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Stork will get first next month and Jaedong 3 with Best 2nd
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On November 03 2008 03:47 Railz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2008 16:09 Baddieko wrote:On November 01 2008 22:19 Plexa wrote:On November 01 2008 02:08 fusionsdf wrote:On November 01 2008 01:20 Plexa wrote:On November 01 2008 01:16 fusionsdf wrote:On October 31 2008 22:45 MrHoon wrote:On October 31 2008 22:28 meegrean wrote:
lol, didn't expect Flash to still be number 1. well, he did have the shortest yet most dominant streak ever wouldnt that be iloveoov? What? the player who almost brought brood war to an end after dominating the scene too hard for an extended period of time? for like what 16 months? iloveoov is generally recognized as the fastest rising player and most dominant in his prime if you want consistency, go for nada Yes, and are you trying to tell me that 16 months is not a long period of time? Yes Nada is more consistent, no one was arguing about that. Flash's reign lasted 3 months - oov lasted 5 times that. U can't compare the past and present. In the early years there are little protoss and zerg powerhouses and some of the strats are not uncovered yet. Oov and nada dominated because they pioneered the macro game. Now everyone in top 30 KeSPA can macro and micro like them in the past. Definitely sc has become much more competitive. No one will stay long at No.1, the longest will be only 3 months due to OSL/MSL win. Just being able to build units is not what made Oov strong..
90% of his victories that time is by plain outmacroing. Just like boxer, they gained dominance before everyone catch up.
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On November 04 2008 02:42 Baddieko wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2008 03:47 Railz wrote:On November 02 2008 16:09 Baddieko wrote:On November 01 2008 22:19 Plexa wrote:On November 01 2008 02:08 fusionsdf wrote:On November 01 2008 01:20 Plexa wrote:On November 01 2008 01:16 fusionsdf wrote:On October 31 2008 22:45 MrHoon wrote:On October 31 2008 22:28 meegrean wrote:
lol, didn't expect Flash to still be number 1. well, he did have the shortest yet most dominant streak ever wouldnt that be iloveoov? What? the player who almost brought brood war to an end after dominating the scene too hard for an extended period of time? for like what 16 months? iloveoov is generally recognized as the fastest rising player and most dominant in his prime if you want consistency, go for nada Yes, and are you trying to tell me that 16 months is not a long period of time? Yes Nada is more consistent, no one was arguing about that. Flash's reign lasted 3 months - oov lasted 5 times that. U can't compare the past and present. In the early years there are little protoss and zerg powerhouses and some of the strats are not uncovered yet. Oov and nada dominated because they pioneered the macro game. Now everyone in top 30 KeSPA can macro and micro like them in the past. Definitely sc has become much more competitive. No one will stay long at No.1, the longest will be only 3 months due to OSL/MSL win. Just being able to build units is not what made Oov strong.. 80% of his victories that time and by plain outmacroing. Just like boxer, they gained dominance before everyone catch up. Kudos to them for pioneering and therefore be installed into lengendary status. But if they play using their past strengths now, they are overrated.
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On November 04 2008 02:44 Baddieko wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2008 02:42 Baddieko wrote:On November 03 2008 03:47 Railz wrote:On November 02 2008 16:09 Baddieko wrote:On November 01 2008 22:19 Plexa wrote:On November 01 2008 02:08 fusionsdf wrote:On November 01 2008 01:20 Plexa wrote:On November 01 2008 01:16 fusionsdf wrote:On October 31 2008 22:45 MrHoon wrote:On October 31 2008 22:28 meegrean wrote:
lol, didn't expect Flash to still be number 1. well, he did have the shortest yet most dominant streak ever wouldnt that be iloveoov? What? the player who almost brought brood war to an end after dominating the scene too hard for an extended period of time? for like what 16 months? iloveoov is generally recognized as the fastest rising player and most dominant in his prime if you want consistency, go for nada Yes, and are you trying to tell me that 16 months is not a long period of time? Yes Nada is more consistent, no one was arguing about that. Flash's reign lasted 3 months - oov lasted 5 times that. U can't compare the past and present. In the early years there are little protoss and zerg powerhouses and some of the strats are not uncovered yet. Oov and nada dominated because they pioneered the macro game. Now everyone in top 30 KeSPA can macro and micro like them in the past. Definitely sc has become much more competitive. No one will stay long at No.1, the longest will be only 3 months due to OSL/MSL win. Just being able to build units is not what made Oov strong.. 80% of his victories that time and by plain outmacroing. Just like boxer, they gained dominance before everyone catch up. Kudos to them for pioneering and therefore be installed into lengendary status. But if they play using their past strengths now, they are overrated.
The reason why they were so dominant was because they innovated. Yes, oov at least had the past strength of outmacroing his opponents, but boxer has continually come back by innovating and changing the way sc bw is played again and again.
Why are people afraid of boxer, enthralled by boxer, love boxer, and watch every single one of his games? Because they expect him to innovate again, and show the world yet another strat that will lead to Terran domination.
Because they haven shown in the past to be innovative, it's hard to say that they are over rated. Same with flash- he found an innovation, executed better than everyone else, and rose to dominance until people figured out how to beat him (sometimes).
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