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On September 28 2008 08:42 Chill wrote:Er... what is this Visa nonsense? In some countries you need a Visa to visit another country? Everywhere I've ever been I just hopped on a plane with my passport and flew there. Forgive my ignorance.
thats because canadians are generally irrelevant
alot of nationalities need visas to get into most other countries. usa/canada/western europe dont need them for short term stays among each other as far as i know, and theres quite a few other exceptions.
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i heard strelok cannot make it due to visa problems.
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On September 28 2008 08:57 Raithed wrote:
i heard strelok cannot make it due to visa problems.
WOW SHOCKING NEWS
FUCKING BREAKING NEWS RIGHT HERE FOLKS
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Where did you hear that? On every major StarCraft website on the entire internet?
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Hey sick, sAviOr in a tournament! Yay!
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On September 28 2008 08:42 Chill wrote:
Er... what is this Visa nonsense? In some countries you need a Visa to visit another country? Everywhere I've ever been I just hopped on a plane with my passport and flew there. Forgive my ignorance.
Depends on what kind of agreement the two governments in question have made. US is pretty strict with this. But apparently you don't always need one. And since some EU countries don't need one I can now assume you also don't need one as a Canadian.
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On September 27 2008 18:33 HanN00b wrote:
Well you showed me once again that your name is not Skew, Idra or Nony but that you are one of the mannered americans. I apologize because my post was a bit too agressive. Maybe JF is the best foreigner atm (his reaver micro is simply amazing). But the last 3 years before were dominated by two european players. First Draco and then Mondragon. They were better as all the north american players at that time even better than Testie. I admit that it changed now because Idra has his korean training so he might be able to beat Draco and Mondi now, Nony became super strong especially in PvZ and JF won TSL. (Infact winning one tourney does not show to me who is the best, you have to judge the overall performance in all tournaments)
So what I generally critizize is the fact that teamliquid user tend to overrate the americans because they dont know the european scene too well. In addition guys like Idra or Nony seem very arrogant to me overrating themself (although they are good).
I think I expressed myself more clearly now without being so aggressive.
Thx for the friendly not flaming answer, although Nony and Idra might be more skilled atm, you are definitely my favourite north american player beside g5 and JF cause you guys behave like normal humans and not like flaming kids.
Overrate? It is more like underrate. Europe is not as strong as it use to be. It's not that they got worse, it's that other countries gotten better. North American powerhouses are emerging like JF, Idra, and NonY. Mondragon said that amateur Korean terran gives him a lot of trouble. Idra is a pro terran. Mondragon will have great difficulty taking a game from Idra's mechanics. Not to mention that NonY may soon be going to Korea.
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On September 27 2008 10:39 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2008 10:37 Boblion wrote:In 2005 Assem and Legionnaire were pros so they weren't "real" foreigners  . I guess that means IdrA isn't a real foreigner this year?
Somewhat in my opinion  .
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On September 28 2008 10:24 [X]Ken_D wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2008 18:33 HanN00b wrote:
Well you showed me once again that your name is not Skew, Idra or Nony but that you are one of the mannered americans. I apologize because my post was a bit too agressive. Maybe JF is the best foreigner atm (his reaver micro is simply amazing). But the last 3 years before were dominated by two european players. First Draco and then Mondragon. They were better as all the north american players at that time even better than Testie. I admit that it changed now because Idra has his korean training so he might be able to beat Draco and Mondi now, Nony became super strong especially in PvZ and JF won TSL. (Infact winning one tourney does not show to me who is the best, you have to judge the overall performance in all tournaments)
So what I generally critizize is the fact that teamliquid user tend to overrate the americans because they dont know the european scene too well. In addition guys like Idra or Nony seem very arrogant to me overrating themself (although they are good).
I think I expressed myself more clearly now without being so aggressive.
Thx for the friendly not flaming answer, although Nony and Idra might be more skilled atm, you are definitely my favourite north american player beside g5 and JF cause you guys behave like normal humans and not like flaming kids.
Overrate? It is more like underrate. Europe is not as strong as it use to be. It's not that they got worse, it's that other countries gotten better. North American powerhouses are emerging like JF, Idra, and NonY. Mondragon said that amateur Korean terran gives him a lot of trouble. Idra is a pro terran. Mondragon will have great difficulty taking a game from Idra's mechanics. Not to mention that NonY may soon be going to Korea.
As I said the americans get better but the last years were dominated by europe players. JF and Nony are great players. I cant judge about Idra. Before he went to Korea he wasnt that good. The top europeans would have easy won against him. After a few weeks in Korea, the top europeans WHite-Ra, draco (and believe me Mondragon too) were still stronger than Idra. I guess that has changed now from what I have heard, but I am not sure since I did not see a game.
North American players (Nony, JF, Idra) became really strong the last year and they are slightly the strongest now (Meaning that a bunch of european players is still capable to dominate them if they have a good day and americans a bad). But beside these three top players that still might lose usa would still lose a game USA vs Europe (without Russia) because the amount of good players that comes after the top players is much higher in Europe.
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On September 28 2008 18:37 HanN00b wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2008 10:24 [X]Ken_D wrote:On September 27 2008 18:33 HanN00b wrote:
Well you showed me once again that your name is not Skew, Idra or Nony but that you are one of the mannered americans. I apologize because my post was a bit too agressive. Maybe JF is the best foreigner atm (his reaver micro is simply amazing). But the last 3 years before were dominated by two european players. First Draco and then Mondragon. They were better as all the north american players at that time even better than Testie. I admit that it changed now because Idra has his korean training so he might be able to beat Draco and Mondi now, Nony became super strong especially in PvZ and JF won TSL. (Infact winning one tourney does not show to me who is the best, you have to judge the overall performance in all tournaments)
So what I generally critizize is the fact that teamliquid user tend to overrate the americans because they dont know the european scene too well. In addition guys like Idra or Nony seem very arrogant to me overrating themself (although they are good).
I think I expressed myself more clearly now without being so aggressive.
Thx for the friendly not flaming answer, although Nony and Idra might be more skilled atm, you are definitely my favourite north american player beside g5 and JF cause you guys behave like normal humans and not like flaming kids.
Overrate? It is more like underrate. Europe is not as strong as it use to be. It's not that they got worse, it's that other countries gotten better. North American powerhouses are emerging like JF, Idra, and NonY. Mondragon said that amateur Korean terran gives him a lot of trouble. Idra is a pro terran. Mondragon will have great difficulty taking a game from Idra's mechanics. Not to mention that NonY may soon be going to Korea. As I said the americans get better but the last years were dominated by europe players. JF and Nony are great players. I cant judge about Idra. Before he went to Korea he wasnt that good. The top europeans would have easy won against him. After a few weeks in Korea, the top europeans WHite-Ra, draco (and believe me Mondragon too) were still stronger than Idra. I guess that has changed now from what I have heard, but I am not sure since I did not see a game. North American players (Nony, JF, Idra) became really strong the last year and they are slightly the strongest now (Meaning that a bunch of european players is still capable to dominate them if they have a good day and americans a bad). But beside these three top players that still might lose usa would still lose a game USA vs Europe (without Russia) because the amount of good players that comes after the top players is much higher in Europe.
No offence or anything, but where are you pulling all of these "facts" from? You are like blindly stating soo many things, without any proof or backup. How can you make such statements without proof, and NOT come off hugely biased?.
Just curious.
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And its a fact that Mondi and Draco dominated every foreign player in their best time.
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top five foriegners are prolly in order
Draco
Idra
Mondragon
Nony
JF
Its a really big shame that two out of the top five wont be playing at wcg since usa has 1 spot and
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On September 28 2008 21:01 likeaboss wrote:
top five foriegners are prolly in order
Draco
Idra
Mondragon
Nony
JF
Its a really big shame that two out of the top five wont be playing at wcg since usa has 1 spot and
canada has 0
Well I actually think JF and Nony are definitely better than Mondi atm. And Idra is probably (at least I hope so for him) better than Draco.
You also forgot about Dreiven, Strelok and White-Ra they are nearly as good as nony, mondi and jf too.
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Mondragon still has a very strong ZvP even though he is not that active. I know that his game vs nony in tlattack wasn't that serious, but still. A bo5 with mondi and nony would make a realy close series.
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Wow those matchups look great, I can't wait for idra vs yellow.
Who the hell are dimaga and arew, never heard of them. Also where is dreiven on that list, did he quit or something?
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yeap... wrong thread alright... T_T
On-Topic: Send JianFei there ffs.
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