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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
December 28 2021 21:54 GMT
#41
I don't have time to watch his stream but how is he performing so far? Glad to see him giving it another go
Free Palestine
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
December 28 2021 22:41 GMT
#42
he got rekt like 1-10 today vs Light, Rush, Royal, ..
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
December 28 2021 22:51 GMT
#43
Anyone know the situation with his wrist? I recall it was pretty bad when he left for military and it's probably gonna affect his decision to focus on either competing or streaming content.
Mine gas, build tanks.
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1467 Posts
December 28 2021 23:47 GMT
#44
On December 24 2021 11:38 staatbauhaus wrote:
Like it or not the female college content gave second wind to BW. Just a few months ago, it was scary seeing BW have only like 7~8k viewers during primetime while the league category was doing 90k. During those low viewership months, some of the pros were getting ready to retire from streaming because they were making no money to support themselves.

Also I think it's kinda cool how melee only pros like Rush stated female players and popular male streamers from other categories, should be included in Afreeca's destruction match as it would bring more entertainment to the BW scene.

Cool thing #2 is how Afreeca PD's were discussing the possibility of making "dugouts" for the various colleges at the new live studio after seeing 100k + viewers in the latest school vs school match.


heres video covering this

iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1660 Posts
December 29 2021 08:51 GMT
#45
On December 29 2021 07:41 HaN- wrote:
he got rekt like 1-10 today vs Light, Rush, Royal, ..


It comes with no surprise after a long period of inactivity, zvt... He did perform much better vs protoss though.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
rararara
Profile Joined March 2021
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-29 10:33:03
December 29 2021 10:32 GMT
#46
I saw some of those games and it's amazing to see from JDs perspective how good the current top pros are.

JD is not in top form yet, but he plays damn well and his APM is still at 400 fwiw.

Haven't really noticed from other FPVODs how tiny decisions snowball and overall gameplay/understanding can make the outcome so clear. Insane at what level these guys are playing.
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
March 10 2022 21:36 GMT
#47
I got bored. Necro time.

On December 25 2021 06:35 oxKnu wrote:
^^ Are you seriously trying to exercise your garbage debating skills on something that was not even close to being interpreted as that kind of a post? I hope you get a clue..

Yep. I mean, you posted publicly. If you didn't want a response, then maybe you shouldn't have fucking posted in the first place. What are you implying? That I shouldn't take what you posted seriously? So you are admitting you are a troll?


My post was pretty straight forward and it simply meant if an organizer like Afreeca would decide to change their format for ASL so that they accommodate these new streamers into the bracket that would be a serious wtf move for the vast majority of the current viewerbase. Again, a pretty obvious statement.

Very low chance that this will ever happen, but it's the perfect counterpoint to highlight that the two audience don't intersect as much as some people would like to think.

Other than that...it's a free world, anyone can do whatever the hell they want with their streams and whatnot.

Straightforward, you say?

This is your original post, verbatim (I'm laughing reading this again):
Yeah, right.

If any of those new "college" sc girls starts infiltrating into something like ASL, people will stop watching. There's a reason LoL has 100K viewers daily. Half of them are 11 year olds.

BW was dying because all of the top players are either not playing anymore or retired.

Put Flash vs Jaedong tomorrow in a Bo5 and watch cumulative amount of 50K people show up out of nowhere.

I am someone with "garbage" debating skills and a complete dumbass. I want clarification. I direct you to the second paragraph. Again, I have taken NOTHING out of context. There seems to be an argument being made here, but even as a literate person I just can't figure out what the fuck it is. I am not even going to address the rest of the post or how ridiculous any of its contentions are. But let's try to follow this. You say that "college" "sc girls" "infiltrating" ASL (your words) will lead to people not watching. Then you follow this up with a sentence up about this is the reason "LoL" (your example) has 100000 viewers. There is literally an argument, or a statement, or some sort of logic missing between these two things that would lead one idea to another. Or are you admitting now that these two things have NOTHING to do with each other? Which is it? Please clarify.

If you're going to complain about my garbage debating skills, the least you could do for small-minded me is to present a clear argument.

Good day. See you all in another 3 months.

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