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hatcherycakesc
Profile Joined November 2020
6 Posts
March 03 2021 13:19 GMT
#221
Honestly, what a loss. This is really sad. While I only saw the 10th ASL live it really gave a lasting memory. Now as I go back and watch all the others it makes me sad to think that Artosis and Tasteless won't be casting again. I understand that the English cast was not profitable for Afreeca but it hurts nonetheless. I am really heartbroken right now but I hope sometime in the near future the top pros will be covered in English by Tastosis again.
skrk chqh
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-03 13:37:31
March 03 2021 13:35 GMT
#222
Paying two full time casters probably wasn't worth it financially. I would have prefered another option such as pay per view or something.
quaristice
Profile Joined February 2021
136 Posts
March 03 2021 13:37 GMT
#223
On March 03 2021 11:11 AfreecaTVGlobal wrote:
Communities and English casters are still allowed, and encouraged, to broadcast the ASL to their own fans through our clean feed on their AfreecaTV Channels.
If you are interested, please contact us here!


is the only way to get the clean feed to contact them through that form or is it somewhere streamed on their site
bracala
Profile Joined August 2019
95 Posts
March 03 2021 13:49 GMT
#224
If i understand correctly for example Tastosis still can cast ASL but not LIVE and they can cast VODs only on AfreecaTV?
That should not be a problem,they can watch and cast games just after live is finish. If thats possible they can open channel for donation and set whats the minimum amount of money to do that. Im sure we can earn more money then they would ask for that!
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-03 13:51:02
March 03 2021 13:50 GMT
#225
Nooooooooooooooooo
I absolutely love Tastosis! They manage to make SC something that I can laugh while watching

On March 03 2021 22:49 bracala wrote:
If i understand correctly for example Tastosis still can cast ASL but not LIVE and they can cast VODs only on AfreecaTV?
That should not be a problem,they can watch and cast games just after live is finish. If thats possible they can open channel for donation and set whats the minimum amount of money to do that. Im sure we can earn more money then they would ask for that!

That actually sounds like a great idea!
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machinus
Profile Joined January 2010
United States292 Posts
March 03 2021 13:59 GMT
#226
On March 03 2021 11:11 AfreecaTVGlobal wrote:
Dear Fans,

It’s unfortunate for us today to announce that the ASL will no longer be supported in English.

It has been the most exciting adventure for us to share the ASL with fans all over the world.
We thank you for all of your love and support over the years.

The ASL will continue and can be watched at afreecatv.com/afstar1.

Communities and English casters are still allowed, and encouraged, to broadcast the ASL to their own fans through our clean feed on their AfreecaTV Channels.
If you are interested, please contact us here!

Thank you,
AfreecaTV


I'd much rather have them on BW than on "SC2."

They are going to stream ASL anyway...
EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
March 03 2021 14:01 GMT
#227
This is so sad, I thought their viewership (at least in terms of youtube numbers) were pretty good, every vod is over 100k views and the last season was their best. Tastosis is such a gigantic part of introducing this beautiful game to new players and keeping veterans entertained with high level commentary alike.
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Sorusaba
Profile Joined October 2017
310 Posts
March 03 2021 14:04 GMT
#228
I hate this a lot.
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1027 Posts
March 03 2021 14:05 GMT
#229
This is a very sad day, I've been watching Tasteless cast since 2006 and to be fair while I did prefer Korean commentators over English ones back in the day, Tastosis are on another level and it has been so much fun watching them cast the ASL.

I'm still grateful for AfreecaTV running the ASL despite it probably isn't that profitable and for even allowing English casts for 10 seasons, I will continue to watch ASL until its end (which might not be far away). I guess now would be a perfect time for SC3.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
March 03 2021 14:08 GMT
#230
On March 03 2021 19:08 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2021 17:53 kogeT wrote:
Would be amazing to understand a wider context behind that decision, e.g is it just the cost of hiring them, or no revenue from ads running on foreign stream, or...? AfreecaTV, please give us some insights, I am sure that foreigners scene can fix that easily.

If Tastosis salary expectations were just to high from afreecas pov, they would have hired somebody different, which they didnt.

This doesn't have to be true, it does cost quite a bit to hire new people so it's not like it can't be just a financial decision.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12043 Posts
March 03 2021 14:08 GMT
#231
On March 03 2021 22:49 bracala wrote:
If i understand correctly for example Tastosis still can cast ASL but not LIVE and they can cast VODs only on AfreecaTV?
That should not be a problem,they can watch and cast games just after live is finish. If thats possible they can open channel for donation and set whats the minimum amount of money to do that. Im sure we can earn more money then they would ask for that!


They can't cast on Afreeca because they're twitch partners. Same reason Afreeca big streamers can't stream on Twitch.

The streaming industry is really shitty like that.
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bracala
Profile Joined August 2019
95 Posts
March 03 2021 14:11 GMT
#232
On March 03 2021 23:08 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2021 22:49 bracala wrote:
If i understand correctly for example Tastosis still can cast ASL but not LIVE and they can cast VODs only on AfreecaTV?
That should not be a problem,they can watch and cast games just after live is finish. If thats possible they can open channel for donation and set whats the minimum amount of money to do that. Im sure we can earn more money then they would ask for that!


They can't cast on Afreeca because they're twitch partners. Same reason Afreeca big streamers can't stream on Twitch.

The streaming industry is really shitty like that.



Hmm but i see more and more SC players stream on afreeca and twitch at the same time?
Maybe they will allow them to stream or upload on youtube i dont know. I really hope something will happen and we will enjoy in ASL again with Tastosis!
The Intrepid
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada205 Posts
March 03 2021 14:17 GMT
#233
If Afreeca guys can't monetize 100k views per VOD on Youtube, that means they are morons. Then they come up with the brilliant solution, don't do Youtube anymore (and lose 100k views/VOD). As I said, morons ...
Ontological imperative holds that my losses occurred only in imagination.
Crateros
Profile Joined February 2021
19 Posts
March 03 2021 14:17 GMT
#234
--- Nuked ---
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4433 Posts
March 03 2021 14:18 GMT
#235
Whenever I watched the streams the ads were in Korean, which English speakers wouldn't understand or be interested in the products.

I'd like to thank them for providing English commentators for so long as it seemed a goodwill gesture to the foreign community rather than a business decision to make money from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
March 03 2021 14:30 GMT
#236
Just brutal. The production, gameplay, and commentary quality were all incredible and continuing to improve. This really sucks.
Moderator
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
March 03 2021 14:41 GMT
#237
We just need to get as much starcraft off afreeca as possible, if we had all of the korean players on twitch broodwar would be such a bigger game. But because it's almost impossible to access the good content outside of korea nobody will ever find out. Afreeca has probably done more to hold back the popularity of broodwar than anyone else (besides blizzard ofc).
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
Tribune
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia60 Posts
March 03 2021 14:50 GMT
#238
This is so upsetting. Literally the only esports I watch is those two casting ASL...

Is there a chance they would stream/cast it on Afreeca? If it was on twitch surely they would make their old Afreeca salaries back in donations and subs! Dunno about on Afreeca though, with how unapproachable it is for English speakers.
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1894 Posts
March 03 2021 14:51 GMT
#239
On March 03 2021 23:08 Qikz wrote:
The streaming industry is really shitty like that.
Don't blame the whole industry, bro.
Facebook does not enforce exclusivity,
Youtube does not enforce exclusivity,
Goodgame does not enforce exclusivity,
Wasd does not enforce exclusivity.

Only Twitch does. For the tournaments they paid no single cent.
patyrykin.net
WrexSC2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States51 Posts
March 03 2021 14:54 GMT
#240
I too just logged into my account for the first time in years just so express my disappointment for this announcement.

I hope this isn't yet another sign that Starcraft eSports will soon cease to exist.
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