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United States7488 Posts
Banner by KizZBGGomTV S4 MSL Bracket Contest
February 2
UrASofty fell out of grand prize contention with the loss of Hwasin. He did manage to get all seven other predictions correct though, a feat shared only by Alethios who predicted July to defeat UpMagic. 11 Others managed to get six out of eight predictions correct.
On the other end of the spectrum, everyone at least managed to get one correct pick, so no one's bracket was a complete zero. Only one person missed as many as seven, who I won't call out directly.
Here are your current top contenders for the mensrea No-Prize:
7pts UrASofty
7pts Alethios
6pts AceVentura
6pts Camlito
6pts CrAwLinG[F2F]
6pts Enrique
6pts iloveHieu
6pts Jonoman92
6pts melch
6pts Motiva
6pts Naib
6pts Pressure
6pts Seraphim
+ Show Spoiler [complete list of scores] +.kaz 4
3nickma 4
AceVentura 6
Aepplet 5
Aesop 4
Alethios 7
alfrex 2
Alventenie 3
amorpheus 2
ATeddyBear 2
atmablade 4
Avius 5
azndsh 4
Barbarne 2
blagoonga123 5
Blind 4
BreakEnter 4
Burned Toast 5
Byyk 4
Caller 3
Camlito 6
Carefree Me 5
Carnac 2
city42 5
CrAwLinG[F2F] 6
Darkmole 4
datscilly 3
Day[9] 4
demonic_phate 2
Diggity 4
diggurd 5
donAtortugo 4
DTF-ZeRo 5
Elgar 3
Enrique 6
eyeballball3 3
f10esqftw 4
FakeSteve[TPR] 2
Felagund 4
Gaetele 4
GeneralStan 5
Gillias 5
goldenkrnboi 3
GTR-2-Go 4
Honk2000 1
Hot_Bid 3
humblegar 3
Hyperionnn 4
Ido 4
ii.blitzkrieg 4
iloveHieu 6
InFiNitY[pG] 5
ItchReliever 4
J_J777 3
JIJI 3
Jonoman92 6
JoxxOr 5
Kacas 4
kaisr 5
Kennigit 5
kNyTTyM 4
kramus 4
ktp 4
lakrismamma 3
Last Romantic 4
last)Immortal 2
Live2Win 5
lmaonnaise 4
LosingID8 5
lostman 4
Luddite 4
Macavenger 3
melch 6
Motiva 6
MTF 4
Muirhead 4
MyCrow 4
Naib 6
NeoIllusions 2
NonY[rC] 5
pachi 3
PeAcY6969 4
PeanutButterJelly 5
phlamez 5
Piste 5
Plexa 3
Plovez 4
poilord 5
powerpuffboy 5
Pressure 6
Pyrthas 4
QibingZero 3
R1CH 3
raiame 4
Roffles 5
sanftm00d 3
SayTT 3
Seraphim 6
ShaLLoW[baY] 5
Simplistik 5
Snipinpanda 4
SoMuchBetter 5
SonuvBob 2
Sourdough 4
stalife 4
SUSUGAM 2
TaDa1. 2
taeru 4
TarsTarkas 4
teamsolid 4
TinaTurner 4
Titusmaster6 3
Trias 5
trollbone 5
UrASofty 7
VioleTAK 2
Vomified 3
WingSandrockX 3
Wizard 4
wkJUNG88 4
ZBiR 3
ZergZoul 3
January 31
The first half of the Round of Sixteen has been decided. With the upset of Sea's loss, only twenty brackets were left in contention for the grand prize. When Kal won, the correct brackets were reduced down to eleven. Jangbi's win only eliminated three more participants. However, after the completion of the fourth game, only one brackets remains.
UrASofty correctly predicted Light, Kal, JangBi and UpMagic to advance out of the round of sixteen. He will be cheering on Jaedong, Hwasin, Nada and Mind to advance on February 2nd.
Sixteen others managed to guess three out of four correct choices. While twenty-two of you scored a whopping zero points from the first four matches. Four out of four matches turned out to be upsets as less than half of you correctly predicted any one outcome.
I'll be back to update on February 2nd to see if UrASofty is still in contention to take my money. I will also post everyone's scores up to that point and have a look at the standings for the mensrea No-Prize.
January 24
Submissions will no longer be accepted. There are 122 people with brackets submitted for the contest.
Of the 122 Entrants, nearly half (60) predicted Jaedong to be the GomTV S4 MSL Champion. Anytime had the second most with 16.
110 of you picked Jaedong to beat Luxury in the Round of 16, the largest range of any of the eight matchups.
Hwasin and Flash was the closest of the Round of 16 matchups with 58-64 in favor of Flash.
Orion was the only player no one predicted to be the champion. Shine, Jangbi and Luxury were each picked only once.
January 22
The Rules:
Edit this nicely made bracket (thanks pachi!), put it on an image hosting site, and PM it to me before the MSL Ro16 Week1 this Thursday (Jan 24). I am only considering ones I get via PM, so even if you post it here, you must PM your official entry to me. Each person only gets one entry, and once I get your bracket via PM your entry is final.
If someone gets the bracket completely right, you will win $100. This doesn't happen often (actually nobody has ever gotten one entirely right), so kudos to you if you make it happen. In the event of a tie, tiebreaker rules will be added if and when they need to be applied. After the Round of Sixteen I will determine whether or not a tie is possible and determine where to go from there.
Thanks to Hot_Bid for the format from last season.
I will also be participating to defend my $100. This is my bracket:
+ Show Spoiler +
PLEASE BE SURE TO SEND VIA PM. I will not count those posted only in the thread
The most accurate bracket will be determined this way:
Ro16 - 1 point
Ro8 - 2 points
Semis - 4 points
Finals - 8 points
The most accurate will get fame, fortune and women (or men) and the extremely coveted mensrea No-Prize.
Good Luck!
+ Show Spoiler [Participants] +.kaz
3nickma
AceVentura
Aepplet
Aesop
Alethios
alfrex
Alventenie
amorpheus
ATeddyBear
atmablade
Avius
azndsh
Barbarne
blagoonga123
Blind
BreakEnter
Burned Toast
Byyk
Caller
Camlito
Carefree Me
Carnac
city42
CrAwLinG[F2F]
Darkmole
datscilly
Day[9]
demonic_phate
Diggity
diggurd
donAtortugo
DTF-ZeRo
Elgar
Enrique
eyeballball3
f10esqftw
FakeSteve[TPR]
Felagund
Gaetele
GeneralStan
Gillias
goldenkrnboi
GTR-2-Go
Honk2000
Hot_Bid
humblegar
Hyperionnn
Ido
ii.blitzkrieg
iloveHieu
InFiNitY[pG]
ItchReliever
J_J777
JIJI
Jonoman92
JoxxOr
Kacas
kaisr
Kennigit
kNyTTyM
kramus
ktp
lakrismamma
Last Romantic
last)Immortal
Live2Win
lmaonnaise
LosingID8
lostman
Luddite
Macavenger
melch
Motiva
Muirhead
MTF
MyCrow
Naib
NeoIllusions
NonY[rC]
pachi
PeAcY6969
PeanutButterJelly
phlamez
Piste
Plexa
Plovez
poilord
powerpuffboy
Pressure
Pyrthas
QibingZero
R1CH
raiame
Roffles
sanftm00d
SayTT
Seraphim
ShaLLoW[baY]
Simplistik
Snipinpanda
SoMuchBetter
SonuvBob
Sourdough
stalife
SUSUGAM
TaDa1.
taeru
TarsTarkas
teamsolid
TinaTurner
Titusmaster6
Trias
trollbone
UrASofty
VioleTAK
Vomified
WingSandrockX
Wizard
wkJUNG88
ZBiR
ZergZoul
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Hungary11291 Posts
yay, was hoping for that. Thx alot semioldguy.
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w00t. Let the game begin.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
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no offense but your grid looks almost absurd imo !
lets see :-P
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United States7488 Posts
On January 22 2008 06:20 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
no offense but your grid looks almost absurd imo !
lets see :-P
None taken. I'm pretty sure it is absurd, but there are likely going to be upsets somewhere. There are players I predicted to lose that I would rather win.
I do stand by my bracket though. I like it and will not be convinced that it should have been different.
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Do they play for the 3rd spot?
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uhhh can some1 tell me the link for me to put the picture? cuz i wanna post it :D and PM i guess
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JangBi is gonna show you all and get to the semi's.
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On January 22 2008 07:40 Piste wrote:
Do they play for the 3rd spot?
no
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CA10828 Posts
i had kal beat sea just to spite fakesteve 
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Interestingly, Mind > Shine is the only completely unanimous vote among all these brackets.
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On January 22 2008 08:15 triangle wrote:
Interestingly, Mind > Shine is the only completely unanimous vote among all these brackets.
well Mind beat Shine 2 times in MSL Group before (i think it was on the group) well i saw it on TLPD and Mind beat him twice so yea :D
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Osaka27148 Posts
On January 22 2008 07:45 Darkmole wrote:
uhhh can some1 tell me the link for me to put the picture? cuz i wanna post it :D and PM i guess
uhh... right click, save picture as?
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United States7488 Posts
On January 22 2008 08:03 fusionsdf wrote:
... I see what you did there :p
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Sorry for being a noob but how do you post pictures from your hdd?
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On January 22 2008 09:00 kNyTTyM wrote:are you guys trying to compete with Fakesteve for the weirdest bracket or are you just zerg players?
Yeah I'm not sure how I ended up with a zvz final, but whatever. It wasn't intentional! But some of the choices I made, like Kwanro beating Kal, seem highly unlikely to me, so I guess there's a little bit of Fakesteve in there.
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On January 22 2008 09:10 garoth wrote:
Sorry for being a noob but how do you post pictures from your hdd?
http://imageshack.us/
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Haha...hahaha... I hope I win :O
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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Melbourne5338 Posts
On January 22 2008 08:15 triangle wrote:
Interestingly, Mind > Shine is the only completely unanimous vote among all these brackets.
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United States7488 Posts
BTW... props to everyone who remembers the image tag in their PM! Also plz don't resend them if you didn't.
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do we need match scores as well?
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Hopefully this format is ok, i'd already made it when this thread was created... Really should have gone with the exact opposite of what i want to happen.. probably would win me that $100
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Nada scrapes out a win over Jaedong, and Jaedong narrowly manages a 3-2 win in an epic series with none other than Jaedong
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United States7488 Posts
Match scores are not necessary for submitting.
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Nahhh, I already stated that Kal would win. 
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/delurk
Why not ?
GL HF !
Cheers,
Gil.
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free hopes of champions for each race:
if Terran: NaDa
if Protoss: Anytime
if Zerg: Jaedong
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I spent the better part of a couple hours working up these predictions, so you can laugh at them that much harder when they're completely wrong 
+ Show Spoiler [My Bracket] +
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On January 22 2008 09:20 Pyrthas wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2008 09:00 kNyTTyM wrote:are you guys trying to compete with Fakesteve for the weirdest bracket or are you just zerg players? Yeah I'm not sure how I ended up with a zvz final, but whatever. It wasn't intentional! But some of the choices I made, like Kwanro beating Kal, seem highly unlikely to me, so I guess there's a little bit of Fakesteve in there.
O I actually meant making your bracket look freakin insane
example
+ Show Spoiler +
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OMG I laughed my ass off....!!
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On January 22 2008 13:00 GeneralStan wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Nada scrapes out a win over Jaedong, and Jaedong narrowly manages a 3-2 win in an epic series with none other than Jaedong
(spoiler added)
OMG I laughed my ass off again...
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 22 2008 10:10 datscilly wrote:
i like i like!!
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is awesome32274 Posts
I'm going to make some bullshit prediction so i get a different bracket.
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I'm copying it from the other thread:
lol semioldguy you almost stole my bracket ;>
upmagic will fail you though
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Just gambling, and I really want AnyTime to win ;D
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Hungary11291 Posts
So far no other entries predicting Jangbi to pull through. *insane snicker*
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On January 23 2008 00:39 Aesop wrote:
So far no other entries predicting Jangbi to pull through. *insane snicker*
Orion is so strong ... lol
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Hungary11291 Posts
On January 23 2008 00:49 amorpheus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2008 00:39 Aesop wrote:
So far no other entries predicting Jangbi to pull through. *insane snicker* Orion is so strong ... lol
not only against him, for the title!
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well put it here let us see it
lol July beating Sea will be very very nice ...
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Screw stats. Vote from the heart! <3
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On January 22 2008 16:56 kNyTTyM wrote:
O I actually meant making your bracket look freakin insane
Oh that yeah well okay I'll shut up then...
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United States20661 Posts
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Ok lets go through this step by step.
Logic dictates that Jaedong is the best player in this grouping and therefore he should take the entire thing. Therefore he won't... not unless he already won an MSL. We must apply the pure reason of insanity to clearly visualize this bracket.
There needs to be a less than quality player going into the round of 8 (the 910 rule) and an old favorite that doesn't quite make it.
Orion covers the 910 rule. I think he is half decent but I dont think he is top 8 in this grouping.
Anytime will probably cover the old favorite rule.
That leaves the Jaedong upset to luxury flash or hwasin. Logic says Luxury is the most likely therefore inevitably it will be hwasin.
Hwasin will fill the up down let down role this season filled in the past by Savior, Nal_ra etc. Basically he will look like he has a shot and then dump out in the round of 4.
Mind isn't expect to win therefore he will take the title for a 2nd time.
Therefore it is all too clear
Champ: Mind
Final: July Mind
Round of 4:
Mind Hwasin
July Kwanro
Round of 8:
Jaedong Hwasin
Light Kwanro
Anytime Mind
Orion July
If I was using logic though I would go with Last Romantics bracket but have Orion over Jangbi and Mind over Shine
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Who is Pachi? Is he a graphic designer by trade, or something? It seems like he's always making graphics for TL, and they're always awesome.
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Russian Federation83 Posts
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On January 23 2008 05:20 Diggity wrote:
Ok lets go through this step by step.
Logic dictates that Jaedong is the best player in this grouping and therefore he should take the entire thing. Therefore he won't... not unless he already won an MSL. We must apply the pure reason of insanity to clearly visualize this bracket.
There needs to be a less than quality player going into the round of 8 (the 910 rule) and an old favorite that doesn't quite make it.
Orion covers the 910 rule. I think he is half decent but I dont think he is top 8 in this grouping.
Anytime will probably cover the old favorite rule.
That leaves the Jaedong upset to luxury flash or hwasin. Logic says Luxury is the most likely therefore inevitably it will be hwasin.
Hwasin will fill the up down let down role this season filled in the past by Savior, Nal_ra etc. Basically he will look like he has a shot and then dump out in the round of 4.
Mind isn't expect to win therefore he will take the title for a 2nd time.
Therefore it is all too clear
Champ: Mind
Final: July Mind
Round of 4:
Mind Hwasin
July Kwanro
Round of 8:
Jaedong Hwasin
Light Kwanro
Anytime Mind
Orion July
If I was using logic though I would go with Last Romantics bracket but have Orion over Jangbi and Mind over Shine
Diggity, your logic is impeccable and hilarious!
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kind of random, but what's the possibility of getting this thing right? I assume it's: (1/16)(1/8)(1/4)(1/2) = 1/1024 yes?
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HonestTea
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I won't get into details, but Anytime wins the whole thing
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lol Ace would disagree with you instantly, for me my bet was on Nada.
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well u know wat i kidna think? there has to be a new bonjwa rite? since bisu lost on group stage i think mind is the next bonjwa so im saying mind is gonna win this no matter wat :D
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I don't really care who wins just as long as the finals is Sea vs. Jaedong.
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I usually put a lot of effort into these things. And usually fail horribly. No-effort ftw:
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 23 2008 05:20 Diggity wrote:
Ok lets go through this step by step.
Logic dictates that Jaedong is the best player in this grouping and therefore he should take the entire thing. Therefore he won't... not unless he already won an MSL. We must apply the pure reason of insanity to clearly visualize this bracket.
There needs to be a less than quality player going into the round of 8 (the 910 rule) and an old favorite that doesn't quite make it.
Orion covers the 910 rule. I think he is half decent but I dont think he is top 8 in this grouping.
Anytime will probably cover the old favorite rule.
That leaves the Jaedong upset to luxury flash or hwasin. Logic says Luxury is the most likely therefore inevitably it will be hwasin.
Hwasin will fill the up down let down role this season filled in the past by Savior, Nal_ra etc. Basically he will look like he has a shot and then dump out in the round of 4.
Mind isn't expect to win therefore he will take the title for a 2nd time.
Therefore it is all too clear
Champ: Mind
Final: July Mind
Round of 4:
Mind Hwasin
July Kwanro
Round of 8:
Jaedong Hwasin
Light Kwanro
Anytime Mind
Orion July
If I was using logic though I would go with Last Romantics bracket but have Orion over Jangbi and Mind over Shine
Ah, one flaw in your logic diggity
You forgot to factor in the possibility of a 'transfer process' ala Stout MSL and YATGK MSL which must mean that Nada must lose in the final
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On January 23 2008 05:20 Diggity wrote:
That leaves the Jaedong upset to luxury flash or hwasin. Logic says Luxury is the most likely therefore inevitably it will be hwasin.
Funny as hell, but what say you about the chances of Kal? According to your logic, and I apologize for asking this because you have presented your thoughts in a very clear manner, shouldn't Kal be the upset winner?
I don't know why I'm so personally drawn to Kal. I don't know what he looks like, I can barely spell his name, yet I'm banking on him to make the finals. Yeesh, destiny it seems to me.
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Burned Toast
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Do I need flawless reasoning for this bracket? No, I really don't think so. That said, I'm psyched for it. UpMagiC Fighting!
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On January 23 2008 12:27 iloveHieu wrote:
kind of random, but what's the possibility of getting this thing right? I assume it's: (1/16)(1/8)(1/4)(1/2) = 1/1024 yes?
Well, using the assumption that each player has a 50% chance of winning each match, which isn't strictly accurate but is the way such things are usually calculated, and they way you appear to be trying to do it, it's actually 1 / ((2^8)(2^4)(2^2)(2^1)) = 1 / 2^15 = 1/32768.
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United States7488 Posts
There is just a little more than ten hours to go before submissions close. So get in your predictions if you haven't already.
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SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE
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On January 23 2008 14:28 Macavenger wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2008 12:27 iloveHieu wrote:
kind of random, but what's the possibility of getting this thing right? I assume it's: (1/16)(1/8)(1/4)(1/2) = 1/1024 yes? Well, using the assumption that each player has a 50% chance of winning each match, which isn't strictly accurate but is the way such things are usually calculated, and they way you appear to be trying to do it, it's actually 1 / ((2^8)(2^4)(2^2)(2^1)) = 1 / 2^15 = 1/32768.
32768 sounds like a lot than it actually is to me, oh well~
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United States10774 Posts
WHY THE FUCK DO FLASH AND HWASIN HAVE TO GO AGAINST EACH OTHER
GOD
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United States7488 Posts
submissions will no longer be accepted
there are 122 entrants.
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On January 22 2008 05:45 semioldguy wrote:
Orion was the only player no one predicted to be the champion.
Well, at least that clears up who's going to win. All hail Orion, MSL champ-to-be!
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so scary both JD and Lux are 10-2 in their last 12 ZvZ's Ughh
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Hungary11291 Posts
So, anyone going 8 / 8 in the first games and confident in his bracket becoming true?
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On January 29 2008 20:33 Aesop wrote:
So, anyone going 8 / 8 in the first games and confident in his bracket becoming true?
6/8, why did i go against sea and up T.T.
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7/8 orion plzz dont deceive me !!!!
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6/8 the zergs need to beat the protosses
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8/8, I will laugh when I see Kal in the finals as I predicted in my bracket
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On January 29 2008 20:33 Aesop wrote:
So, anyone going 8 / 8 in the first games and confident in his bracket becoming true?
I missed this post, yes, I'm very confident in mine
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United States7488 Posts
On January 29 2008 20:33 Aesop wrote:
So, anyone going 8 / 8 in the first games and confident in his bracket becoming true?
Two people were 8/8, but of course that would change if every match didn't go to the winner of game one. There will be eliminations tonight and we shall see how many remain after the first half of the Round of 16.
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United States7488 Posts
Tonight's results destroyed you guys!
Updated the OP with what went down.
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Melbourne5338 Posts
hes so screwed, NaDa is doomed 
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Oh my why did i vote july... damnit.
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WARNING Maths here:
For the first four choices the total possible permutations are 2^4 which is 16.
Out of 122 Team Liquid members only ONE gets the first four.
If you gave the draw to 122 monkeys and asked them to fill it in (obviously you'd have to give them a quick MSpaint lesson first) about 8 would get the first four right.
Therefore TeamLiquid < + Show Spoiler +
Btw the chance of anyone getting the full table right is 1 in 131,072.
Semioldguy knows he can play this game for a Loooooooong time 
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United States7488 Posts
That's, of course, assuming 50/50 chances for every match which isn't always the case.
Yes, it's extremely unlikely, but I wouldn't mind if someone could get one right. I hope it happens someday, that'd be amazing. Or even to just get the first round right would be a first.
Almost any other outcome for the night's games would have produced more correct brackets. There was at least one bracket for each of the sixteen possible combinations for the first night.
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On January 31 2008 21:31 pachi wrote:hes so screwed, NaDa is doomed
wow, he predicted nada!? did UrASofty get 8 out of 8 right?
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Beginned 0/4, now 3/7 lol.
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On January 22 2008 05:45 semioldguy wrote:I will also be participating to defend my $100. This is my bracket:
Everyone who beats you gets $100, right?
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United States7488 Posts
On February 02 2008 16:15 SonuvBob wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2008 05:45 semioldguy wrote:I will also be participating to defend my $100. This is my bracket: Everyone who beats you gets $100, right?
Eh... my bracket was made to throw people off. That's my story and I'm sticking to it :p
Since my money is secure though, I'll probably do one for the OSL too. Hopefully someone will be be able to take my money then.
Also updated OP
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Mine was done on a series of random whims, and STILL the monkeys would do better than me. =/
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JoxxOr 5, orion, luxury and kwanro... I hate zergs
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emm...y so few people predicted NaDa?...he is like coming back into his prime now from his slope...i think he has a big chance in winning this msl
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I think the winner of Nada/Mind will win the whole thing. Well I hope at least Please Nada.
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