EPTAnd for the superstitious ones who've read that bonjwa pattern thread, Bisu just won his 3rd MSL and Leta was born in November...
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PoP
France15446 Posts
And for the superstitious ones who've read that bonjwa pattern thread, Bisu just won his 3rd MSL and Leta was born in November... | ||
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Sprite
United States1015 Posts
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Wurzelbrumpft
Germany471 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
6-4 last 10, 3 of which were losses to Bisu. That is NOT "sucks balls". | ||
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
On December 17 2008 05:56 jello_biafra wrote:  Mind is on the rise again. He's gonna take all these suckas out!I sure hope so, I've been a huge fan of him. I love when he rapes his opponent using pure game sense. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
These days, being "good" just doesn't cut it. If you want to be the best, you have to be able to perform under pressure, and Leta hasn't shown that. Top Terran I'd say is still Flash followed closely by FBH. | ||
GTR
51536 Posts
My pick for now is Leta, since he has been SUCH a Fantasy beast. We will have to wait until tonight to see if he is actually worth the hype (Sea will be very tough to beat). | ||
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GTR
51536 Posts
On December 17 2008 06:49 TheYango wrote: Leta's good, no doubt about that. Top Terran? Not without any Starleague BoX experience. These days, being "good" just doesn't cut it. If you want to be the best, you have to be able to perform under pressure, and Leta hasn't shown that. Top Terran I'd say is still Flash followed closely by FBH. You can't really claim that because Terran's have struggled to make the BoX stages during these times. Also, what defines pressure? I find Ace matches one of the most high intense pressure matches to play behind Set 5's and PL Finals. Leta has pretty much won every Ace match this season bar one, check out who he beat too. PuMa - meh player Luxury - good player Really - good player If he keeps performing the way he is, he is going to have a breakout season similar to what Flash did last year (GOMTV S2/Daum period). | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On December 17 2008 06:55 GTR-2-Go wrote: Flash is definitely under performing. I can't count him now as a top Terran until he starts winning games 'often' against S-Class players. My pick for now is Leta, since he has been SUCH a Fantasy beast. We will have to wait until tonight to see if he is actually worth the hype (Sea will be very tough to beat). I think you just pretty much made the case why Flash is the best terran. He's put on a pedestal that even losing to Stork is someone a minus. OTOH, Leta hasn't beaten a top player since the beginning of the PL season against FBH. I was wondering why someone would bother to mention Leta of all people for best terran. Now I get it. Fantasy points(arbitrary statistic made for fun) is now a method of judging players I guess. | ||
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On December 17 2008 07:01 baubo wrote: I think you just pretty much made the case why Flash is the best terran. He's put on a pedestal that even losing to Stork is someone a minus. OTOH, Leta hasn't beaten a top player since the beginning of the PL season against FBH. I was wondering why someone would bother to mention Leta of all people for best terran. Now I get it. Fantasy points(arbitrary statistic made for fun) is now a method of judging players I guess. well i don't play fantasy. but i think leta is strong. i think PL performance can be an indicator of a player's future dominance, and right now leta is impressing me with his play. football analogy: Flash is like Tomlinson, Leta is like... who's a good running back right NOW. point being is that one's a good player with a lot of name brand recognition, the other is a lesser known player but performing drastically above expectations. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On December 17 2008 04:30 bubblegumbo wrote: Could anyone see Leta beating Jangi, Best or Stork if they faceoff in the proleagues? Or would Flash have a better chance against those players? There's your answer. I liked Leta's consistency since last season, but he has yet to beat the S-class progamers. Right now he is doing his job well: beating everyone that I consider decent, but not the elite-tiered players I don't see Flash beating JangBI and Stork , maybe Best . But he sure as hell got a better chance then Leta does thought  . | ||
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Naib
Hungary4844 Posts
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benjammin
United States2728 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On December 17 2008 06:44 Shikyo wrote: 6-4 last 10, 3 of which were losses to Bisu. That is NOT "sucks balls". I'll consider FBH decent in TvP if he beats an above average toss in Bo 3 series . And yes tempest is not above average ... | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8091 Posts
On December 17 2008 05:38 Zozma wrote: Flash is an example of someone who is only doing well in Proleague right now, correct? And if you say that we have to wait for the next Starleague season before we can say that, I'd like to say the same thing about Leta. If you just watch this Starleague season, the answer will become clear. By the way, why does everyone hate Really? I think he's pretty good... No not correct, offlines have alredy started and flash is still in both leauges Flash as of late has been tearing through all the leauges so id have to give him that no.1 spot but its followed close by alot of other terrans 1. Flash 2. Mind 3. Sea 4. FBH 5. Leta 6. Forgg | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
Not only that, but how good his TvZ is is still unclear(he beat Lux with 2port wraiths, and used 3port wraiths to give himself a large advantage against GGplay). For TvP, although he beat Kal twice, Best, and Bisu last season, all he's done this season is lose to Best, get proxy-gated by Backho, and bash some mediocre protosses. With FBH suddenly improving his TvP and Mind playing better, I think that number 2 terran is a close competition between FBH, Mind, and Leta. Number one, though? Maybe in a month or two. Right now? no way, sadly. | ||
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Augury
United States758 Posts
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Barbarne
Sweden458 Posts
His TvP is stylish and sometimes godlike, but he sometimes makes mistakes he shouldn't. Like his game versus stats. Sure he won, but it was not a clean victory against such a (currently) low tier protoss. His biggest problem is his TvZ. But I think that as long as he can prepare some cute strategys ahead of time (like Leta vs GGplay) or surprise his opponent (luxury vs leta) I think he could beat most zergs in boX on a good day. He's not the best overall, but who is? I could not possibly say, since FBH's TvP isn't near champion level, and Flash is deep in a rut in TvZ as well as TvP (sure he plays nice games, but he's still doing his outdated double armory strat). Mind is looking better again, but not good enough (yet at least), fantasy is kind of meh as a lot of his PL games has proven, really has loads of potential, and skyhigh looks like he might be able to do what iris could not. All the terrans are good at different things, and it's all about who (or what race) you're playing against. A lot is happening in the terran camp, and a new top dog is probably going to be crowned pretty soon, it's imposible to say who though, but Leta is my pick. + Show Spoiler + but that could just be fanboyism : ) | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
On December 17 2008 06:25 TarsTarkas wrote: Why do people think that FBH is better than Mind? Mind is awesome. FBH is the last Terran to beat Flash. Does that say something? TvT FBH > Mind TvZ FBH > Mind TvP FBH < Mind In this era, the better P killer will get farther in starleagues i guess... | ||
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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On December 17 2008 07:29 o3.power91 wrote: FBH is the last Terran to beat Flash. Does that say something? Not really, since it was with BBS. | ||
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