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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8140 Posts
December 03 2008 13:59 GMT
#21
Finally a good interview!

It's good to see a pro-gamer not being ridiculously over-cocky, and mature enough to admit his own weakness.

Savior's decision to avoid FBH for a while is also a very good one. He get pwnd psyhologically by this boy and therefore just can't win.

We'll see. Savior is a clever guy, I have good hopes for him.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
December 03 2008 14:32 GMT
#22
thanks for the translation
panda_inc
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia170 Posts
December 03 2008 14:54 GMT
#23
:'(
LightRailCoyote
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States982 Posts
December 03 2008 15:13 GMT
#24
The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.

The second and final step to recovery is smashing that problem in the face with epic defiler control.

Lee Seung Eun had better watch his back in 2009.
AKA SurfSolar ----- This is the product of a DIY inadequate home
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
December 03 2008 15:33 GMT
#25
yeah firebathero better watch yo watch yo watch yo back
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
ilovehnk
Profile Joined October 2008
475 Posts
December 03 2008 15:39 GMT
#26
the ling/lurker flank timing was off, his bottom force got almost eliminated before his top force arrived. Very bad timing, indeed a newbie pro would have pulled that off decently.
Hikou Shinketsushuu
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
December 03 2008 15:52 GMT
#27
LOL~ I'm so glad Savior is sickly disappointed with himself.
He should be. That was a terrible attack.
I don't think he has to worry too much as long as he doesn't just noobify like that game. His form has been good lately.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-03 16:07:00
December 03 2008 16:06 GMT
#28
translation:

I'd like to not face my rapist for a while. I still smell of rape.

I've been a Savior fan since the beginning, but dude's got issues to sort out. For starters, stop being so sorry!!!!
......::::........::::........::::........::::........::::.......::::.......::::... Up☆MaGiC ...::::.......::::.......::::........::::........::::........::::........
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 03 2008 16:10 GMT
#29
On December 03 2008 22:59 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Finally a good interview!

It's good to see a pro-gamer not being ridiculously over-cocky, and mature enough to admit his own weakness.

Savior's decision to avoid FBH for a while is also a very good one. He get pwnd psyhologically by this boy and therefore just can't win.

We'll see. Savior is a clever guy, I have good hopes for him.

First we say Koreans are too humble
and now we say Koreans are too overconfident

goddamnit what the hell do you guys want
dats racist
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
December 03 2008 16:52 GMT
#30
That was a nice interview. Good to see that Savior is still trying to improve himself and whatnot~
this is my quote.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-03 16:59:13
December 03 2008 16:58 GMT
#31
On December 03 2008 22:59 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Finally a good interview!

It's good to see a pro-gamer not being ridiculously over-cocky, and mature enough to admit his own weakness.

Savior's decision to avoid FBH for a while is also a very good one. He get pwnd psyhologically by this boy and therefore just can't win.

We'll see. Savior is a clever guy, I have good hopes for him.

they are almost never over-cocky in interviews what are you talking about
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
December 03 2008 17:01 GMT
#32
anytime is
wraiths go pew pew
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
December 03 2008 17:03 GMT
#33
Probably the best thing for him. He should stop obsessing with beating FBH and just try get his old self overall back. Even if he could regain his old form, there is no guarantee he will be able to beat FBH consistently. There have always been cases of some progamers losing always to a certain rival they were supposed to be able to beat in their current shape.
astalkulo
Profile Joined October 2007
United States444 Posts
December 03 2008 18:23 GMT
#34
When is 2009 in Korea?
Romanian from
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania89 Posts
December 03 2008 18:33 GMT
#35
On December 04 2008 03:23 astalkulo wrote:
When is 2009 in Korea?

about 1 yr after 2008 in Korea
simcar
Profile Joined November 2008
Korea (South)118 Posts
December 03 2008 18:40 GMT
#36
Go Savior GO!
I know u will kill everybody except FBH
Savior will destroy everybody!!!
NahLGaE
Profile Joined February 2008
Korea (South)523 Posts
December 03 2008 18:41 GMT
#37
On December 03 2008 20:25 kemoryan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2008 19:59 Tropics wrote:
After this loss like the last loss that came after facing a favorable situation that was a match I couldn't lose, I feel like I can't not recognize it now

hands down the most confusing thing i've ever read


Wth does that phrase supposed to mean?


lol sorry for my bad tl =x

its supposed to mean like he can't ignore this now after this loss, that similar to his last loss against fbh, came in a match where he felt he had the upper hand at first and it was a match he felt he couldn't lose in but somehow fucked up and ended up losing somehow. is that a little better/more clear? >>
마재윤.
Zortch
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada635 Posts
December 03 2008 18:43 GMT
#38
That was awesome to read even though it was sad.
Its great to see his mature acceptance of his shortcomings and an iron determination to overcome them. The first step to recovery is admiting you have a problem and I think that is what we are seeing here. He knows his situation now, and I think he can get out of it.
I wasn't around to see him dominating all through his prime(though I'd watched VODs), but watching him now, and reading his interviews makes me a bigger fan than ever.
Savior fighting!
Respect is everything. ~ARchon
FConnectionUK *
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States316 Posts
December 03 2008 18:51 GMT
#39
It's a sad thing when a progamer admits someone else is a better than he is... he will never have any self confidence anymore... he will soon see everyone, not just FBH now, as a better player than he is... he just crossed the line... only thing that awaits him is retirement...
SC:BW - NrG.fCuk // SC2 - NrGGuN
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-03 18:58:51
December 03 2008 18:54 GMT
#40
On December 04 2008 03:51 FConnectionUK wrote:
It's a sad thing when a progamer admits someone else is a better than he is... he will never have any self confidence anymore... he will soon see everyone, not just FBH now, as a better player than he is... he just crossed the line... only thing that awaits him is retirement...

not surprising you think this given that you are a huge FBH fan. acknowledging someone is better than you right now is far different than saying i can never beat him in the future. maybe savior will retire, maybe not. i don't think the turning point is a single interview when he acknowledges that firebathero was better on a particular day.

of course FBH was better: he won. is denial and delusional self-confidence a better path? savior said he screwed up the attack like a newbie did. it implies he would've won if he executed better. no excuses, he didn't attack correctly, but its not like he gave up all hope at the countdown. savior had an opportunity to win and he saw that.
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