• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:24
CEST 05:24
KST 12:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star7Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced52026 GSL Tour plans announced14Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid23
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions Data needed BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1864 users

ASL Season 16 starts August 14th - Page 7

Forum Index > BW General
206 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 11 Next All
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6867 Posts
July 29 2023 10:19 GMT
#121
Effort is back!!!! holy this season gonna be so dope.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey779 Posts
July 29 2023 10:51 GMT
#122
Happy to see Rain,Effort and Stork.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50844 Posts
July 29 2023 11:27 GMT
#123
On July 29 2023 12:53 TMNT wrote:
Lmao Calm lost his first qualifier game against Chaelyn the female Zerg player. Gonna be the butt of the joke for years.


oh boy this will be fun to write about.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
ateriavia
Profile Joined September 2022
2 Posts
July 29 2023 11:56 GMT
#124
sea's group was rigged lol
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4250 Posts
July 29 2023 12:06 GMT
#125
Great looking lineup!

Makes me wish for 3 ASL seasons per year even more..

Hope for some sick games. Protoss FIGHTING!
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1112 Posts
July 29 2023 12:48 GMT
#126
Once again, Sharp "stole" a spot. Happy to see Free though, will miss action
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey779 Posts
July 29 2023 12:56 GMT
#127
[image loading]

TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1112 Posts
July 29 2023 13:01 GMT
#128
And super happy to see Killer. Hope he find some motivation, guy is gifted and entertaining also
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3147 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-29 13:14:54
July 29 2023 13:09 GMT
#129
Expect at least 4 out of 6 groups to be groups of death lol.
Wouldn't be surprised if some tier 1 players go home after the first round.

Btw how nice a distribution we have this time? Tier 1 2 3 all have 2P 2T 2Z
angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
65 Posts
July 29 2023 13:21 GMT
#130
Sad about Shine and sSak not making it - two of the most fun and unusual players to watch in my opinion.
Ruin must have been really stressed to let Calm of all people ling-flood him twice, also a bummer.
Having Ample instead of Barracks feels strange.
A newcomer like Ivory is always a nice surprise.and of course with Rain, Sea and Effort we're in for a show.

Still feels like a Protoss season somehow which is good to me.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3147 Posts
July 29 2023 13:27 GMT
#131
On July 29 2023 20:56 ateriavia wrote:
sea's group was rigged lol

Not really. Now that I saw Sea's ASL points that put him in tier 3, it makes total sense.

It seems like the ASL pts accumulated by a player does not disappear over time, or the counting period is very long, unlike in other sports where it's only counted for the last few years. In Sea's group, Horang2 is the top seed since he played many ASLs before with decent results. If you look up the other groups, it's hard to find a player with better coefficient than him.

So maybe we can make a case for Sea to be deliberately put in the group with the weakest (inactive) seed, but it could also be totally his luck.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3691 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-29 13:49:39
July 29 2023 13:48 GMT
#132
No Flash, no Fantasy, feelsbadman.
On the other hand having Rain and Effort is absolutely amazing! Gonna be a sick season for sure.
Sea being back after such a long time is also awesome to see, his finals vs flash was some great tvt, esp the battlecruiser game.

Crazy how stacked these qualifiers still are after all those years. Could start ASL with a Ro64 and still have an amazing lineup of players.
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-29 14:34:37
July 29 2023 14:34 GMT
#133
The line-up is reminiscent of the early ASL seasons. Groups were awesome overall. Effort's group was criminally understacked though.

Ivory, Leta, Calm and Sea seem to be the weakest four players based on online performance over the past year. Actually got nothing to base Ivory's online performance on because he's that much of an unexpected "low tier" qualifier that I can't find any data anywhere...

Ample, Free, Killer seem to be the next in line skill wise followed by Stork, Mong, Sharp and Shuttle. After that most players are all very close in skill to each other until you get to Snow who has been extremely dominant in online play. But Online is different from on stage. At this point in time Snow seems to be favored along with Light and Soma, Maybe HerO. But as last season showed anything can happen.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8669 Posts
July 29 2023 14:54 GMT
#134
On July 29 2023 22:48 Lorch wrote:
No Flash, no Fantasy, feelsbadman.
On the other hand having Rain and Effort is absolutely amazing! Gonna be a sick season for sure.
Sea being back after such a long time is also awesome to see, his finals vs flash was some great tvt, esp the battlecruiser game.

Crazy how stacked these qualifiers still are after all those years. Could start ASL with a Ro64 and still have an amazing lineup of players.

+1 Lorch !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1019 Posts
July 29 2023 20:29 GMT
#135
This is an insane lineup most of the best players of each race (only Flash, Larva and Shine missing), 8 out of 11 ASL winners as well as players from the past and a completely new guy.

Most importantly, my boy Leta made it, with Wraiths no less.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
July 30 2023 00:12 GMT
#136
Wowow I was out of touch and didn't follow, this season looks wild even without our best terran comrades. Rain, EffOrt, Stork, Killer, Free, Leta and especially Sea!!! - I missed these guys. And very nice seeing JD competing.
sunbeams are never made like me...
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
July 30 2023 01:25 GMT
#137
rain is back?

with a little bracket luck (if he can avoid super defensive macro terran like light) i wonder if he could win ASL... or has he been playing too much LoL and other games?

maybe that world cup sc match where rain beat mini in the ace match was foreshadowing?

i need snow to take out light and then lose to rain, pls!
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1112 Posts
July 30 2023 05:37 GMT
#138
On July 29 2023 23:34 RJBTV wrote:
The line-up is reminiscent of the early ASL seasons. Groups were awesome overall. Effort's group was criminally understacked though.

Ivory, Leta, Calm and Sea seem to be the weakest four players based on online performance over the past year. Actually got nothing to base Ivory's online performance on because he's that much of an unexpected "low tier" qualifier that I can't find any data anywhere...

Ample, Free, Killer seem to be the next in line skill wise followed by Stork, Mong, Sharp and Shuttle. After that most players are all very close in skill to each other until you get to Snow who has been extremely dominant in online play. But Online is different from on stage. At this point in time Snow seems to be favored along with Light and Soma, Maybe HerO. But as last season showed anything can happen.


You will be surprised to see how Leta has improved over the last few months
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-30 10:16:30
July 30 2023 10:15 GMT
#139
On July 30 2023 14:37 TornadoSteve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2023 23:34 RJBTV wrote:
The line-up is reminiscent of the early ASL seasons. Groups were awesome overall. Effort's group was criminally understacked though.

Ivory, Leta, Calm and Sea seem to be the weakest four players based on online performance over the past year. Actually got nothing to base Ivory's online performance on because he's that much of an unexpected "low tier" qualifier that I can't find any data anywhere...

Ample, Free, Killer seem to be the next in line skill wise followed by Stork, Mong, Sharp and Shuttle. After that most players are all very close in skill to each other until you get to Snow who has been extremely dominant in online play. But Online is different from on stage. At this point in time Snow seems to be favored along with Light and Soma, Maybe HerO. But as last season showed anything can happen.


You will be surprised to see how Leta has improved over the last few months


I saw he has been in a large number of spon matches and K leagues. Sea and Calm have been doing a lot more too. But I still rank them there based on what I have seen their winrates vs specific levels of players be. while I think they are weakest I dont think the gap between the skill tiers I gave are remotely significant. It is a very narrow gap.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3147 Posts
July 30 2023 10:36 GMT
#140
These guys being the head of their respective SC university definitely helps getting them back to the competitive scene.

I believe Calm received ~20k usd in donation from his stream yesterday after qualifying for ASL. Mental.
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
02:00
Season 5 Americas Qualifier
CranKy Ducklings62
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft329
RuFF_SC2 166
SpeCial 129
Nina 110
ROOTCatZ 52
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 6716
Mind 253
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm113
League of Legends
JimRising 757
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox696
Other Games
summit1g10907
C9.Mang0461
Maynarde107
Trikslyr75
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick978
BasetradeTV274
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH225
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP6
• Mapu2
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki36
• RayReign 14
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo853
• Rush708
Other Games
• Scarra1574
Upcoming Events
GSL
4h 36m
Afreeca Starleague
6h 36m
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
7h 36m
RSL Revival
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Escore
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Universe Titan Cup
4 days
Rogue vs Percival
Ladder Legends
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Ladder Legends
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-20
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.