMT
#46
TBH, I'd choose July. If he loses, he just consumes Vader for extra energy, then turns into an Ultralisk that can cast PLAAAAAYGUUUUU.
TranslatorBaa!
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
February 03 2009 04:42 GMT
#47
you know, this TLPD is pretty accurate lol
dats racist
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17789 Posts
February 03 2009 19:11 GMT
#48
On February 03 2009 07:37 done wrote:
lol jaedong all the way, to protect my life above all vader could throw in...


Have you read the explanation? It's Vader who gets to use JD.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
February 03 2009 19:17 GMT
#49
On February 04 2009 04:11 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2009 07:37 done wrote:
lol jaedong all the way, to protect my life above all vader could throw in...


Have you read the explanation? It's Vader who gets to use JD.


Yea, although I think it might be okay if I get like boxer oov and flash on a team against jd

great to see the powerank get back on schedule.
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Mista_Masta
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands557 Posts
February 04 2009 22:14 GMT
#50
I think this is the best criterium ever to determine the power rank! Great job =)
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
February 04 2009 22:39 GMT
#51
loooooooooooooooooooool
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d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
February 05 2009 02:41 GMT
#52
The 0 pool *shivers* that's the one where instead of spawning with 4 drones he spawns with a spawning pool and 150 minerals correct?
Hi.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
February 05 2009 02:48 GMT
#53
On February 05 2009 11:41 d(O.o)a wrote:
The 0 pool *shivers* that's the one where instead of spawning with 4 drones he spawns with a spawning pool and 150 minerals correct?

It's when you kill 3 of your initial drones THEN make a pool.
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