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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-31 09:28:44
July 31 2021 09:28 GMT
#21
first two qualifiers: (P)Ss1nz, CleanGirlLE (김석현)
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
July 31 2021 10:11 GMT
#22
On July 22 2021 07:44 QOGQOG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2021 14:12 ggsimida wrote:
On July 20 2021 13:34 QOGQOG wrote:
On July 19 2021 23:42 ggsimida wrote:
>No ACS Winners / Runner-ups

the most amazing restriction imo, so winner/runnerups from the very first edition of acs in 2018 til now can't play in it anymore lol?

I'm not sure I understand the objection here—the whole point is to give exposure and a better chance at ASL to some lesser known players.


because you are not recognizing the merit of top amateurs and eventually just be giving handouts to lower tier amateurs. would care about a tourney where you are watching ever decreasing tiers of players with every edition?

There are always up and coming players. There have to be if the game is going to survive.

You're right that someone like Soma could probably show up with his "top amateur" status and crush this tournament again and again. But that would be a tournament people would stop watching and a tournament that didn't have any real point. They have to restrict competitors somehow, and this seems totally reasonable.

If Afreeca find themselves really scraping the bottom of the barrel I'm sure they'll change eligibility, but there's no real sign of that so far.


and it looks like its starting to.
i rather see a noname try to beat the likes of soma/scan than watch noname1 beat noname2. this is supposed to be a premier amateur competition, but its actually a handout event
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-01 06:11:56
August 01 2021 05:54 GMT
#23
On July 31 2021 19:11 ggsimida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2021 07:44 QOGQOG wrote:
On July 20 2021 14:12 ggsimida wrote:
On July 20 2021 13:34 QOGQOG wrote:
On July 19 2021 23:42 ggsimida wrote:
>No ACS Winners / Runner-ups

the most amazing restriction imo, so winner/runnerups from the very first edition of acs in 2018 til now can't play in it anymore lol?

I'm not sure I understand the objection here—the whole point is to give exposure and a better chance at ASL to some lesser known players.


because you are not recognizing the merit of top amateurs and eventually just be giving handouts to lower tier amateurs. would care about a tourney where you are watching ever decreasing tiers of players with every edition?

There are always up and coming players. There have to be if the game is going to survive.

You're right that someone like Soma could probably show up with his "top amateur" status and crush this tournament again and again. But that would be a tournament people would stop watching and a tournament that didn't have any real point. They have to restrict competitors somehow, and this seems totally reasonable.

If Afreeca find themselves really scraping the bottom of the barrel I'm sure they'll change eligibility, but there's no real sign of that so far.


and it looks like its starting to.
i rather see a noname try to beat the likes of soma/scan than watch noname1 beat noname2. this is supposed to be a premier amateur competition, but its actually a handout event

It's an amateur competition. You aren't going to see a bunch of big name players. Because it's for amateurs. Who are not necessarily names you recognize. Since that's literally the point of the tournament. The tournament for amateurs. Not sure why this is so difficult to understand.

Also, as amateurs go, Ss1nz is not a noname. He's been in KCM Challenge and has qualified for multiple ASLs. I'm not familiar with the other person who has qualified, but that, again, is the point of the tournament.

What you would rather watch isn't what Afreeca wants to make. The tournament is doing what it's meant to.
AncientSion
Profile Joined April 2017
72 Posts
August 01 2021 09:39 GMT
#24
whats the LINK to the stream yo
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
August 01 2021 10:20 GMT
#25
last two qualifiers: (T)hani, (P)Mighty
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andertalets77
Profile Joined February 2019
143 Posts
August 02 2021 16:43 GMT
#26
On August 01 2021 19:20 GTR wrote:
last two qualifiers: (T)hani, (P)Mighty


Hani will play against Mighty??
Purressure
Profile Joined July 2021
106 Posts
August 02 2021 16:58 GMT
#27
On August 01 2021 19:20 GTR wrote:
last two qualifiers: (T)hani, (P)Mighty


Mighty rings a bell, or is this a different one?
rararara
Profile Joined March 2021
115 Posts
August 06 2021 13:07 GMT
#28
Any background infos on Hani and CleanGirlLE?
Never heard of them.
FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
August 06 2021 21:18 GMT
#29
hani played already in last ASL and in some online stuff like kcm challenge.
For CleanGirlLE (now changed their name to Dear) i only now that they had good results in online clan leagues that often feature high level amateurs and pros
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
August 08 2021 05:49 GMT
#30
ACS starts in 10 minute. 15:00 KST
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
RuhZo
Profile Joined November 2020
9 Posts
August 08 2021 07:34 GMT
#31
Really cool game in the ro4 TvP series in game 2 on Ascension. The improvisation from both players was enjoyable to watch.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
August 08 2021 08:29 GMT
#32
finals vod:

https://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/76111133

winner:
+ Show Spoiler +
(T)hani
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4091 Posts
August 08 2021 09:18 GMT
#33
Thanks for posting! + Show Spoiler +
The winner is wrong though, it should be soso (T). hani (P) was eliminated before the final match.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
August 08 2021 09:20 GMT
#34
On August 08 2021 18:18 Magic Powers wrote:
Thanks for posting! + Show Spoiler +
The winner is wrong though, it should be soso (T). hani (P) was eliminated before the final match.


Hani(T) and Soso(T) are the same person
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4091 Posts
August 08 2021 10:32 GMT
#35
Ah...
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
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