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On August 03 2008 04:31 Wasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2008 04:18 G5 wrote: I think Elo should be more respected then KeSPa but it isn't T.T Let's compare iloveoov and Nada. Nada has won more accomplishments than iloveoov, yet iloveoov has a higher ELO rank than him. This is because his domination was stronger than Nada's. Would you, however, say that iloveoov is better than Nada just because he has a higher ELO rank, but Nada has... a lot more 2nd place and one more OSL title than iloveoov?ELO is a good ranking system determining a player's actual winning statistics, but does not scale accomplishments adequately. During his prime, iloveoov was better than Nada. I'd say an on-form oov was more dominant than an on-form Nada. However, Nada has the somewhat better career*, iloveoov had the greater peak.... kinda like Tim Duncan vs Hakeem Olajuwon.
* Nada's advantage is mostly due to career length and the symbolic Golden Mouse. Oov was able to capture the "career slam" by winning proleague and WCG, which Nada has never won.
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The light that burns twice as bright burns for half as long - and iloveoov has burned so very, very brightly. Some people value domination and skill, others value the bottom line. Oov has been excellent in both. Oov has led his team to Proleague victories and has won a WCG; which evens out Nada's extra OSL.
Stork is a very skilled player, but also a choker ._. and a bit unlucky.
P&C didn't win the Grand Final Otherwise, you would be counting 4 SKT1 victories vs 1 P&C. Still an advantage in PL.
edit: Winning WCG/WCG Korea is still an accomplishment, whether it counts for Kespa or not. I maintain that Nada and Oov's career accomplishments are comparable. You can weigh it in Nada's favor or Oov's.
Oov was more dominant and achieved more in a 2.5 year window. Nada deserves credit for longer career and getting out of the big slump, winning the Golden Mouse.
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United States5262 Posts
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Flash JD 4 point rivalry.
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thedeadhaji
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:O:O how is rumble higher than midas~~~ I guess his ogn qualifier games counted for some points?
I'm rather perplexed X_X
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The top 7 Kespas are monsters , the others are meh ...
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i would say that top 10 are such a monsters and the rest are still waaay better than foreigners .... and thats sad gogo Flash !!! :D
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United States10774 Posts
On August 03 2008 05:22 Sinedd wrote:i would say that top 10 are such a monsters and the rest are still waaay better than foreigners .... and thats sad  gogo Flash !!! :D
edited: nvm, misread.
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On August 03 2008 05:05 thedeadhaji wrote: :O:O how is rumble higher than midas~~~ I guess his ogn qualifier games counted for some points?
I'm rather perplexed X_X
Rumble's a quality 2v2 player and 2v2 points are actually worth quite a bit. I know Flower/Justin made waaayyy up there (like 20th) just by virtue of their 2v2 games. But Midas is looking pretty good lately, I'm sure he'll make it back up there soon.
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LOL for GG just popped outta nowhere it seems to me. I am suprised Bisu is still up so high though. FBH is so low....what happened? He was on fire a bit back. Heh, too bad for yellow, I guess luxury just got the better sc genes xD
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Yeah, Forgg just exploded in the rankings and flash is still 1 even though he's seemed pretty human lately
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On August 03 2008 06:38 NexyNexy wrote: LOL for GG just popped outta nowhere it seems to me. I am suprised Bisu is still up so high though. FBH is so low....what happened? He was on fire a bit back. Heh, too bad for yellow, I guess luxury just got the better sc genes xD
Yeah i expected firebathero to be around 20 but not 25 thats to low imo. He has looked great in proleague but i guess since proleagues over and he wasnt in either tournament. I guess inactivity can hurt you a bit in the ranks. I definetly expect him to climb when the tournaments/proleague get going again.
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Forgg and July both made huge jumps
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those are some big movers in the top ten
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Savior's still better than Firebathero!!!
AAAHHHHH!!!!
Yeah, I just need something to scream about right now~
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
there is not enough red on that list.
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Lol, at the almost 700points difference between the 2nd and the 3rd ones .
Flash is still number 1 and so it will be .
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