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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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Wow @ Fantasy.
Stork should be #1 soon.
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i've been missing out on sc a lot i don't even know who by fantasy is.
and FIVE protoss in top 10. Has that ever happen?
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On October 31 2008 18:14 gg_hertzz wrote:
i've been missing out on sc a lot i don't even know who by fantasy is.
and FIVE protoss in top 10. Has that ever happen?
Is the Stork hype that bad that people don't even know who he's playing?
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Woah Fantasy, is that the biggest jump ever?
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On October 31 2008 18:22 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Woah Fantasy, is that the biggest jump ever?
No, because in the same ranking,  type-b jumped from 84th to 43rd.
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Spenguin
Australia3316 Posts
no savior 
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MrHoon
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savior got ▽3, I thought he was owning 5-1 in PL
lol
21. (Z)GGPlay - Woongjin Stars 823.5 ▲7
He ranks higher than Savior then quits CJ.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On October 31 2008 18:29 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2008 18:22 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Woah Fantasy, is that the biggest jump ever? No, because in the same ranking, type-b jumped from 84th to 43rd. where do you find the complete list?
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On October 31 2008 18:37 Spenguin wrote:no savior
Saviors 27
Flash still no.1 yaya
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Katowice25012 Posts
Backho fell
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Is the Stork hype that bad that people don't even know who he's playing?
Stork had almost only hate from TL until the last week or so. Fantasy however has been getting love and hype all along.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On October 31 2008 19:26 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2008 18:29 motbob wrote:On October 31 2008 18:22 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Woah Fantasy, is that the biggest jump ever? No, because in the same ranking, type-b jumped from 84th to 43rd. where do you find the complete list?
Here it is. It's amazing how easy it is to navigate KeSPA's site using nothing but copy, paste, and Google Translate.
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Omg, finally. I thought Mind was going to be #6 like forever. His MSL win was like centuries ago, and he has done nothing worth mentioning since then. I still don't get how he has been up there for so long with poor individual league performance and limited PL playtime.
It's time for protoss domination era!
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is by.fantasy also pront fantasy and siz)fantasy?
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Woah, type-b, nice jump, haha.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On October 31 2008 19:52 RamenStyle wrote:
Omg, finally. I thought Mind was going to be #6 like forever. His MSL win was like centuries ago, and he has done nothing worth mentioning since then. I still don't get how he has been up there for so long with poor individual league performance and limited PL playtime.
It's time for protoss domination era!
yeah Honestly I feel the same thing happening to forgg
Except when forgg plays its fucking scary
WHY DOES HE HAVE SO MANY TANKS OH GOD
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
if stork 3:0's fantasy would stork be first? No idea how this point system works
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12 Much
26 Iris
27 Savior
u guys are better than that, comon start tearing shit up 
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JD only at 4 even thou he would ne favorite against any of the top 3.
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Flash hwaiting!!!
pls do better flash or else stork will be #1 next month. specially IF he wins tomorrow.
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HOW IS NADA NOT MOVING UP?!
He's in the quarterfinals of the MSL and he went to the grand final at blizzcon -_____-;
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On October 31 2008 21:45 Pulimuli wrote:
HOW IS NADA NOT MOVING UP?!
He's in the quarterfinals of the MSL and he went to the grand final at blizzcon -_____-;
blizzcon results ar not taken into consideration by kespa
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Sweden33719 Posts
On October 31 2008 20:01 gg_hertzz wrote:
is by.fantasy also pront fantasy and siz)fantasy?
Don't know about pro.nt_fantasy, but I'd assume he's Siz)Fantasy since By is an off-shoot branch of Siz (ie the clan sort of split, most went to By).
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On October 31 2008 22:13 FrozenArbiter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2008 20:01 gg_hertzz wrote:
is by.fantasy also pront fantasy and siz)fantasy? Don't know about pro.nt_fantasy, but I'd assume he's Siz)Fantasy since By is an off-shoot branch of Siz (ie the clan sort of split, most went to By).
Flash and Fantasy are clan members
huh, thats cool
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lol, didn't expect Flash to still be number 1.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On October 31 2008 22:28 meegrean wrote:
lol, didn't expect Flash to still be number 1.
well, he did have the shortest yet most dominant streak ever
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Can someone explain me how sAviOr has lost 3 positions, when in October he has won 5 out of 6 games¿¿???
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You know what's funny? Stork is 2nd at the moment. lol. Besides that, Nada going down, and Savior too. I just noticed that Sea is also dropping as well. :-\
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
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Flash and Stork fighting!!!!
Jaedong dieee, he has nice dance moves tho
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nooo savior fell. he will rise to 1 soon. SOOOON
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Pity for JD that he won GOM back when it wasn't kespa sanctioned..But anyway I think Stork will soon be #1 and deservedly so, this guy has probably had the highest winning % from 07 to now. At least in PL in 07-08, he was like 1 or 2% ahead of JD and at #1.
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United States47024 Posts
On October 31 2008 22:57 pR0gR4m3R wrote:
Can someone explain me how sAviOr has lost 3 positions, when in October he has won 5 out of 6 games¿¿???
Because his one loss was to a player better than any of his wins, but not good enough for the point change to be insignificant. The only person he beat that was close to him in ranking was Midas.
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feeling the lack of z players
anyone?
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2 (P)Stork Samsung KHAN 2097 + 1 + 770.2
11 (T)fantasy SK Telecom T1 1210.9 + 22 + 699.4
+ Show Spoiler +
Going to be one thrill ride of a final
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god savior is still falling
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On October 31 2008 22:45 MrHoon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2008 22:28 meegrean wrote:
lol, didn't expect Flash to still be number 1. well, he did have the shortest yet most dominant streak ever
wouldnt that be iloveoov?
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4. (Z)Jaedong - Lecaf Oz 1703.3 ▽2
=$
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Top 15 tell em 1 thing
Toss > All :D
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 01 2008 01:16 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2008 22:45 MrHoon wrote:On October 31 2008 22:28 meegrean wrote:
lol, didn't expect Flash to still be number 1. well, he did have the shortest yet most dominant streak ever wouldnt that be iloveoov? What? the player who almost brought brood war to an end after dominating the scene too hard for an extended period of time?
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
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kinda surprised jaedong dropped 2, then again he hasn't really done much compared to stork and best
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Where are all the zerg players? *cries himself to sleep*
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On November 01 2008 01:20 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 01:16 fusionsdf wrote:On October 31 2008 22:45 MrHoon wrote:On October 31 2008 22:28 meegrean wrote:
lol, didn't expect Flash to still be number 1. well, he did have the shortest yet most dominant streak ever wouldnt that be iloveoov? What? the player who almost brought brood war to an end after dominating the scene too hard for an extended period of time?
for like what 16 months?
iloveoov is generally recognized as the fastest rising player and most dominant in his prime
if you want consistency, go for nada
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bisu + 4
just a little more 
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On November 01 2008 02:04 inlagdsil wrote:
Where are all the zerg players? *cries himself to sleep*
There will be a few more in the top 20 soon enough. You just have to give effort and type-b time to get their rank up.
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On November 01 2008 00:26 NahLGaE wrote:
nooo savior fell. he will rise to 1 soon. SOOOON
He will rise to 1, okay? In 2009, thank you.
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On November 01 2008 02:08 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 01:20 Plexa wrote:On November 01 2008 01:16 fusionsdf wrote:On October 31 2008 22:45 MrHoon wrote:On October 31 2008 22:28 meegrean wrote:
lol, didn't expect Flash to still be number 1. well, he did have the shortest yet most dominant streak ever wouldnt that be iloveoov? What? the player who almost brought brood war to an end after dominating the scene too hard for an extended period of time? for like what 16 months? iloveoov is generally recognized as the fastest rising player and most dominant in his prime if you want consistency, go for nada
It is impossible to tell if oov would've been inconsistent or not. He retired when he saw himself going into a self-motived slump.
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Dark month for the Zerg hive.
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ggplay to woongjin? fuck you ggplay. TRAITOROUS BASTARD.
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United States17042 Posts
The protosses have gotten so good in comparison.
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Bisu youre doing great! keep it up.
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Stork will be number 1 next month.
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Strange how the top 10 players are evenly distributed among 5 teams.
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Interesting how all of the zerg players on the ranking are favorites of mine.
bias?
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
when july won the osl there were lik 4 zerg players at top 10
silly rabid zerg fans, stop being so greedy
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2008 best year of Protoss so far?
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On November 01 2008 15:50 Not_Computer wrote:
Interesting how all of the zerg players on the ranking are favorites of mine.
bias?
its hard for a non-top30 ranked zerg to be a part of your "FAVORITE TEAM" you know.
so under normal circumstances, your favorites would be in the top of the ranks. you wouldnt take a 100+ ranked player to be one of your favorite player right... UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES
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Stork #1 next list for sure.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 01 2008 02:08 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 01:20 Plexa wrote:On November 01 2008 01:16 fusionsdf wrote:On October 31 2008 22:45 MrHoon wrote:On October 31 2008 22:28 meegrean wrote:
lol, didn't expect Flash to still be number 1. well, he did have the shortest yet most dominant streak ever wouldnt that be iloveoov? What? the player who almost brought brood war to an end after dominating the scene too hard for an extended period of time? for like what 16 months? iloveoov is generally recognized as the fastest rising player and most dominant in his prime if you want consistency, go for nada Yes, and are you trying to tell me that 16 months is not a long period of time? Yes Nada is more consistent, no one was arguing about that. Flash's reign lasted 3 months - oov lasted 5 times that.
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stork will be no.1 next month as his OSL win is not counted. Both him and fantasy rise by almost the same no. of points, so Stork OSL win was never counted.
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On November 01 2008 22:19 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 02:08 fusionsdf wrote:On November 01 2008 01:20 Plexa wrote:On November 01 2008 01:16 fusionsdf wrote:On October 31 2008 22:45 MrHoon wrote:On October 31 2008 22:28 meegrean wrote:
lol, didn't expect Flash to still be number 1. well, he did have the shortest yet most dominant streak ever wouldnt that be iloveoov? What? the player who almost brought brood war to an end after dominating the scene too hard for an extended period of time? for like what 16 months? iloveoov is generally recognized as the fastest rising player and most dominant in his prime if you want consistency, go for nada Yes, and are you trying to tell me that 16 months is not a long period of time? Yes Nada is more consistent, no one was arguing about that. Flash's reign lasted 3 months - oov lasted 5 times that.
U can't compare the past and present. In the early years there are little protoss and zerg powerhouses and some of the strats are not uncovered yet. Oov and nada dominated because they pioneered the macro game. Now everyone in top 30 KeSPA can macro and micro like them in the past. Definitely sc has become much more competitive. No one will stay long at No.1, the longest will be only 3 months due to OSL/MSL win.
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Is parity good for professional sports? Check out the Phillies vs Rays ratings. Love them or hate them (please hate them), the Yankees in the World Series would've boosted those ratings significantly.
The Lakers in the finals last season made that series infintely more interesting than a Celtics vs Hornets finals except to maybe a basketball purist.
And the NY Giants beating the undefeated (at the time) cheaters New England Patriots made that superbowl great.
Sports needs heroes and villains because that's what fans like to see. I think SC is slowly losing that with one hit wonder starleague winners like Forgg and Mind (although I love Mind for what he did) and JD and Flash getting cheesed out of starleagues. And they are getting cheesed because there is so much parity that depending on map and positions, even the top players cannot afford to play too safe and that leaves them vulnerable to cheese.
Stork winning the OSL is a good thing for SC.
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Parity is good for organisers and money. More players will have chance to win against established players and that create more sponsership and profits. Due to the counter for every strat in sc, this will occur. No strat is safe to win forever. In order to dominate, they need variety and all-round play which Stork demonstrates. Despite protoss being the weakest race who are forced to be aggressive, he still can be so consistent in it.
Its not like Federer/Nadal in tennis where 1 style dominates all.
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On November 02 2008 16:58 Baddieko wrote:
Parity is good for organisers and money. More players will have chance to win against established players and that create more sponsership and profits. Due to the counter for every strat in sc, this will occur. No strat is safe to win forever. In order to dominate, they need variety and all-round play which Stork demonstrates. Despite protoss being the weakest race who are forced to be aggressive, he still can be so consistent in it. Look at savior or bisu, they were reliant on 1 build to win their titles and gone very fast because people are countering it.
Its not like Federer/Nadal in tennis where 1 style dominates all.
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Never before has kespa's flaws been so obvious THEY RANKED ROCK ABOVE SAVIOR
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How the hell is BackHo the 19th best player in the world?!
This ranking system clearly fails.
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On November 02 2008 16:09 Baddieko wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2008 22:19 Plexa wrote:On November 01 2008 02:08 fusionsdf wrote:On November 01 2008 01:20 Plexa wrote:On November 01 2008 01:16 fusionsdf wrote:On October 31 2008 22:45 MrHoon wrote:On October 31 2008 22:28 meegrean wrote:
lol, didn't expect Flash to still be number 1. well, he did have the shortest yet most dominant streak ever wouldnt that be iloveoov? What? the player who almost brought brood war to an end after dominating the scene too hard for an extended period of time? for like what 16 months? iloveoov is generally recognized as the fastest rising player and most dominant in his prime if you want consistency, go for nada Yes, and are you trying to tell me that 16 months is not a long period of time? Yes Nada is more consistent, no one was arguing about that. Flash's reign lasted 3 months - oov lasted 5 times that. U can't compare the past and present. In the early years there are little protoss and zerg powerhouses and some of the strats are not uncovered yet. Oov and nada dominated because they pioneered the macro game. Now everyone in top 30 KeSPA can macro and micro like them in the past. Definitely sc has become much more competitive. No one will stay long at No.1, the longest will be only 3 months due to OSL/MSL win.
Just being able to build units is not what made Oov strong..
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Stork will get first next month and Jaedong 3 with Best 2nd
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On November 03 2008 03:47 Railz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2008 16:09 Baddieko wrote:On November 01 2008 22:19 Plexa wrote:On November 01 2008 02:08 fusionsdf wrote:On November 01 2008 01:20 Plexa wrote:On November 01 2008 01:16 fusionsdf wrote:On October 31 2008 22:45 MrHoon wrote:On October 31 2008 22:28 meegrean wrote:
lol, didn't expect Flash to still be number 1. well, he did have the shortest yet most dominant streak ever wouldnt that be iloveoov? What? the player who almost brought brood war to an end after dominating the scene too hard for an extended period of time? for like what 16 months? iloveoov is generally recognized as the fastest rising player and most dominant in his prime if you want consistency, go for nada Yes, and are you trying to tell me that 16 months is not a long period of time? Yes Nada is more consistent, no one was arguing about that. Flash's reign lasted 3 months - oov lasted 5 times that. U can't compare the past and present. In the early years there are little protoss and zerg powerhouses and some of the strats are not uncovered yet. Oov and nada dominated because they pioneered the macro game. Now everyone in top 30 KeSPA can macro and micro like them in the past. Definitely sc has become much more competitive. No one will stay long at No.1, the longest will be only 3 months due to OSL/MSL win. Just being able to build units is not what made Oov strong..
90% of his victories that time is by plain outmacroing. Just like boxer, they gained dominance before everyone catch up.
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On November 04 2008 02:42 Baddieko wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2008 03:47 Railz wrote:On November 02 2008 16:09 Baddieko wrote:On November 01 2008 22:19 Plexa wrote:On November 01 2008 02:08 fusionsdf wrote:On November 01 2008 01:20 Plexa wrote:On November 01 2008 01:16 fusionsdf wrote:On October 31 2008 22:45 MrHoon wrote:On October 31 2008 22:28 meegrean wrote:
lol, didn't expect Flash to still be number 1. well, he did have the shortest yet most dominant streak ever wouldnt that be iloveoov? What? the player who almost brought brood war to an end after dominating the scene too hard for an extended period of time? for like what 16 months? iloveoov is generally recognized as the fastest rising player and most dominant in his prime if you want consistency, go for nada Yes, and are you trying to tell me that 16 months is not a long period of time? Yes Nada is more consistent, no one was arguing about that. Flash's reign lasted 3 months - oov lasted 5 times that. U can't compare the past and present. In the early years there are little protoss and zerg powerhouses and some of the strats are not uncovered yet. Oov and nada dominated because they pioneered the macro game. Now everyone in top 30 KeSPA can macro and micro like them in the past. Definitely sc has become much more competitive. No one will stay long at No.1, the longest will be only 3 months due to OSL/MSL win. Just being able to build units is not what made Oov strong.. 80% of his victories that time and by plain outmacroing. Just like boxer, they gained dominance before everyone catch up. Kudos to them for pioneering and therefore be installed into lengendary status. But if they play using their past strengths now, they are overrated.
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United States17042 Posts
On November 04 2008 02:44 Baddieko wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2008 02:42 Baddieko wrote:On November 03 2008 03:47 Railz wrote:On November 02 2008 16:09 Baddieko wrote:On November 01 2008 22:19 Plexa wrote:On November 01 2008 02:08 fusionsdf wrote:On November 01 2008 01:20 Plexa wrote:On November 01 2008 01:16 fusionsdf wrote:On October 31 2008 22:45 MrHoon wrote:On October 31 2008 22:28 meegrean wrote:
lol, didn't expect Flash to still be number 1. well, he did have the shortest yet most dominant streak ever wouldnt that be iloveoov? What? the player who almost brought brood war to an end after dominating the scene too hard for an extended period of time? for like what 16 months? iloveoov is generally recognized as the fastest rising player and most dominant in his prime if you want consistency, go for nada Yes, and are you trying to tell me that 16 months is not a long period of time? Yes Nada is more consistent, no one was arguing about that. Flash's reign lasted 3 months - oov lasted 5 times that. U can't compare the past and present. In the early years there are little protoss and zerg powerhouses and some of the strats are not uncovered yet. Oov and nada dominated because they pioneered the macro game. Now everyone in top 30 KeSPA can macro and micro like them in the past. Definitely sc has become much more competitive. No one will stay long at No.1, the longest will be only 3 months due to OSL/MSL win. Just being able to build units is not what made Oov strong.. 80% of his victories that time and by plain outmacroing. Just like boxer, they gained dominance before everyone catch up. Kudos to them for pioneering and therefore be installed into lengendary status. But if they play using their past strengths now, they are overrated.
The reason why they were so dominant was because they innovated. Yes, oov at least had the past strength of outmacroing his opponents, but boxer has continually come back by innovating and changing the way sc bw is played again and again.
Why are people afraid of boxer, enthralled by boxer, love boxer, and watch every single one of his games? Because they expect him to innovate again, and show the world yet another strat that will lead to Terran domination.
Because they haven shown in the past to be innovative, it's hard to say that they are over rated. Same with flash- he found an innovation, executed better than everyone else, and rose to dominance until people figured out how to beat him (sometimes).
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EPT
Flash is still #1, with 
Stork right behind him in terms of points.
