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zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-02 19:40:49
August 02 2008 19:36 GMT
#61
On August 03 2008 04:31 Wasabi wrote:
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On August 03 2008 04:18 G5 wrote:
I think Elo should be more respected then KeSPa but it isn't T.T


Let's compare iloveoov and Nada. Nada has won more accomplishments than iloveoov, yet iloveoov has a higher ELO rank than him. This is because his domination was stronger than Nada's. Would you, however, say that iloveoov is better than Nada just because he has a higher ELO rank, but Nada has... a lot more 2nd place and one more OSL title than iloveoov?

ELO is a good ranking system determining a player's actual winning statistics, but does not scale accomplishments adequately.

During his prime, iloveoov was better than Nada. I'd say an on-form oov was more dominant than an on-form Nada. However, Nada has the somewhat better career*, iloveoov had the greater peak.... kinda like Tim Duncan vs Hakeem Olajuwon.

* Nada's advantage is mostly due to career length and the symbolic Golden Mouse. Oov was able to capture the "career slam" by winning proleague and WCG, which Nada has never won.
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-02 19:48:52
August 02 2008 19:42 GMT
#62
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Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-02 19:53:16
August 02 2008 19:50 GMT
#63
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zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-02 20:10:38
August 02 2008 19:52 GMT
#64
The light that burns twice as bright burns for half as long - and iloveoov has burned so very, very brightly. Some people value domination and skill, others value the bottom line. Oov has been excellent in both. Oov has led his team to Proleague victories and has won a WCG; which evens out Nada's extra OSL.

Stork is a very skilled player, but also a choker ._. and a bit unlucky.

P&C didn't win the Grand Final Otherwise, you would be counting 4 SKT1 victories vs 1 P&C. Still an advantage in PL.

edit: Winning WCG/WCG Korea is still an accomplishment, whether it counts for Kespa or not. I maintain that Nada and Oov's career accomplishments are comparable. You can weigh it in Nada's favor or Oov's.

Oov was more dominant and achieved more in a 2.5 year window. Nada deserves credit for longer career and getting out of the big slump, winning the Golden Mouse.
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
August 02 2008 19:52 GMT
#65
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
August 02 2008 20:01 GMT
#66
Flash JD 4 point rivalry.
Peace~
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-02 20:06:16
August 02 2008 20:02 GMT
#67
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 02 2008 20:05 GMT
#68
:O:O how is rumble higher than midas~~~
I guess his ogn qualifier games counted for some points?

I'm rather perplexed X_X
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-02 20:19:32
August 02 2008 20:17 GMT
#69
The top 7 Kespas are monsters , the others are meh ...
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
August 02 2008 20:22 GMT
#70
i would say that top 10 are such a monsters and the rest are still waaay better than foreigners .... and thats sad gogo Flash !!! :D
T H C makes ppl happy
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-02 20:59:56
August 02 2008 20:59 GMT
#71
On August 03 2008 05:22 Sinedd wrote:
i would say that top 10 are such a monsters and the rest are still waaay better than foreigners .... and thats sad gogo Flash !!! :D


edited: nvm, misread.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
August 02 2008 21:07 GMT
#72
On August 03 2008 05:05 thedeadhaji wrote:
:O:O how is rumble higher than midas~~~
I guess his ogn qualifier games counted for some points?

I'm rather perplexed X_X



Rumble's a quality 2v2 player and 2v2 points are actually worth quite a bit. I know Flower/Justin made waaayyy up there (like 20th) just by virtue of their 2v2 games. But Midas is looking pretty good lately, I'm sure he'll make it back up there soon.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
NexyNexy
Profile Joined July 2008
34 Posts
August 02 2008 21:38 GMT
#73
LOL for GG just popped outta nowhere it seems to me. I am suprised Bisu is still up so high though. FBH is so low....what happened? He was on fire a bit back. Heh, too bad for yellow, I guess luxury just got the better sc genes xD
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
August 02 2008 21:58 GMT
#74
Yeah, Forgg just exploded in the rankings and flash is still 1 even though he's seemed pretty human lately
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
August 02 2008 22:12 GMT
#75
On August 03 2008 06:38 NexyNexy wrote:
LOL for GG just popped outta nowhere it seems to me. I am suprised Bisu is still up so high though. FBH is so low....what happened? He was on fire a bit back. Heh, too bad for yellow, I guess luxury just got the better sc genes xD


Yeah i expected firebathero to be around 20 but not 25 thats to low imo. He has looked great in proleague but i guess since proleagues over and he wasnt in either tournament. I guess inactivity can hurt you a bit in the ranks. I definetly expect him to climb when the tournaments/proleague get going again.
OMG you nasty gurl
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-08 07:57:48
August 08 2008 07:56 GMT
#76
Forgg and July both made huge jumps
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useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
August 08 2008 08:11 GMT
#77
those are some big movers in the top ten
Moonlight Shadow
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
August 08 2008 08:16 GMT
#78
Savior's still better than Firebathero!!!

AAAHHHHH!!!!

Yeah, I just need something to scream about right now~
this is my quote.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 08 2008 08:19 GMT
#79
there is not enough red on that list.
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
August 08 2008 10:28 GMT
#80
Lol, at the almost 700points difference between the 2nd and the 3rd ones .

Flash is still number 1 and so it will be .
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