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Who do you think the final four progamers in the msl will be and why? I'll start with mine.
 sAviOr - JesusZerg is back. Nail him to a cross and he comes back faster stronger and more pissed off. I believe that sAviOr is in top form, and with all the Terrans in the tourney, he hopefully won't be crucified in Z v Z.
 iloveoov - The Cheater seems to be in top form. He's already defeated the reigning MSL champion and may be hard to stop.
 Bisu - He is the reigning MSL champion after all, and his P v T looks stronger all the time (despite his loss to Oov). I think he'll make it through.
Hwasin - He's been lurking about the power ratings for a long time and it's finally his turn to make it far in a major starleague.
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Two Words: Champion ToSsGirL
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Thanks for the serious speculation guys 
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On September 28 2007 00:48 Q(-_-Q) wrote:
Two Words: Champion ToSsGirL
ToSsGirL will play naked and win without a loss.
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Since there's no R&S thread yet:
Qualified for Ro16:
A: Iloveoov, Bisu
D: free[gm], Canata
E: sAviOr, fOrGG_V_
F: Hwasin, Inter.Mind
G: Xellos, Lomo[fOu]
Remaining groups:
B: Stork, MuJuK, Orion, Nal_rA
C: GoRush, TheManiaMST, Light, LuCifer
H: July, Sea, OversKy, Kwanro
Anyone know how the Ro16 bracket will look?
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isn't it going to be similar to last year's bracket? or are you asking what groups are going to play each other?
(hopefully, with no more wild-card spots again!)
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Ok, I was bored. 
Last season's looked like this:
A1 vs F2
H1 vs C2
D1 vs G2
E1 vs B2
B1 vs E2
G1 vs D2
C1 vs H2
F1 vs A2
(A plays F, H plays C, D plays G, E plays B)
If it's the same this season it's:
iloveoov vs Mind
H1 vs C2
free vs Lomo
sAviOr vs B2
B1 vs fOrGG
XellOs vs Canata
C1 vs H2
Hwasin vs Bisu
If that's the case, one player from each of the above pairs of games will end up in the semifinals.
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Braavos36401 Posts
oh man hwasin vs. bisu again!!!
that'd be nuts if they played in the ro16... i want a bo5!!!
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Edit: Just changed the Korean from a screenshot from this morning's games. Sorry for the pixels.
I would predict iloveoov, sAviOr, Hwasin, and Nal_rA (cause he's cool).
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CA10831 Posts
hwasin's out for bisu's blood
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Voting for Bisu,Savior,Stork,iloveoov.
Hoping for Bisu,Stork,Nal_rA,Free (Protoss shit final four yeh)
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Bisu , Canata, Free and Sea.
+ Show Spoiler + And Bruce-Lee takes his 3rd MSL !!!
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xellos light gorush bisu. gorush > light in finals. lol.
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On September 28 2007 02:21 FirstBorn wrote:Bisu , Canata, Free and Sea. + Show Spoiler + And Bruce-Lee takes his 3rd MSL !!!
You seriously think Free is gonna beat Savior? Did you see the WCG? or Savior's ZvP record against anyone not named Bisu?
oov, savior, hwasin, and stork.
oov is looking hot, stork has an easy road to the final 4, I have a feeling hwasin will beat bisu and savior is savior
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Screw the final four, all i know is SAVIOR SHALL AVENGE HIS MSL TITLE BY EZ BUTTONING BISU
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The final four for sure has to be: Hwasin, Savior, Stork, and Bisu.
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On September 28 2007 04:03 vstar wrote:
The final four for sure has to be: Hwasin, Savior, Stork, and Bisu.
That is impossible, given the current brackets.
Personally, I think it will be:
GoRush, Savior, Bisu, Stork.
Yeah, I know, this results it 2 mirror matchup semifinals. =[
Edit: Also, it looks like Savior has a really easy trip to the finals. He either has a winning record against everyone on his side of the bracket, or he completely outclasses them.
Bisu, on the other hand, looks like he might have his hands full.
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wtf
Bisu and Hwasin in ro16
one of the favorites to win it all will leave so early =[
My bet is Bisu, I just can´t see him losing a bo5
And with these brackets it´s very possible a final between Savior and Bisu again =]
that would kick ass
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I guess my prediction of Bisu + Hwasin in the semis fails 
In that case I have to say gooooo Bisu (because Terran sucks).
New prediction - Oov, Savior, Bisu, and B1 (either Ra or Stork).
Is it just be or is the lower left side of the bracket looking really easy? Canata and Xellos are both competent but nothing special, and Forgg isn't super impressive. I think whoever wins the B group has a royal (read: easy) road to the semis.
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Group 1 winner Oov
Oov > mind
July > Gorush
Oov > July (in a close one)
Group 2 winner Bisu
hwasin < Bisu (unless he is very creative)
light < Kwanro
Bisu > Kwanro
Group 3 winner Stork
Xellos > Canata
Stork > forgg
Stork >Xellos
Group 4 Winner Savior
Free >>> lomo
Savior > Nal_ra
Savior >>> Free
Group 1 v 4 Oov v Savior
Savior > Oov
Group 2 v 3
Stork v Bisu
Stork > Bisu (barely in a classic matchup)
Final Savior v Stork
Savior takes it.
Savior is playing very well. I definitely expect him in the final 4. Kwanro might pull an upset. Oov could easily lose to July.
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The only game of Bisu vs Savior that didn't look like bisu raping him (he still won though) I've seen was on peaks of baekadu. But, I think with the current MSL maps the games would be that good. Especially since Katrina is so good for bisu's style.
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I think a lot of you are underestimating HwaSin (again). I think he may actually beat Bisu this time around. (He got sooo close last time)
So my Final 4
HwaSin
iloveoov
savior
Stork
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I like how everybody assumes Stork is going to win group B. I hope Ra does ;/
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On September 28 2007 01:34 SonuvBob wrote:Ok, I was bored. Last season's looked like this: A1 vs F2 H1 vs C2 D1 vs G2 E1 vs B2 B1 vs E2 G1 vs D2 C1 vs H2 F1 vs A2 (A plays F, H plays C, D plays G, E plays B) If it's the same this season it's: iloveoov vs MindH1 vs C2 free vs LomosAviOr vs B2 B1 vs fOrGGXellOs vs CanataC1 vs H2 Hwasin vs BisuIf that's the case, one player from each of the above pairs of games will end up in the semifinals.
only four people can go to semifinal
one player from each pair goes to quarterfinal
edit: hold on are they using a different setup this time around?
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Sighhh Ra is gonna play Savior at RO16 I can feel it.
So many terrans tho: [
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On September 28 2007 08:06 GeneralStan wrote:
I like how everybody assumes Stork is going to win group B. I hope Ra does ;/
rA > stork? lol no way
not right now. he has been playing average at best. ffs he lost to oversky in proleague o_O
stork has been playing some solid games in the last year. not much you can say about rA in the last year
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United States10774 Posts
hwasin for OSL + MSL title
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HonestTea
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Except Hwasin has a good chance at beating Bisu so
Sea vs sAviOr (great game!)
Hwasin/Bisu vs Stork (either one would be a great game.)
Looks like it could potentially be an awesome MSL.
Other than those guys the other players I think stand the best chance of making the final four would probably be
1. July
2. iloveoov
3. Light
4. GoRush
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Oov > Sea
and stranger things have happened than Ra beating Stork
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On September 28 2007 08:07 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2007 01:34 SonuvBob wrote:Ok, I was bored. Last season's looked like this: A1 vs F2 H1 vs C2 D1 vs G2 E1 vs B2 B1 vs E2 G1 vs D2 C1 vs H2 F1 vs A2 (A plays F, H plays C, D plays G, E plays B) If it's the same this season it's: iloveoov vs MindH1 vs C2 free vs LomosAviOr vs B2 B1 vs fOrGGXellOs vs CanataC1 vs H2 Hwasin vs BisuIf that's the case, one player from each of the above pairs of games will end up in the semifinals. only four people can go to semifinal one player from each pair goes to quarterfinal edit: hold on are they using a different setup this time around?
Reread what I said.
And fix your mic.
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I think Diggity's breakdown is pretty astute..
I think Hwasin has a chance of beating Bisu, but even if he does, Stork > Hwasin instead of Stork > Bisu.
I reeeeeeally want to see Stork v Bisu though at some point, preferably in the final four, although that would entail Stork beating sAviOr, which is a long shot.
Oov and sAviOr both seem to be back in form, which is exciting, but the groups we have left are a bit of a wild card. Sea or July or even OversKy might pull something out... although I think July is the only one with a chance against Oov, because Sea tends to crack under Starleague pressure.
Anyways..
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On September 28 2007 15:27 f10esqftw wrote:I think Diggity's breakdown is pretty astute.. I think Hwasin has a chance of beating Bisu, but even if he does, Stork > Hwasin instead of Stork > Bisu. I reeeeeeally want to see Stork v Bisu though at some point, preferably in the final four, although that would entail Stork beating sAviOr, which is a long shot. Oov and sAviOr both seem to be back in form, which is exciting, but the groups we have left are a bit of a wild card. Sea or July or even OversKy might pull something out... although I think July is the only one with a chance against Oov, because Sea tends to crack under Starleague pressure. Anyways..
it's not a matter of cracking under pressure. Sea doesn't get unnerved, don't you remember the proleague final with absolutely everything on the line? He was sent out for ace and he dominated.
Sea has run into a lair-focused management zerg with stellar muta micro in every league he's competed in, that's what's held him back. He struggles against this style of zerg.
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On September 28 2007 12:11 GeneralStan wrote:Oov > Sea and stranger things have happened than Ra beating Stork
damn right, oov will eat sea for breakfast.
nevermind the top 4 hwasin will win!
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On September 28 2007 07:51 IaniAniaN wrote:
The only game of Bisu vs Savior that didn't look like bisu raping him (he still won though) I've seen was on peaks of baekadu. But, I think with the current MSL maps the games would be that good. Especially since Katrina is so good for bisu's style.
Savior won Bisu in long cool game at Hitchhiker at Blizzard invitational
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Bisu vs Hwasin is going to be very interesting, I wouldn't be surprised if Bisu handles the pressure better to win, but Hwasin will push him to the limits (and it's by no means an upset should he win. That game's balanced on a knife edge). Savior's dominance still extends to his ZvP, although someone strong at TvZ could take him out should he get to the Ro4, probably not before then however. OOv has showed some excellent TvT of Late, so that mystifies things even more.
I wouldn't be surprised however, if we see a Sea/Savior/Bisu/Stork Ro4, assuming Stork comes first in his group.
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I'm so excited about the MSL now
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The question is can oov get past Sea
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Plus they're both going for the macro game probably and in that oov has no equal, but still oov's tvt has been a bit shakey lately. (his win over nada doesn't say anything, nada will always be his bitch). First let us just see how far both will come :D
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Kang Min and Tae Min ftw.
Ra vs GoRush finals would truly be great.
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bisuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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Would love to see...
Savior vs iloveoov
Bisu vs JulyZerg
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On September 28 2007 03:23 ahole-surprise wrote:You seriously think Free is gonna beat Savior? Did you see the WCG? or Savior's ZvP record against anyone not named Bisu? oov, savior, hwasin, and stork. oov is looking hot, stork has an easy road to the final 4, I have a feeling hwasin will beat bisu and savior is savior
Give Free some more love. yes, savior CRUSHED him at the wcg, and yes i know savior's zvp record, but i like free more than his stats.
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Free
Bisu
iloveoov
July
Free will win this MSL. It's the rise of Hanbit this season.
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