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angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
71 Posts
August 01 2023 08:08 GMT
#161
These are super fun groups. Group B looks like a good show. Group C looks hilariously easy for Snow. Group D looks the most lethal. Shoutout to iVory who made it through qualifiers for the first time in his life only to find himself immediately in the company of Bisu, Stork and Rush.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey850 Posts
August 01 2023 08:10 GMT
#162
Interesting line ups. Both challenging and exciting.
vtv.Teacher
Profile Joined August 2019
Thailand39 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-01 09:11:09
August 01 2023 09:09 GMT
#163
My picks:

A: Soma (Z) - Mong (T) ----- (Yeah I think Mong is gonna cause an upset and top Mini in that group)
B: Soulkey (Z) - Rain (P)
C: Snow (P) - Royal (T)
D: Light (T) - Action (Z)
E: Queen (Z) - Sharp (T)
F: Rush (T) - Bisu (P) ----- (hard to pick here between Bisu & Stork -- I'll go with Bisu though)
vtv.Teacher
Profile Joined August 2019
Thailand39 Posts
August 01 2023 09:28 GMT
#164
Does anyone have any informations about ivOry?

The way he beat Soma in the qualifier during day 1 was quite impressive (esp game 2 where he just literally stomped him out).

EnZo-
Profile Joined August 2023
1 Post
August 01 2023 12:29 GMT
#165
Is there any way to get the replays or vods from the qualifiers of ASL?
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
August 01 2023 12:58 GMT
#166
anything can happen in a bo1 unfortunately...

A: Mini / Soma - Mong much inferior to the favorites but good enough to pull off a bo1 upset, Mong's weak bio might make Soma the tougher matchup

B: Soulkey / Rain - I can actually see Calm pulling of the ZvZ upset vs Soulkey but besides that Soulkey and Rain are heavily favored in a soft group

C: Snow / Royal - soft group for the favorites

D: Light / Action - group of death but Light should be favored against the Zergs and a relatively weak P in Free. Action edges out Effort (but I am rooting for Effort)

E: Queen / JD - I generally root for Sharp but he has shown nothing for several ASLs in a row. Sharp's TvZ is his worst matchup and his once great TvT has been underwhelming in recent times. Clear case of putting strongest tier 3 w the weakest tier 2

F: Rush / Bisu - Rush gets an "easier" group than Light, but has to face 2 formidable Protoss that can take him out in a bo1. Ivory should be fodder
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova279 Posts
August 01 2023 13:44 GMT
#167
ASL16ChampionAction
or
ASL16ChampionBest

gogo
Subscribe to my YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Sonic_md...."SC:BW it is just game, but i love this game!" (c)Sonic_md.
vtv.Teacher
Profile Joined August 2019
Thailand39 Posts
August 01 2023 14:22 GMT
#168
On August 01 2023 21:29 EnZo- wrote:
Is there any way to get the replays or vods from the qualifiers of ASL?


https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/105228243
https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/105265147

Right here -- enjoy!
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States402 Posts
August 01 2023 16:37 GMT
#169
Rn I'm mostly going with T1/T2s, but gotta acknowledge group D is kind of a tossup, especially if Flash was talking to Action (and maybe sharing some novel strategies). Very excited about the Ro24 this time! Hope the new maps allow some wacky strats to appear.

A - Mini / Soma
B - Rain / SK
C - Snow / Royal
D - Light / Effort
E - JD / Sharp
F - Rush / Bisu
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
August 01 2023 17:49 GMT
#170
This season is just insanely stacked, even if some of the competitors are a little rusty. Like all of these could be Ro16 groups. A few Ro16 Group A, but still.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4298 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-01 18:00:05
August 01 2023 17:58 GMT
#171
such a shame that ro24 is still bo1..

ugh
Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova279 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-01 19:08:49
August 01 2023 19:06 GMT
#172
In every new ASL draw since seasons 2-3, I always support the player rotation at least at the semi-final stage. If you look at all the players who have never (!) been in the finals and at least were in the semi-finals, I am rooting for those.
That's why I support these players: Jaedong, Best, Bisu, SoulKey, Action.

I think these legendary players deserve to play at least in the final. It's even surprising that none of them played in the final in 15 ASL seasons. Therefore, I am for this 5.
Subscribe to my YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Sonic_md...."SC:BW it is just game, but i love this game!" (c)Sonic_md.
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-02 11:26:47
August 02 2023 11:24 GMT
#173
On August 01 2023 15:54 TMNT wrote:
[image loading]

Some brutal groups. As I said, tier 1 and tier 2 players going home after the first round is to be expected.


A:
Mini/Soma > Mong > Leta. Mong can upset if he's in peak condition but seems unlikely.

B:
Rain/Soulkey >>> Calm/Sea. Big gap between top 2 and bottom 2. Pretty much set in stone.

C:
Snow > RoyaL > Shuttle > Killer. Snow and Royal seems guaranteed but both Killer and Shuttle are capable of upsetting this group. Weird group that will have upsets but based on statistics Snow and Royal should roll this.

D:
Light > Action/Effort > Free. Light seems favored but Action and Effort have the potential to take Light out. Free seems shaky in his consistency. Good form Free can upset either Action or Effort, but he's clearly the weakest in this group. Group of death?

E:
Queen/Jaedong > Sharp > Ample. Last season, Ample was with Soma, Mind and Best(who went to semi-finals and finals) which was in hindsight arguably the strongest group in ASL15. Ample upset Soma and he's capable of upsetting either Queen or Jaedong with TvZ being his best. I don't see Ample upsetting Sharp however. Sharp seems stronger in TvT. Sharp is capable of taking Jaedong or Queen if he doesn't choke. I am calling this group for upsets.

D:
Bisu/Rush >> Stork >> Ivory. Saw some sponmatches with Ivory and he doesn't seem to be on he same level. He has good early all in play but Bisu and Rush are both strong against that. There's potential for Ivory to upset stork, but neither Stork or Ivory can take on Bisu or Rush.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3385 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-02 12:31:15
August 02 2023 12:30 GMT
#174
On August 02 2023 20:24 RJBTV wrote:
D:
Bisu/Rush >> Stork >> Ivory. Saw some sponmatches with Ivory and he doesn't seem to be on he same level. He has good early all in play but Bisu and Rush are both strong against that. There's potential for Ivory to upset stork, but neither Stork or Ivory can take on Bisu or Rush.

Bisu is in general the better player (much better) compared to Stork. But in PvP I feel like you can't say anything unless it's Best playing. The skill gap between players seem to be blurred the most in PvP among all match-ups, if you know what I mean. For example if you compare Bisu's PvT and PvZ to someone like Shuttle, it's day and night, but if you look at the head to head record, Bisu only won 2 out of 3 times vs Shuttle, which means in a BO1 Shuttle can eliminate Bisu quite easily. Same for Stork.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1143 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-02 17:55:21
August 02 2023 13:29 GMT
#175
One thing is for sure, Stork cannot complain about his group. Far from being a Stork fan myself, but i see him reaching RO16 a good % with that group. (~35%)

- I cannot believe that, in 2023, people still believe in Sharp. Hes on pace to reach the Movie tier quite soon.

Group A is definately the funniest group. Fun players, and everyone has a shot to advance. I am quite impressed about Leta lately. I dont count him out.

Also, poor shuttle. RO16 has to wait again, it looks like.

.

Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
August 02 2023 14:13 GMT
#176
> Ivory beats Rush
> Ivory beats Bisu
> Enraged Bisu fan rushes the stage and rips off Ivory’s mask
> It’s MustacheZerg
May the BeSt man win.
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
August 02 2023 16:12 GMT
#177
On August 02 2023 21:30 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2023 20:24 RJBTV wrote:
D:
Bisu/Rush >> Stork >> Ivory. Saw some sponmatches with Ivory and he doesn't seem to be on he same level. He has good early all in play but Bisu and Rush are both strong against that. There's potential for Ivory to upset stork, but neither Stork or Ivory can take on Bisu or Rush.

Bisu is in general the better player (much better) compared to Stork. But in PvP I feel like you can't say anything unless it's Best playing. The skill gap between players seem to be blurred the most in PvP among all match-ups, if you know what I mean. For example if you compare Bisu's PvT and PvZ to someone like Shuttle, it's day and night, but if you look at the head to head record, Bisu only won 2 out of 3 times vs Shuttle, which means in a BO1 Shuttle can eliminate Bisu quite easily. Same for Stork.

3 games is a very small sample size though. But you are right. The fewer the amount of games to be played, the higher the upset potential.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
August 02 2023 17:40 GMT
#178
It's only round of 24 and I'm seeing so many groups of death! Ro16 gonna be crazy.
sunbeams are never made like me...
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1718 Posts
August 02 2023 17:50 GMT
#179
RAIN IS FUCKING BACK LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

IM SO HAPPY

ASL SEASON 16 CHAMPION RAIN

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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
August 02 2023 19:12 GMT
#180
On August 01 2023 18:28 vtv.Teacher wrote:
Does anyone have any informations about ivOry?

The way he beat Soma in the qualifier during day 1 was quite impressive (esp game 2 where he just literally stomped him out).



I think I never thought of any zerg ever of being amazing or impressive for winning a ZvZ (rofl)
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