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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 02 2008 07:55 GMT
#21
On November 02 2008 16:52 x89titan wrote:
i pity the foo who votes NO


Clearly everyone else does too.

It's a pretty good writeup, but i'm not sure that blizzard will listen ><;;
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hubfub
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Australia352 Posts
November 02 2008 07:55 GMT
#22
PLEASE BLIZZARD NO MBS FOR SC2

PLEASE
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
November 02 2008 08:01 GMT
#23
The thing is... Blizzard can make a great game with MBS, automine and all that crap.

But to make an e-sport they need to stop making a great game for my mom.
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
November 02 2008 08:05 GMT
#24
On November 02 2008 17:01 village_idiot wrote:
The thing is... Blizzard can make a great game with MBS, automine and all that crap.

But to make an e-sport they need to stop making a great game for my mom.

Well said.
Super serious.
inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
November 02 2008 08:09 GMT
#25
This is hilarious, but I thought we were done with MBS threads.
It would be cool if SC2 could be a competitive e-sport and fun for Jim the Lumberjack (or whoever that bearded guy is).
There is nothing cuter than a zergling when it has just started taking crack
Augury
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States758 Posts
November 02 2008 08:17 GMT
#26
Players fit into two categories: casual players and people that want to be the best. Casual players shouldn't care about MBS or Automine, they don't make the game easier to learn, they just make the game more difficult to master. Why would you care about mastering the game and being the best if you just want to play for fun? The other side includes people that want to be the best and their entire reason behind wanting MBS and Automine is that it gives them the idea that they can now be the best or be a 'progamer'.

This is a horribly formed argument, but I couldn't find a way to word it correctly. The summary is that casual players shouldn't care if the game has MBS or not. The players that care and want MBS, want it so that they can achieve a skill level that they couldn't without it.

Really hoping that makes sense, also I think it's dumb when people want to put less hours into a game and expect to be better than someone else, because they're simple smarter.

Football for example:

Smart player: Use intelligence to make plays.

'Physical' player: Uses speed and strength to make plays that he has developed through hard work.

SC players should be able to work harder to overcome a lack of strategic knowledge through better macro/micro and smarter players should be able to use their brains to make up for weaker macro/micro. The best players will have both skillsets.
Eben
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States769 Posts
November 02 2008 08:38 GMT
#27
I'm behind this article 100%.
ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
November 02 2008 08:47 GMT
#28
Perfect!
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 02 2008 08:47 GMT
#29
On November 02 2008 17:09 inlagdsil wrote:
This is hilarious, but I thought we were done with MBS threads.
It would be cool if SC2 could be a competitive e-sport and fun for Jim the Lumberjack (or whoever that bearded guy is).

are you a progamer?
is sc not fun for you?
they are not mutually exclusive, manual macro and control do not make the game suck for low level players.
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Augury
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States758 Posts
November 02 2008 08:50 GMT
#30
On November 02 2008 17:47 IdrA wrote:
are you a progamer?
is sc not fun for you?
they are not mutually exclusive, manual macro and control do not make the game suck for low level players.


Agreed, removing MBS and Automine doesn't make the game harder to learn or less accessible to 'casual' players. The only thing it does is make it harder for them to be a 'progamer'. It's absurd that people are hoping to be the best with minimal effort, practice, dedication, etc..
timchi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States57 Posts
November 02 2008 09:03 GMT
#31
it just won't be the same with MBS.. =\

NO on MBS.
nujabes
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States286 Posts
November 02 2008 09:04 GMT
#32
really really good article
agree with it 100%
eth0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada208 Posts
November 02 2008 09:13 GMT
#33
I believe we should protest outside of Blizzard.
Because he is Mantoss, the incarnation of masculinity and awesomeness.
Manbear
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada306 Posts
November 02 2008 09:13 GMT
#34
good article,down with MBS!
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
November 02 2008 09:14 GMT
#35
Oh well at least if MBS exists, 1) i will still stick to BW 2) i will get sc2 for the campaign, obv 3) i will be able to own the people in SC2 (the newcomers who haven't played SC 1)

hihi :D
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lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
November 02 2008 09:42 GMT
#36
Awesome article ITW :D, lets be serious though.. PLEASE NO MBS
You can't fight the feeling.
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
November 02 2008 09:44 GMT
#37
WOW! What a great and still humerous article.
Some parts of this should in one way or another be forced to the workdesk of mr Dustin Browder.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
November 02 2008 09:45 GMT
#38
--- Nuked ---
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
November 02 2008 09:49 GMT
#39
AGREED 101%
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Meiya
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia1169 Posts
November 02 2008 09:57 GMT
#40
This may be a useless comment, but IntoTheWow, this is a good thread and you should feel good.
Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands.
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