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GGplay's terrifying defiler defence

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My_Digital_Toss *
Profile Joined December 2004
Korea (South)267 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-22 04:30:46
January 21 2008 02:39 GMT
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HF!!!!!!!!!!!
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
January 21 2008 02:42 GMT
#2
Gogo MDT!!!
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
January 21 2008 02:43 GMT
#3
=D thanks MDT

why 'terrible' though?
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 21 2008 02:43 GMT
#4
that was very very good, so many swarms and gosu plague
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
January 21 2008 02:53 GMT
#5
Wow what a coincidence

+ Show Spoiler +
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Gaetele
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Esper760 Posts
January 21 2008 02:53 GMT
#6
... terrible is the last word for that.
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Avius
Profile Joined October 2007
Iraq1796 Posts
January 21 2008 02:58 GMT
#7
terrible maybe as in fearsome or something
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Gpax300
Profile Joined May 2006
Thailand27 Posts
January 21 2008 03:00 GMT
#8
lol @ FBH pic.
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
January 21 2008 03:06 GMT
#9
hahah the carlton picture made me lol.
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CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
January 21 2008 03:14 GMT
#10
terrible as in terrifying probably lol
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
January 21 2008 03:25 GMT
#11
No longer available omg
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
January 21 2008 03:26 GMT
#12
thanks. <3

On January 21 2008 11:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
that was very very good, so many swarms and gosu plague


read title.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 21 2008 03:33 GMT
#13
Im getting the private video thin again and its making me so sad

guess I have to wait
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Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
January 21 2008 03:52 GMT
#14
Is terrific the right word?

I was hoping to see some bad mistakes
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Profile Joined October 2007
Canada679 Posts
January 21 2008 04:04 GMT
#15
toss girl in USA flag top....
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Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
January 21 2008 04:04 GMT
#16
Who is the guy with the extremely huge, round glasses?

o.O
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Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
January 21 2008 04:07 GMT
#17
Terrible because it took him like 10 minutes to kill 12 marines.

And people criticize me when I say GGPlay shouldn't have won that OSL..

P.S. Reuploaded:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYXlW0LM87U
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Gaetele
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Esper760 Posts
January 21 2008 04:15 GMT
#18
One, it hardly took 10 minutes to take out those 12 Marines.

Two, IriS is the damn Berserker Terran, he does whatever the hell he wants when he attacks.

Three, a majority of the time IriS was in his base, he was huddled in the corner unable to attack because of the Lurkers. That's defence.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
January 21 2008 04:38 GMT
#19
terrible also means as in ivan the terrible, to be feared lol
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Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
January 21 2008 04:46 GMT
#20
On January 21 2008 13:15 Gaetele wrote:
One, it hardly took 10 minutes to take out those 12 Marines.

Two, IriS is the damn Berserker Terran, he does whatever the hell he wants when he attacks.

Three, a majority of the time IriS was in his base, he was huddled in the corner unable to attack because of the Lurkers. That's defence.


Oh really? It wasn't 10 minutes? I must have misread the timestamps... or I must have been exaggerating
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Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
January 21 2008 04:51 GMT
#21
wondering how was that so horrible? Iris had to keep on backing out away from the swarm and couldnt do anything until it went away. explanation plz
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
January 21 2008 04:51 GMT
#22
ggplay's terribly good defiler defence -_-)b
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
January 21 2008 04:52 GMT
#23
he must have meant 'terrifying'
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
January 21 2008 04:54 GMT
#24
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InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
January 21 2008 04:57 GMT
#25
That was some nice defiler usage right thur
w/e
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
January 21 2008 05:13 GMT
#26
On January 21 2008 13:07 f10esqftw wrote:
Terrible because it took him like 10 minutes to kill 12 marines.

And people criticize me when I say GGPlay shouldn't have won that OSL..

qflol
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maditalian
Profile Joined November 2007
United States29 Posts
January 21 2008 05:17 GMT
#27
This defense was definitely terrible news for Iris.
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ShcShc
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada912 Posts
January 21 2008 05:18 GMT
#28
TERRIBLE
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 21 2008 05:20 GMT
#29
On January 21 2008 13:52 Zelniq wrote:
he must have meant 'terrifying'



Still grammatically correct, like "Ivan the Terrible".

Holy shit that was amazing though.
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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
January 21 2008 05:23 GMT
#30
I'm sitting here waiting for him to plague his own units and swarm same spot 3 times lol.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 21 2008 05:27 GMT
#31
On January 21 2008 13:07 f10esqftw wrote:
Terrible because it took him like 10 minutes to kill 12 marines.

And people criticize me when I say GGPlay shouldn't have won that OSL..

P.S. Reuploaded:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYXlW0LM87U


I'm being nice, from what you and diggity come off as on Teamliquid I think you guys should stop doing commentaries but I fully understand your passion and respect the energy and work you guys have put in, but I doubt anyone is learning from them.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 21 2008 05:28 GMT
#32
a meaner post, so if you were commentating that game and you saw that you would've been like ggplay with some terrible micro, taking ages to kill iris' marines? If so then just rofl
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
January 21 2008 05:34 GMT
#33
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 21 2008 05:41 GMT
#34
its nothing personal
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
January 21 2008 05:48 GMT
#35
On January 21 2008 13:46 f10esqftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2008 13:15 Gaetele wrote:
One, it hardly took 10 minutes to take out those 12 Marines.

Two, IriS is the damn Berserker Terran, he does whatever the hell he wants when he attacks.

Three, a majority of the time IriS was in his base, he was huddled in the corner unable to attack because of the Lurkers. That's defence.


Oh really? It wasn't 10 minutes? I must have misread the timestamps... or I must have been exaggerating

Maybe you were wrong?
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ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
January 21 2008 05:49 GMT
#36
Man that GGPlay is such a phony!
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noobienoob
Profile Joined July 2007
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-21 05:56:59
January 21 2008 05:52 GMT
#37
Wow that was terrible GGPlay is a noob!!
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
January 21 2008 06:19 GMT
#38
Didn't look that terrible to me...
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
January 21 2008 06:26 GMT
#39
the funny thing is, the announcer who is the most vocal for all of that is sooo wrong, he's saying how ggplay is in such a bad situation and not noticing at all that ggplay defended his expo perfectly -_-
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 21 2008 06:29 GMT
#40
well he was in a pretty bad situation because iris made it up the ramp to ggplay's only expo and couldve caused as much damage as he wanted to
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13005 Posts
January 21 2008 06:33 GMT
#41
Can people explain how GGplay didn't deserve that OSL?

To come back the way he did vs Iris was so clutch. That game on HH one of the best pressure games of BW you'll ever see.
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Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
January 21 2008 06:36 GMT
#42
What a joke, this was insane. Iris is awesome with his marine micro, and he did jack crap vs GGplay. He owned him, what would you have done? Lost.
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noobienoob
Profile Joined July 2007
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-21 06:38:02
January 21 2008 06:37 GMT
#43
On January 21 2008 15:36 Quesadilla wrote:
What a joke, this was insane. Iris is awesome with his marine micro, and he did jack crap vs GGplay. He owned him, what would you have done? Lost.
Yep, most other zergs would've gotten COMPLETELY run over by taht berserker attack
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
January 21 2008 06:37 GMT
#44
man iris is always the victim of gosu swarms isn't he
LazySCV
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
United States2942 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-21 07:00:35
January 21 2008 06:55 GMT
#45
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mjh
Profile Joined November 2007
United States133 Posts
January 21 2008 07:02 GMT
#46
jeez guys, "terrible" is sarcastic...as some posters have already noted


that was pretty amazing
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
January 21 2008 07:10 GMT
#47
I think MDT's limited knowledge of the English language made him mis-represent what he meant to say. Probably ment terrifying or maybe something else that makes sense in Korean.
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
January 21 2008 07:13 GMT
#48
It's funny how just over a minute can seem like ten.
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
January 21 2008 07:16 GMT
#49
MDT on a roll
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noobienoob
Profile Joined July 2007
United States1173 Posts
January 21 2008 07:16 GMT
#50
Pretty sure Moletrap was being sarcastic... go read his post again.
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-21 08:13:11
January 21 2008 08:02 GMT
#51
On January 21 2008 16:02 mjh wrote:
jeez guys, "terrible" is sarcastic...as some posters have already noted


that was pretty amazing


Lots of people in this post apparently don't get sarcasm.

Edit:

Rephrase: It's hard not to take that personally, Zulu. I don't know how you decided this was the thread to mention it, anyway. And I'd like to see you find someplace where I said I was trying to teach anyone.

TBH I suspect you're one of the tons of people that have seen like 5 seconds of one of my vids and decides to randomly flame for some random thing.
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Diggity
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States806 Posts
January 21 2008 08:18 GMT
#52
I'm being nice, from what you and diggity come off as on Teamliquid I think you guys should stop doing commentaries but I fully understand your passion and respect the energy and work you guys have put in, but I doubt anyone is learning from them.


yea put too much time in it. no one is learning anything

done
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-21 08:24:01
January 21 2008 08:21 GMT
#53
P.S. You're welcome for uploading the vid so people could watch it without downloading the hires.

On January 21 2008 15:33 RowdierBob wrote:
Can people explain how GGplay didn't deserve that OSL?

To come back the way he did vs Iris was so clutch. That game on HH one of the best pressure games of BW you'll ever see.


Actually I was originally referring to the fact that I actually didn't think that GGPlay should have won that OSL. But that's because I thought Iris had it in the bag but then folded towards the end of game 5, letting his vessels get killed pretty carelessly and stuff. It was a good comeback but I think it was Iris throwing it away. It's been a while, though, so I could be remembering it wrong, but I seem to recall that being my feeling at the time.
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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
January 21 2008 09:33 GMT
#54
Lots of Romanians in this thread
Well I have a question
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JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
January 21 2008 10:17 GMT
#55
The word is probably "terrific" because MDT wrote "Good defence" under the vid and I doubt he is one to be all ironic.

I remember that game though, and I can't describe how much I dislike dark swarm and zerg
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13005 Posts
January 21 2008 10:26 GMT
#56
Could you imagine how horribly imba zvt without swarms would be?

How'd they do it back in the day? -___-
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dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
January 21 2008 10:42 GMT
#57
is that lilsusie?

i will have to say that was some vigorous defence by GGPlay although things really didnt go his way.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
January 21 2008 10:53 GMT
#58
Whahahahahaha FBH
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Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
January 21 2008 11:00 GMT
#59
LOL @ the FBH pic.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 21 2008 12:03 GMT
#60
On January 21 2008 20:00 IntoTheWow wrote:
LOL @ the FBH pic.

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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6177 Posts
January 21 2008 12:31 GMT
#61
Terrible defence indeed! :DD

Hey, what is "optical wheel mouse" ?
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Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
January 21 2008 13:21 GMT
#62
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 21 2008 14:58 GMT
#63
On January 21 2008 17:02 f10esqftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2008 16:02 mjh wrote:
jeez guys, "terrible" is sarcastic...as some posters have already noted


that was pretty amazing


Lots of people in this post apparently don't get sarcasm.

Edit:

Rephrase: It's hard not to take that personally, Zulu. I don't know how you decided this was the thread to mention it, anyway. And I'd like to see you find someplace where I said I was trying to teach anyone.

TBH I suspect you're one of the tons of people that have seen like 5 seconds of one of my vids and decides to randomly flame for some random thing.


Moletrap, from posting on forums and watching your commentaries, I highly doubt you were being sarcastic. Right after I posted that, as people on IRC can attest to, I immediately dug up you + diggity + klazart's triple commentary on the bisu vs jaedong blue storm game. I wanted to pick a good example to see if I was wrong to flame you guys or not. I've watched two previous games where both of you commentate before the bisu/jaedong one, because I thought Baezzi and VioletTak were the same person and you guys took his account. Anyways, I know that this is only one game, but I've created a list of the things you guys said that I disagree with. Klazart talked the most of course but he was only doing play by play for the most part while you and Diggity provided the color commentary/insight.


Ok I was gonna make a list but there was gonna be like 100 things so I'm not gonna bother. My position on your commentaries is this, I commend you guys for taking the time and effort to make English commentaries and doing something for the community, however as commentators you guys do not provide much insight and are plain wrong most of the time. What I'm worried about is if someone tried to learn from watching you guys provide insight that person will probably learn some pretty damaging stuff to his fundamentals. But as long as the audience know to take what you guys say with a grain of salt it's okay.


abandonallhope
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Sweden563 Posts
January 21 2008 15:21 GMT
#64
How is that good defense when he had to use like 8 swarms to get the terran out of there?
noobienoob
Profile Joined July 2007
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-21 15:55:09
January 21 2008 15:42 GMT
#65
The fact that he did it with like one defiler? Okay that's an exaggeration but GGPlay barely had any units, yet managed to hold back and eventually eliminate that huge force, and with minimal casualties. The circumstances behind the game only make the play more admirable (it was done during the final round of an OSL final).

I feel bad at how much this thread has derailed just because of the title.. =/
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Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
January 21 2008 15:46 GMT
#66
awesome as always!!
thanks MDT !
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Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
January 21 2008 18:13 GMT
#67
I'm allways impressed how defiler usage evolved over the last years. I mean it's one thing to just pre-load a defiler and then move in but under pressure with a terran moving around on stim like a madman and vessels all over the place.

I remember a game where a zerg consumed his overlord with lurkers in it. Shit doesn't happen every day but at some point it's like marine micro, one mistake and you probably get ripped apart.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
January 21 2008 18:19 GMT
#68
terrific!
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
January 21 2008 18:34 GMT
#69
On January 22 2008 00:21 abandonallhope wrote:
How is that good defense when he had to use like 8 swarms to get the terran out of there?


He didn't lose much. Who cares how long it takes?
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davidgurt
Profile Joined September 2006
United States1355 Posts
January 21 2008 19:30 GMT
#70
On January 21 2008 15:26 Waxangel wrote:
the funny thing is, the announcer who is the most vocal for all of that is sooo wrong, he's saying how ggplay is in such a bad situation and not noticing at all that ggplay defended his expo perfectly -_-


Agreed. I absolutely can't stand any of the American shoutcasters. I think they do a piss poor job because you can obviously tell that they don't understand the game as well as the vets here on TL.
There's crashing?
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
January 21 2008 20:04 GMT
#71
On January 21 2008 23:58 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2008 17:02 f10esqftw wrote:
On January 21 2008 16:02 mjh wrote:
jeez guys, "terrible" is sarcastic...as some posters have already noted


that was pretty amazing


Lots of people in this post apparently don't get sarcasm.

Edit:

Rephrase: It's hard not to take that personally, Zulu. I don't know how you decided this was the thread to mention it, anyway. And I'd like to see you find someplace where I said I was trying to teach anyone.

TBH I suspect you're one of the tons of people that have seen like 5 seconds of one of my vids and decides to randomly flame for some random thing.


Moletrap, from posting on forums and watching your commentaries, I highly doubt you were being sarcastic. Right after I posted that, as people on IRC can attest to, I immediately dug up you + diggity + klazart's triple commentary on the bisu vs jaedong blue storm game. I wanted to pick a good example to see if I was wrong to flame you guys or not. I've watched two previous games where both of you commentate before the bisu/jaedong one, because I thought Baezzi and VioletTak were the same person and you guys took his account. Anyways, I know that this is only one game, but I've created a list of the things you guys said that I disagree with. Klazart talked the most of course but he was only doing play by play for the most part while you and Diggity provided the color commentary/insight.


Ok I was gonna make a list but there was gonna be like 100 things so I'm not gonna bother. My position on your commentaries is this, I commend you guys for taking the time and effort to make English commentaries and doing something for the community, however as commentators you guys do not provide much insight and are plain wrong most of the time. What I'm worried about is if someone tried to learn from watching you guys provide insight that person will probably learn some pretty damaging stuff to his fundamentals. But as long as the audience know to take what you guys say with a grain of salt it's okay.




Okay, again going back I already said that my thing about GGPlay not deserving the OSL title was because it was a twist on my actual feeling, which is that he won because Iris folded and stopped playing at his peak part way through the last game. And TBH I was just trying to come up with a way that the play could be interpreted as "terrible." I thought it was exciting and I probably would have commented on both players dodging around each other.

I honestly don't have time to type a full blown disagreement with you, but I'll just say I think you're wrong. I'm honestly right a lot of the time. If you're going back several months, yes, I was a noob, but I'm not sure what forum posts you might be thinking of these days. And you know what else? When I'm commentating and I'm not sure about something, I usually say so..

I think a lot of people have things stuck in their head too much about how things are. They have lost sight of the fact that in starcraft, anything can happen.

You still haven't told me where you got the idea I was trying to teach anyone anything.
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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
January 21 2008 20:14 GMT
#72
I thought it was pretty good defense actually, with the plagues and all.
ray1234
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada679 Posts
January 21 2008 20:38 GMT
#73
whoa dudes... sc is about peace and love... stop all tis hatin
go OVERSKY MODE!
abandonallhope
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Sweden563 Posts
January 21 2008 21:43 GMT
#74
On January 22 2008 03:34 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2008 00:21 abandonallhope wrote:
How is that good defense when he had to use like 8 swarms to get the terran out of there?


He didn't lose much. Who cares how long it takes?


I don't know actually. But what I mean is that he could probably have kept that terran out of that expo with like 2-3 well placed swarms instead of like 6-7. But yeah, it worked out for him so I guess it was good.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-21 21:51:31
January 21 2008 21:51 GMT
#75
On January 22 2008 06:43 abandonallhope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2008 03:34 Chill wrote:
On January 22 2008 00:21 abandonallhope wrote:
How is that good defense when he had to use like 8 swarms to get the terran out of there?


He didn't lose much. Who cares how long it takes?


I don't know actually. But what I mean is that he could probably have kept that terran out of that expo with like 2-3 well placed swarms instead of like 6-7. But yeah, it worked out for him so I guess it was good.


Care to elaborate? Most of the swarms looked properly placed to me, it's just he had so few units there's no way to force Terran to stand and fight rathter than constantly running.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13005 Posts
January 21 2008 22:37 GMT
#76
GGplay defended that attack beautifully.

Anyone who thinks otherwise just doesn't understand how difficult it is to defend a situation like that...
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
January 22 2008 04:34 GMT
#77
I edited the title because I think it was just a simple mistake.

zulu vs diggity + moletrap may continue in blogs or via PM.

Thank you.
ModeratorGodfather
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-22 04:38:19
January 22 2008 04:38 GMT
#78
That was awesome; pure art. I went and rewatched the game. Thanks mdt.
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
January 22 2008 04:49 GMT
#79
this thread is pretty good cuz it seperates the people who actually know whats happening in a game, and the people who dont know wats happening at all and get easily misguided by a simple title.

terrible defence. indeed.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
January 22 2008 04:51 GMT
#80
Seriously. Hannibal the Terrible didn't suck at kicking ass.
ModeratorGodfather
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 22 2008 06:46 GMT
#81
flame war isnt a flame war when contained to pm, but i will stop cuz its not a real flame war but just a general disagreement
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
January 22 2008 07:15 GMT
#82
That was the most epik usage of defylah I've ever seen.
But GGPlay's epik defylah micro was even better vs Shudder on Katrina ! (/sarcasm)
@KawaiiRiceLighT
vhallee
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
899 Posts
January 22 2008 08:06 GMT
#83
ah ggplay cmon man he was ridiculed like a bnet newb :/
Marijuana causes amnesia and other things I don't remember.
Diggity
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States806 Posts
January 22 2008 08:34 GMT
#84
Chiming back on subject. I think GGplay has the best deflier and muta micro in the game right now.

Unfortunately his macro hasn't been stunningly fast to get a good muta harass off and most opponents end the game before any defilers are out on the field.
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2528 Posts
January 22 2008 08:36 GMT
#85
On January 22 2008 17:34 Diggity wrote:
Chiming back on subject. I think GGplay has the best deflier and muta micro in the game right now.

Unfortunately his macro hasn't been stunningly fast to get a good muta harass off and most opponents end the game before any defilers are out on the field.
I agree about ggplay's defiler use and general hive tech play being top-notch. I think the only other zerg who can compete with him in terms of hive play is Savior. For muta micro though, there are at least a few other zergs who are better. Jaedong, Kwanro, and Yarnc have better mutalisk micro in my opinion, and other zergs like Savior and July match ggplay.
Diggity
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States806 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-22 09:05:52
January 22 2008 09:05 GMT
#86
Jaedong definitely has awesome muta micro. Kwanro's is good but I havent seen anything astounding. I have to say his ling micro is great though. Yarnc seems solid to me all around but not outstanding in muta micro.

July had jaw dropping muta micro once upon a time but I havent seen in awhile.

You have to wait a bit for it but here is a bit of what I am talking about

http://teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/7853_GGPlay_vs_Shudder/vod

GGplay v Shudder (ggplay ends up losing this match)
7:25-~9

With 8 booster upgraded goths chasing, he still manages to take out 11 SCVs (one of which was building tech) and a mine.


I dont know a lot of other players that would even attempt harassing at that point
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