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On March 01 2009 17:27 Underwhelmed wrote:
I think UCSB is going to withdraw. Mindgames apparently has gotten himself a job and doesn't have the time to organize things, there's not really anybody else willing to step up. We do have a cstarleague team, but the guy running it doesn't want to take on additional responsibilities.
UCI will have to do the same. I've been doing a bit worse in school lately and I need to get my act together, especially with finals coming up, so I need as little on my plate as possible. Our CSL manager also doesn't want to manage two leagues. We also have a lack of interest on our team to participate in the UCPL
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Wow...man I knew this thing would fall apart  .
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So I guess UCDavis vs UCRiverside = special exhibition match...
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bad timing, finals and all coming up...
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UCSB and UCI are out?
The fuck guys.
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This whole thing is going to hell. This makes me sad.
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this is like the stock market, TWO TEAMS BANKRUPT!!! EVERYONE FUCKING BAIL!!!!!
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On March 01 2009 16:27 Centric wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 16:07 PH wrote:On March 01 2009 15:21 Centric wrote:On March 01 2009 07:22 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote:
Dino is not = to Dinot right?
Just to let you know as captain of the UCD team we are all about D/D+ so go easy on us... Dinot = Top foreign Z player from Chile Dino = One of the most infamous foreign hackers of all time He won't be hacking, don't worry. I know he doesn't need to hack against us...he's a really good player in his own right. It's just the fact that he's kind of a douche for hacking in the past that makes it questionable.
Agreed. By allowing known, unrepentant hackers to compete, you undermine the integrity of the league and dismiss the honest playerbase - regardless of whether or not Dino hacks in this particular event.
Universal banning of hackers/abusers from all competition is one of the first conditions we must clear to legitimize e-sports in the greater public conscience.
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On March 02 2009 07:43 Last Romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 16:27 Centric wrote:On March 01 2009 16:07 PH wrote:On March 01 2009 15:21 Centric wrote:On March 01 2009 07:22 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote:
Dino is not = to Dinot right?
Just to let you know as captain of the UCD team we are all about D/D+ so go easy on us... Dinot = Top foreign Z player from Chile Dino = One of the most infamous foreign hackers of all time He won't be hacking, don't worry. I know he doesn't need to hack against us...he's a really good player in his own right. It's just the fact that he's kind of a douche for hacking in the past that makes it questionable. Agreed. By allowing known, unrepentant hackers to compete, you undermine the integrity of the league and dismiss the honest playerbase - regardless of whether or not Dino hacks in this particular event. Universal banning of hackers/abusers from all competition is one of the first conditions we must clear to legitimize e-sports in the greater public conscience.
I will vouch that for as long as I've known him (the past several weeks), he has not done any abuses...he no longer plays competitively, so what would be the point, really? Whatever, I'm not gonna say anymore...I didn't even know who Dino was until AFTER this thread, so I don't know the entire situation firsthand.
However, I think it would also preserve the integrity of the league for the school you represent to not have pulled out in the manner they did... -______-
This is rather unrelated, but this UCPL is not going well...lol.
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On March 02 2009 07:43 Last Romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2009 16:27 Centric wrote:On March 01 2009 16:07 PH wrote:On March 01 2009 15:21 Centric wrote:On March 01 2009 07:22 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote:
Dino is not = to Dinot right?
Just to let you know as captain of the UCD team we are all about D/D+ so go easy on us... Dinot = Top foreign Z player from Chile Dino = One of the most infamous foreign hackers of all time He won't be hacking, don't worry. I know he doesn't need to hack against us...he's a really good player in his own right. It's just the fact that he's kind of a douche for hacking in the past that makes it questionable. Agreed. By allowing known, unrepentant hackers to compete, you undermine the integrity of the league and dismiss the honest playerbase - regardless of whether or not Dino hacks in this particular event. Universal banning of hackers/abusers from all competition is one of the first conditions we must clear to legitimize e-sports in the greater public conscience.
Well said. I'm very iffy about arguing against Dino playing because he actually is a very good player...and I don't want to make it seem like we just want to dodge his skill. However, I have a lot of moral qualms about allowing him to play, because that sends the message that if you hack, you'll never pay for it.
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we should have a vote, as I said before.
it just sucks that schools are flaking out at the last minute.
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terribly sorry
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On March 02 2009 08:19 Xeris wrote:
we should have a vote, as I said before.
it just sucks that schools are flaking out at the last minute.
Agreed.
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On March 02 2009 08:18 Centric wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2009 07:43 Last Romantic wrote:On March 01 2009 16:27 Centric wrote:On March 01 2009 16:07 PH wrote:On March 01 2009 15:21 Centric wrote:On March 01 2009 07:22 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote:
Dino is not = to Dinot right?
Just to let you know as captain of the UCD team we are all about D/D+ so go easy on us... Dinot = Top foreign Z player from Chile Dino = One of the most infamous foreign hackers of all time He won't be hacking, don't worry. I know he doesn't need to hack against us...he's a really good player in his own right. It's just the fact that he's kind of a douche for hacking in the past that makes it questionable. Agreed. By allowing known, unrepentant hackers to compete, you undermine the integrity of the league and dismiss the honest playerbase - regardless of whether or not Dino hacks in this particular event. Universal banning of hackers/abusers from all competition is one of the first conditions we must clear to legitimize e-sports in the greater public conscience. Well said. I'm very iffy about arguing against Dino playing because he actually is a very good player...and I don't want to make it seem like we just want to dodge his skill. However, I have a lot of moral qualms about allowing him to play, because that sends the message that if you hack, you'll never pay for it.
I understand that completely. It is that he is a good player in his own right that complicates this matter. I'm not particularly jumping up and down defending him, but I mean...like I said, I've only known him for several weeks (I wasn't around during the WCG debacle), and he hasn't done anything suspicious as long as I've known of him. In fact, he's a rather chill and gm guy irl. I know TL has a very unforgiving overall outlook against hackers and abusers which I think is perfectly understandable and reasonable.
From the perspective of a guy organizing a group of players to compete in things like UCPL and CSL, I would rather be able to play him. He is a good player, and he is very helpful. He's been assisting, teaching and practicing with everyone.
On March 02 2009 08:19 Xeris wrote:
we should have a vote, as I said before.
it just sucks that schools are flaking out at the last minute.
I agree...but I thought the general consensus was that it wouldn't destroy the world if he were allowed to play... -____-. I only find it odd that it's only now that serious objections are arising.
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If all the other teams pull-out, can I put on my resume team captain of the winning team/second place team of the first UCPL, lol?
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On March 02 2009 08:41 PH wrote:
I agree...but I thought the general consensus was that it wouldn't destroy the world if he were allowed to play... -____-. I only find it odd that it's only now that serious objections are arising.
It's only now that this is coming up because it's only now that I realize he's actually on the roster and he will be playing. I guess at this point it doesn't matter, but it would've been nice to have a vote or discussion at least.
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Well, he's been on the roster for more than a week. I do realize that we didn't have our lineup until Friday, however.
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UCD vs UCR is starting now... first match
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