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Soma's ZvT & ZvP Korean Guide For Sale ($10)

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ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
797 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-13 05:33:47
July 12 2021 21:14 GMT
#1
I have good news for any foreign Zerg players!

The Korean Zerg pro-gamer Soma is selling a ZvT guide for $10 right now. A ZvP guide will be released in a week's time (price will be $10 as well).

Both offers are mentioned in the poster below.

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The guides are in Korean unfortunately, but foreigners may still be interested in purchasing them and extracting as much information and advice as they possibly can. You may also want to ask questions about the guide in this thread and perhaps a Korean speaker who is familiar with the guide's contents will be so kind as to provide clarification for you. But I would not expect this.

Here's a link to where the above poster can be found

Below are some questions from prospective Korean buyers and Soma's answers to them (in English as translated by Google) from the YouTube link above:

Question: "I bought it about 2 months ago, is it the latest update???"

Soma: yes, yes

Question: "Did you make the basic build [vs Terran] with 2 hats instead of 3 hats??"

Soma: I made a build that is halfway between 2 hats and 3 hats as a base.

Question: "How many ladder scores do I need to have in order to understand and apply the course content?"

Soma: If you want to learn the concept and implement it by hand, you need to be at least 1500~1600.

If you are interested in this offer, Stryker, who is a Korean American Zerg player and friends with Soma, has graciously volunteered to act as an intermediary by helping foreigners to purchase one or both guides.

If you are interested in purchasing one or both guides, then please clearly state that you are interested and leave your discord ID or another contact detail in your comment (e.g., email address or repeat your TL user name and say you wish to be contacted via TL mail) for Stryker to reach out to you.

He will provide you with Soma's paypal address (which cannot be made public) and once you send the payment to Soma's paypal, you can then let Stryker know that you did, and Stryker will then confirm with Soma that the payment was received by Soma, and then Stryker will forward a link to you to successfully download the guide pack(s) which are in Korean.

I hope that makes sense.

For the sake of supporting Soma, if you purchase one or both guides, please do not share either of them freely with anyone.

If there is sufficient interest among foreigners in purchasing the guide(s), Soma may consider providing English subtitles in the future but this will depend if there is a lot of interest among foreigners.

Also, Stryker has kindly volunteered to try to provide a very general summary of the guide's contents:

Stryker: "The new ZvT lectures (The Final Lecture as he calls them) revolve around a new way to open 2 hatch muta: 12h 12p 12g, then starting Lair at 3:02, which gives you an extra larva when Lair finishes.
The earlier drones give you enough money to get Lair, then ling speed, then 3rd hat in main at around 3:45.
A slightly less economic version of this build is known as 2.5 hatch.
But in the past, it had to be done without ling speed because of the less economic 12h 11p 10g.
So this variation gives you access to better econ and more larva much earlier than regular 2h, but also gives you ling speed as opposed to the previous 2.5h. The downsides versus regular 2h are a slightly later pool, slightly later spire, and a later third gas.
His vids then go into how to play vs 8 rax, 2 rax acad, +1 ebay, mech, 111, etc."

Thanks for reading and I hope I didn't violate any rules by making this post or cause any controversy with it.
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Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
July 12 2021 23:27 GMT
#2
very cool
BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic627 Posts
July 13 2021 04:00 GMT
#3
thank very interesting in deed for zerg, i wish i can get something like that with terran.
How may help u?
GraiL
Profile Joined September 2020
8 Posts
July 13 2021 04:07 GMT
#4
I'm interested! Discord: Grail#0426
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10014 Posts
July 13 2021 04:20 GMT
#5
any gosu P tutorials? :[
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1476 Posts
July 13 2021 05:16 GMT
#6
On July 13 2021 13:20 TT1 wrote:
any gosu P tutorials? :[


ygosu
Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada967 Posts
July 13 2021 13:19 GMT
#7
how much would it cost to have it translated into english?
Team[AoV]
Dada_
Profile Joined November 2009
Netherlands26 Posts
July 13 2021 13:48 GMT
#8
I'm interested! You can contact me via Discord: @dada78641#0789.
Zeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerglings
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
July 13 2021 14:12 GMT
#9
On July 13 2021 22:19 Lightswarm wrote:
how much would it cost to have it translated into english?


It's unclear, but Soma said he'll see how much interest there is and if there's a lot he'll try to arrange a translation.
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
psyCrowe
Profile Joined December 2007
Scotland197 Posts
July 13 2021 19:02 GMT
#10
Yeah I'd pay for a guide if it was translated
oG)Reaver-
Profile Joined September 2019
12 Posts
July 13 2021 22:24 GMT
#11
Hi! interested! Discord oG)Reaver#0880. waiting news!
Zealgoon
Profile Joined January 2013
China187 Posts
July 13 2021 23:37 GMT
#12
I'd be interested but only if there's a translation. Not understanding Soma's talk on the nuances basically eliminates the point of the guide.
krocan.cz
Profile Joined June 2015
58 Posts
July 14 2021 08:11 GMT
#13
I would pay if it was translated
damnitjun
Profile Joined October 2020
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-14 21:59:06
July 14 2021 21:58 GMT
#14
interested discord @ Jun#5770
rararara
Profile Joined March 2021
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-15 20:49:05
July 15 2021 20:48 GMT
#15
this sounds extremely good. Soma is top top.

are there any more infos what format it is?
is it oriented more towards beginners/intermediate/advanced players?
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
July 15 2021 23:47 GMT
#16
On July 16 2021 05:48 rararara wrote:
this sounds extremely good. Soma is top top.

are there any more infos what format it is?
is it oriented more towards beginners/intermediate/advanced players?


There are 21 videos covering various scenarios in ZvT, some where he talks, some where it's just an FPVOD. Among those, there are three introductory videos covering the basics.

There are also replays corresponding to the scenarios covered in the videos.

I would say it's geared more towards intermediate/advanced players.
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile163 Posts
July 16 2021 00:04 GMT
#17
I'm also interested in buying it but ideally it should be translated.
BeSt / Bisu ftw!!
Zealgoon
Profile Joined January 2013
China187 Posts
July 17 2021 01:41 GMT
#18
On July 16 2021 08:47 StRyKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2021 05:48 rararara wrote:
this sounds extremely good. Soma is top top.

are there any more infos what format it is?
is it oriented more towards beginners/intermediate/advanced players?


There are 21 videos covering various scenarios in ZvT, some where he talks, some where it's just an FPVOD. Among those, there are three introductory videos covering the basics.

There are also replays corresponding to the scenarios covered in the videos.

I would say it's geared more towards intermediate/advanced players.

Does it at least have Korean subtititles? I have some basic undetstanding of Korean and might be able to understand subtitles with machine translation, but if there's no subtitles at all this is definitely a no-go for me.
krocan.cz
Profile Joined June 2015
58 Posts
July 17 2021 10:39 GMT
#19
interested

discord: krocan#9502
Return
Profile Joined June 2005
Ivory Coast857 Posts
July 17 2021 15:17 GMT
#20
On July 17 2021 10:41 Zealgoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2021 08:47 StRyKeR wrote:
On July 16 2021 05:48 rararara wrote:
this sounds extremely good. Soma is top top.

are there any more infos what format it is?
is it oriented more towards beginners/intermediate/advanced players?


There are 21 videos covering various scenarios in ZvT, some where he talks, some where it's just an FPVOD. Among those, there are three introductory videos covering the basics.

There are also replays corresponding to the scenarios covered in the videos.

I would say it's geared more towards intermediate/advanced players.

Does it at least have Korean subtititles? I have some basic undetstanding of Korean and might be able to understand subtitles with machine translation, but if there's no subtitles at all this is definitely a no-go for me.


theres no subtitles at all but a lot of the material is understandable even without knowing korean(sure a lot of stuff also flies over the head cause of not understanding but its a lot of good knowledge for $10/$20)

And also if theres a lot of interest from the foreign community who knows what will be the next step from soma? I kinda bought em mainly to support and show foreign community is interested in this type of content, but the contents of the content is great too
Diiiscoo-oh, thats where the happy people go!
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